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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 04 2018 05:10 GMT
#121
I guess "siege the high ground really effectively" is how TL looks to do this. NP, Veno & UL all siege well.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 04 2018 05:12 GMT
#122
VP cores are pretty useless against Liquid's heroes in engagements at this point. Liquid doesn't have much catch but they don't need it if VP walks into them
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
April 04 2018 05:12 GMT
#123
vp are playing passive as shit
this is a quote
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
April 04 2018 05:13 GMT
#124
Pretty weird how VP isn't respecting Liquid's strategy. It feels like they're playing way too passive and expecting to win the same way they did against VGJ.T.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 04 2018 05:13 GMT
#125
On April 04 2018 14:12 goody153 wrote:
vp are playing passive as shit


TL is also borrowing, with their own flare, from TNC's approach.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 04 2018 05:15 GMT
#126
Liquid's lineup can win VP's in late game as long as they choke their farm out and be ahead in items. They would also try to take fights that they outnumber VP, with the help of furion's map control.

Liquid's furion playstyle didn't change much from TI7 no matter who is playing him.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
April 04 2018 05:16 GMT
#127
i see this kind of shit from eg or newbee where they're content in just giving the map control but this is not how VP plays

i have not seen them play so complacent like this
this is a quote
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 04 2018 05:16 GMT
#128
People sleep on how well Underlord allows you to siege the enemy's base.
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
April 04 2018 05:16 GMT
#129
well this game is over now
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 04 2018 05:16 GMT
#130
VP has an incredibly hard time killing anyone from TL. The Chen is completely useless and Liquid has great tools to scout the SK initiation so VP doesn't get any sort of combo off
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-04 05:18:47
April 04 2018 05:17 GMT
#131
Honestly it feels like VP threw away this game. They made no offensive moves and Rodjer dicked around on bottom lane farming his Aghs. He should've bought Pipe instead.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
April 04 2018 05:17 GMT
#132
holy shit VP's complacency might actually lead them to lower bracket

i think they're gonna get cheese'd draft next game
this is a quote
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4553 Posts
April 04 2018 05:17 GMT
#133
22mins and 2 lanes of rax WOWOWOW
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-04 05:18:49
April 04 2018 05:18 GMT
#134
On April 04 2018 14:17 LennX wrote:
22mins and 2 lanes of rax WOWOWOW

i honestly would've "WOW'd" if VP played like VP

they played like a pub player who just work up and just queued then played like rtz just farmed until they lose the entire map
this is a quote
bLzPostman
Profile Joined September 2011
New Zealand82 Posts
April 04 2018 05:18 GMT
#135
I think this is simply Liquid has played against VP so much that when they play their cookie-cutter line up they know how to play against it. Other teams just do not have this experience yet.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
April 04 2018 05:19 GMT
#136
On April 04 2018 14:18 bLzPostman wrote:
I think this is simply Liquid has played against VP so much that when they play their cookie-cutter line up they know how to play against it. Other teams just do not have this experience yet.


As a rebuttal, Liquid's draft is very linear and easy to see coming. Why VP didn't ban Underlord in the second phase is a mystery.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-04 05:22:02
April 04 2018 05:20 GMT
#137
On April 04 2018 14:18 bLzPostman wrote:
I think this is simply Liquid has played against VP so much that when they play their cookie-cutter line up they know how to play against it. Other teams just do not have this experience yet.

Nah VP played against a draft like that no problem. They really just played complacent as shit. Confident they'd outfarm and outscale liquid and just not contest against the pushing lineup
this is a quote
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 04 2018 05:21 GMT
#138
VP woke up.
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
April 04 2018 05:21 GMT
#139
VP only needs five more holds like that to come back in this game
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
April 04 2018 05:22 GMT
#140
On April 04 2018 14:20 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 14:18 bLzPostman wrote:
I think this is simply Liquid has played against VP so much that when they play their cookie-cutter line up they know how to play against it. Other teams just do not have this experience yet.

Nah VP played against a draft like that. They really just played complacent as shit. Confident they'd outfarm and outscale liquid and just not contest against the pushing lineup


I think they knew what liquid wants to do and just farmed as they should , that mid meed train cost them too much.
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