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Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
March 17 2018 13:03 GMT
#141
rofl ee tried to baserace
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
March 17 2018 13:04 GMT
#142
so now inf vs tft

wonder if those teams will feel extra pressure to put on crazy performances after this series
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
March 17 2018 13:04 GMT
#143
Lil is a class above his Navi teammates imo.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
March 17 2018 13:04 GMT
#144
On March 17 2018 21:55 Pandemona wrote:
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On March 17 2018 21:54 goody153 wrote:
On March 17 2018 21:51 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah they had buybacks since they died, they watched navi coming into base, watched them kill T4s and like Atreides says must be because they thought they would die the next fight...but to watch your base die with 12-15 sec left on respawn and buyback is just unfathomable for my little brain xD

The throne died wayy too fast.

Judging from the previous fights they probably thought navi didn't have that kind of damage but i guess hitting throne is easier than hitting heroes with millions of ways not to get hit.

But they are in their base, they can see them, they can see Lina with Daedlous + Rapier and it's a Lina, that is what is even more stupid lol. My head hurts.

Great game though take nothing away from NaVi, i was watching them hold the pushes in their base against a 32k net worth difference thinking wow nice work! But still Fnatic wtf xD

I highly doubt you've expected throne to die fast even with just rapier. Throne after all has shit ton of HP if you didn't forget

That was fnatic's mistake but i really doubt even your favorite team EG would've like panicked and dived into navi to stop them from thronening. The situation is that fnatic had alot of options and they looked like they were considering the best option aannnd navi didn't give them time to think.
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
March 17 2018 13:06 GMT
#145
Rapier won a game. HAHA.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
March 17 2018 13:09 GMT
#146
On March 17 2018 22:04 babysimba wrote:
Lil is a class above his Navi teammates imo.


Nah, Crystallize is a beast
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BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria855 Posts
March 17 2018 13:09 GMT
#147
i dont think picking so many different heroes is a good thing.
Mosoball
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland686 Posts
March 17 2018 13:11 GMT
#148
I'm so pissed right now. Closed the stream when they took megas, turns out Fnatic lost :/
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 17 2018 13:13 GMT
#149
On March 17 2018 22:11 Mosoball wrote:
I'm so pissed right now. Closed the stream when they took megas, turns out Fnatic lost :/

In dota, it's never over until the throne explodes.
super gg
Mosoball
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland686 Posts
March 17 2018 13:19 GMT
#150
On March 17 2018 22:13 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 22:11 Mosoball wrote:
I'm so pissed right now. Closed the stream when they took megas, turns out Fnatic lost :/

In dota, it's never over until the throne explodes.


Lol that win felt as deserved as Na'vi's DPC points :D Damn it!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
March 17 2018 13:21 GMT
#151
On March 17 2018 22:13 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 22:11 Mosoball wrote:
I'm so pissed right now. Closed the stream when they took megas, turns out Fnatic lost :/

In dota, it's never over until the throne explodes.

It's weird that lesson surround on players like envy, puppey when they also have in the past have made opponents think about this kind of thing lol
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 13:27:02
March 17 2018 13:24 GMT
#152
Looking at the replay it just looks like there was a lot of confusion in Fnatic's camp in terms of what to do.

Firstly, neither EE or Abed actually had to die in the engagement which led to them being dead. Pretty sure EE could have just walked away after DJ had saved him by turning him into stone, and Abed didn't pop his BKB and got stunned and died.

Then when the push came, Universe spent all his time going on AA. That would be reasonable in a teamfight, but if you intend to base race it's the most useless target. If he went with abyssal on top of Lina right away, it would have at least been very close. Abed also didn't have his BKB in his inventory when he tp'd for the race and got torrented, but avoiding that alone wouldn't have been enough.

From how safe the 3 people alive were playing, I don't think anyone in Fnatic's communications even considered NaVi having time to throne them a realistic possibility. They could have had time to make a plan for how to delay it but they didn't really do anything instead and then somewhat panicked
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
March 17 2018 14:19 GMT
#153
Abed bought a meme hammer, swapped bkb into the backpack for it. Wasted 2.5seconds casting hammer instead of right clicking throne as 6 slotted TA, then get torrented because of no bkb. I lol-ed.

The rapier just caught Fnatic off guard. Dendi first showed his rapier when he attacked tier 4s. EE and Abed were 3seconds and 6 seconds away from respawning. Probably another few seconds of Dendi rekting tier 4s before Fnatic realised what was going on. Very hard to make the correct decisions in that situation.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
March 17 2018 14:24 GMT
#154
On March 17 2018 22:24 spudde123 wrote:
Looking at the replay it just looks like there was a lot of confusion in Fnatic's camp in terms of what to do.

Firstly, neither EE or Abed actually had to die in the engagement which led to them being dead. Pretty sure EE could have just walked away after DJ had saved him by turning him into stone, and Abed didn't pop his BKB and got stunned and died.

Then when the push came, Universe spent all his time going on AA. That would be reasonable in a teamfight, but if you intend to base race it's the most useless target. If he went with abyssal on top of Lina right away, it would have at least been very close. Abed also didn't have his BKB in his inventory when he tp'd for the race and got torrented, but avoiding that alone wouldn't have been enough.

From how safe the 3 people alive were playing, I don't think anyone in Fnatic's communications even considered NaVi having time to throne them a realistic possibility. They could have had time to make a plan for how to delay it but they didn't really do anything instead and then somewhat panicked


Without the Rapier, I don't think Na'vi had the damage to do it, but because of the unknown Rapier, Na'Vi had a 15s window to win the game.

It can happen in Dota and it just did today.
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria855 Posts
March 17 2018 14:26 GMT
#155
Some subpar dota now. 1 team gonna steam some DPC points.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
March 17 2018 14:26 GMT
#156
On March 17 2018 23:19 babysimba wrote:
Abed bought a meme hammer, swapped bkb into the backpack for it. Wasted 2.5seconds casting hammer instead of right clicking throne as 6 slotted TA, then get torrented because of no bkb. I lol-ed.

The rapier just caught Fnatic off guard. Dendi first showed his rapier when he attacked tier 4s. EE and Abed were 3seconds and 6 seconds away from respawning. Probably another few seconds of Dendi rekting tier 4s before Fnatic realised what was going on. Very hard to make the correct decisions in that situation.

Yeah, but that Abed Meteor Hammer was fucking horrible decision, I don't even know how players come to conclusion that Meteor Hammer will deal more damage than 6 slotted TA... It still wouldn't be enough most likely, since Radiant throne was around 1680 HP when Na`Vi finished the game.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
March 17 2018 14:33 GMT
#157
I think it's the balancing of the talents over the last 6 months that explains why so many pro games are so close now. And why leads are so hard to maintain. We're going to be in the "win the right fight" meta for a while.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
March 17 2018 14:37 GMT
#158
This might be the "best worst" Morphling I've seen in a while.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
March 17 2018 14:38 GMT
#159
Infamous making Na`Vi look like a TI Champions they were before... My pubs have more synergy and cohesion than this.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
March 17 2018 14:39 GMT
#160
On March 17 2018 23:38 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Infamous making Na`Vi look like a TI Champions they were before... My pubs have more synergy and cohesion than this.


That's a lot of SA Dota in general. Team that makes TI is normally the one that figures out how to high ground push in the local meta.
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