• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:43
CEST 17:43
KST 00:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE12Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b8IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"9ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!42
StarCraft 2
General
Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Terran or Protoss
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool
Tourneys
2v2v2v2 Tournament [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Star Con San Diego 2026 Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 17921 users

[DreamLeague Major] Season 8 - Championship Sunday - Page 2

Forum Index > Dota 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 15 16 17 Next All
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 03 2017 12:07 GMT
#21
17mn linken eblade (and not naked, aquila treads)
rofl
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
December 03 2017 12:09 GMT
#22
I think I've never seen a bigger stomp.
NoiR
nRoot
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany928 Posts
December 03 2017 12:09 GMT
#23
holy shit that miracle morph farm
gg
Sphaero
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1697 Posts
December 03 2017 12:10 GMT
#24
Secret made the horse angry. You don´t wanna make the horse angry...
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
December 03 2017 12:10 GMT
#25
Too bad tiltus pro showed up yesterday, it ruined a potentially good bo3.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7750 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-03 12:12:59
December 03 2017 12:10 GMT
#26
edit: sry I thought the guy was hunter_x XD

Top 3 is fine for now for EG, let's hope it only gets better from now on
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9588 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-03 12:12:17
December 03 2017 12:10 GMT
#27
Well, Liquid certainly not fucking around today. They are HUNGRY for that grand final.

BTW anyone else find it so funny and ironic how all of these ice-based heroes can kill each other with ice based abilities?
I know it wouldn't make any sense for them not to be able to do that from a gameplay perspective but it just begs the questions who has the coldest ice? Winter Wyvern? Crystal Maiden? Ancient Apparation? Lich?
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
December 03 2017 12:11 GMT
#28
On December 03 2017 21:05 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2017 21:04 babysimba wrote:
New morph boys. The amount of sustain he has is broken for a hard carry that can scales so well. Just give him a bit of gold and xp advantage at start and he doesn't ever need protection for rest of game ever.


I still think old morph was a better carry overall. I guess icefraud pushed his strengths from late game more to the early game side.

Old one was harder to catch/kill and better split-pusher, but new one is definitely better carry. The amount of combos you can do with new ultimate is just disgusting.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 03 2017 12:12 GMT
#29
holy shit. I was scared when I saw the draft thinking EG looked so much better comming to the conclusion "well, if EG doesn't win this game they can't won't win any game vs Liquid"...

A bit like the same issue as Fata had in one of the games yesterday. AM wasn't even that bad. Sure once they changed to trilane vs RTZ later in the game he had issues but not like he was trashed either. His start was on par with Miracle.
Just that uni kept dying and Miracle kept farming heroes on top of creeps.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
December 03 2017 12:12 GMT
#30
EG getting grounded hard, just after they thought they were tier 1 again.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-03 12:14:37
December 03 2017 12:12 GMT
#31
It's the no mana stats shift that is outright broken, and rate of stat shift is higher than before.
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
December 03 2017 12:15 GMT
#32
Miracle had more hero damage than EG in that game
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7750 Posts
December 03 2017 12:17 GMT
#33
On December 03 2017 21:12 hunter_x wrote:
EG getting grounded hard, just after they thought they were tier 1 again.

They played really well this tournament overall, but they still need to work on their play. Also this "shit on EG on every occasion possible" stuff from fans of other teams is getting a bit old by now. Grow up or go back to reddit with this shit.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-03 12:19:34
December 03 2017 12:17 GMT
#34
On December 03 2017 21:11 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2017 21:05 Latham wrote:
On December 03 2017 21:04 babysimba wrote:
New morph boys. The amount of sustain he has is broken for a hard carry that can scales so well. Just give him a bit of gold and xp advantage at start and he doesn't ever need protection for rest of game ever.


I still think old morph was a better carry overall. I guess icefraud pushed his strengths from late game more to the early game side.

Old one was harder to catch/kill and better split-pusher, but new one is definitely better carry. The amount of combos you can do with new ultimate is just disgusting.

meh, I don't think the ulti is something to discuss that much on Morph. The playstyle changed overall a bit but I'd say it's pretty much a toss-up between old and new if we're just looking at that.

But it's not just that. The statmorph now costs no mana. He has an entire ability more than he used to. That makes him better no matter what you think about the old one unless you really think the new ult is so much worse that it outdoes that.
I'm even willing to argue that the new ulti is worse than the old one tbh. I think it's pretty close but I can see people arguing going either way on the ult but the rest just makes him so much stronger.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
December 03 2017 12:20 GMT
#35
On December 03 2017 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2017 21:11 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On December 03 2017 21:05 Latham wrote:
On December 03 2017 21:04 babysimba wrote:
New morph boys. The amount of sustain he has is broken for a hard carry that can scales so well. Just give him a bit of gold and xp advantage at start and he doesn't ever need protection for rest of game ever.


I still think old morph was a better carry overall. I guess icefraud pushed his strengths from late game more to the early game side.

Old one was harder to catch/kill and better split-pusher, but new one is definitely better carry. The amount of combos you can do with new ultimate is just disgusting.

meh, I don't think the ulti is something to discuss that much on Morph. The playstyle changed overall a bit but I'd say it's pretty much a toss-up between old and new if we're just looking at that.

But it's not just that. The statmorph now costs no mana. He has an entire ability more than he used to. That makes him better no matter what you think about the old one unless you really think the new ult is so much worse that it outdoes that.
I'm even willing to argue that the new ulti is worse than the old one tbh. I think it's pretty close but I can see people arguing going either way on the ult but the rest just makes him so much more stronger.

?

I am arguing that new one is stronger, or you wanted to quote the guy before me?
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
December 03 2017 12:22 GMT
#36
That Dr. Disrespect is really well fed. Just like Morph game earlier.
I am not good with quotes
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 03 2017 12:23 GMT
#37
On December 03 2017 21:20 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2017 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:
On December 03 2017 21:11 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On December 03 2017 21:05 Latham wrote:
On December 03 2017 21:04 babysimba wrote:
New morph boys. The amount of sustain he has is broken for a hard carry that can scales so well. Just give him a bit of gold and xp advantage at start and he doesn't ever need protection for rest of game ever.


I still think old morph was a better carry overall. I guess icefraud pushed his strengths from late game more to the early game side.

Old one was harder to catch/kill and better split-pusher, but new one is definitely better carry. The amount of combos you can do with new ultimate is just disgusting.

meh, I don't think the ulti is something to discuss that much on Morph. The playstyle changed overall a bit but I'd say it's pretty much a toss-up between old and new if we're just looking at that.

But it's not just that. The statmorph now costs no mana. He has an entire ability more than he used to. That makes him better no matter what you think about the old one unless you really think the new ult is so much worse that it outdoes that.
I'm even willing to argue that the new ulti is worse than the old one tbh. I think it's pretty close but I can see people arguing going either way on the ult but the rest just makes him so much more stronger.

?

I am arguing that new one is stronger, or you wanted to quote the guy before me?

I'm agreeing with you that the new one is better, but disagreeing with your assertion that it's the new ult and the combos you can do with it that makes the new morph stronger.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
December 03 2017 12:37 GMT
#38
while i do think morph is ridiculous,EG also lane like a retard though. you dont put tide solo against morph like that
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
December 03 2017 12:38 GMT
#39
On December 03 2017 21:17 PoulsenB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2017 21:12 hunter_x wrote:
EG getting grounded hard, just after they thought they were tier 1 again.

They played really well this tournament overall, but they still need to work on their play. Also this "shit on EG on every occasion possible" stuff from fans of other teams is getting a bit old by now. Grow up or go back to reddit with this shit.

Actually that was a reference at reddit, because eg fans were getting super cocky there yesterday. But its not only eg that get shit on. Have you read the reddit thread after Liquid vs Secret?
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
December 03 2017 12:52 GMT
#40
On December 03 2017 21:23 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2017 21:20 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On December 03 2017 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:
On December 03 2017 21:11 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On December 03 2017 21:05 Latham wrote:
On December 03 2017 21:04 babysimba wrote:
New morph boys. The amount of sustain he has is broken for a hard carry that can scales so well. Just give him a bit of gold and xp advantage at start and he doesn't ever need protection for rest of game ever.


I still think old morph was a better carry overall. I guess icefraud pushed his strengths from late game more to the early game side.

Old one was harder to catch/kill and better split-pusher, but new one is definitely better carry. The amount of combos you can do with new ultimate is just disgusting.

meh, I don't think the ulti is something to discuss that much on Morph. The playstyle changed overall a bit but I'd say it's pretty much a toss-up between old and new if we're just looking at that.

But it's not just that. The statmorph now costs no mana. He has an entire ability more than he used to. That makes him better no matter what you think about the old one unless you really think the new ult is so much worse that it outdoes that.
I'm even willing to argue that the new ulti is worse than the old one tbh. I think it's pretty close but I can see people arguing going either way on the ult but the rest just makes him so much more stronger.

?

I am arguing that new one is stronger, or you wanted to quote the guy before me?

I'm agreeing with you that the new one is better, but disagreeing with your assertion that it's the new ult and the combos you can do with it that makes the new morph stronger.

Ofc it isn't just ulti, new talents are sick as well, no mana stats swap and the rest, but unlike previous one that used his ult for escape in 99% of the time cause illusion could be just dispelled, new ult is like a Rubick on crack that can't steal ultimates but gets the all other basic abilities of the hero. People didn't even think about the possibilities and trust me there are some really broken combinations.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 15 16 17 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #257
WardiTV678
EmpressLilyy27
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 521
ProTech73
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 42430
Calm 7201
EffOrt 1229
Soma 558
Shuttle 411
Soulkey 357
Snow 297
BeSt 279
Rush 210
hero 115
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 78
Hyun 78
Killer 77
Sharp 77
Sea.KH 61
Mind 51
JYJ 47
ToSsGirL 44
scan(afreeca) 33
Sexy 32
Shine 31
HiyA 29
Terrorterran 21
zelot 10
IntoTheRainbow 9
Dewaltoss 2
Mong 1
Dota 2
Gorgc9547
qojqva794
Dendi754
League of Legends
Trikslyr26
Counter-Strike
fl0m3908
x6flipin474
Other Games
FrodaN2480
singsing1642
hiko851
B2W.Neo734
Mlord560
DeMusliM284
uThermal201
ToD195
crisheroes148
QueenE67
BananaSlamJamma57
XaKoH 49
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 0
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3085
• WagamamaTV496
League of Legends
• Nemesis2278
Upcoming Events
Patches Events
1h 17m
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs TBD
OSC
1h 47m
Replay Cast
8h 17m
Escore
18h 17m
CrankTV Team League
19h 17m
OSC
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 12h
RSL Revival
1d 17h
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 19h
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-29
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
Escore Tournament S3: W8
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.