I don't think so. Chinese dota 2 scene is very competitive at the moment with an influx of new talent given a chance to play for top teams. DPL going on is good practice for Kiev as well.

dutchfriese

2554 Posts

April 04 2017 10:54 GMT

#925

On April 04 2017 19:03 Caladbolg wrote:

Alch rework. I think the concept of Alch is really just so different from most Dota heroes. If ever, his ulti might be drastically changed yet again. I like his other skills though. It's really either ulti change or passive change. Passive kinda makes the concept of Alchemist though, so I think ulti regen will be lowered or cooldown increase will be dramatic. Also maybe a 5-10 minute cooldown on gifting items.

Agreed. AT the very least he should be removed from CM. So sick of that hero

RubickPicker

United States332 Posts

April 04 2017 11:04 GMT

#926

I don't think China will do as well in Kiev, but it's not for any usual Azarkon reasons.

The tournament was structured so 50% of the teams were from China. So the Chinese teams knew about half of their opponents very well from DPL etc.

Caladbolg

2855 Posts

April 04 2017 11:23 GMT

#927

On April 04 2017 20:04 RubickPicker wrote:
I don't think China will do as well in Kiev, but it's not for any usual Azarkon reasons.

The tournament was structured so 50% of the teams were from China. So the Chinese teams knew about half of their opponents very well from DPL etc.

But they still kinda crushed the non-Chinese teams (except for OG).

I think China will do well. Not as well as getting 3 teams in top 4, but maybe 3 teams in top 6. IG and Newbee are definitely tier 1, with IG on top, but IGV and VGJ are decent as well, and to be honest VG main (with END and Ori) are tearing up Chinese leagues as well, taking the most games off IG.

Vertical

Indonesia4317 Posts

April 04 2017 11:37 GMT

#928

On April 04 2017 19:47 dutchfriese wrote:

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OG went full tilt after Alch comitted seppuku top lane.

Alche game one totaly ruin the entire series
whoever lost that fucking alche game will go tilt
in this case its OG

uthgard

2098 Posts

April 04 2017 13:30 GMT

#929

just catch up with the VODs, goddamn it feels good seeing IG wrecking OG 3-0 in finals

hope this tilts them for the next few tournaments

also fuck alchemist, reduce base int by 5 reduce str agi gain by 0.5 or something

Dracolich70

Denmark3820 Posts

April 04 2017 13:40 GMT

#930

On April 04 2017 20:23 Caladbolg wrote:

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Saying they crushed them is trying to create a hyperbole. IG were very strong, and Newbee a bit less so, and they also won their group, just like OG and Empire won theirs with 3 chinese teams in it. Empire lost to Newbee and VG.Vit 2-1. VG.J, TL, and EG were a disappointment, and Wings and LFY never hit any stride. There were no crushing defeats until the GF.

Zea!

9589 Posts

April 04 2017 19:37 GMT

#931

nooo OG

, the Riki pick caught them off guard... well, grats to Burning anyway, coming back on top after all this time must be great for him

bluzi

4703 Posts

April 04 2017 19:52 GMT

#932

Great showing from Burning , as with everyone else on this thread im for the "kill alch" brigade , that hero is just the bane of fun dota , you shut him down in lane , he farms , you shut him down in the mid game ? he is still 5k ahead , you didnt shut him down in lane or mid game ? he is 20k to your carry 10k , and then late game comes and he farms like a rocket pumping gold to the team , hero is boring and disugsting to watch , 50min games all the time unless he snowballed himself and then its 30 min raxes for the Alch team , hate the hero , hate the concept as well , borrrrring to watch and cheesy as f****k

TMG26

Portugal2017 Posts

April 05 2017 09:48 GMT

#933

There should be a brawling Alch comeback, like the TI3 era Alch.

superstartran

United States4013 Posts

April 05 2017 11:31 GMT

#934

On April 04 2017 18:53 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:

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ti6 wings tho

?

Wings was never even remotely close to being a favorite, more like a total hit or miss team that caught fire in the middle of the tournament. They were considered one of the better teams coming out of China at the time (top 3 depending on whether they could stop trolling themselves on the pick screen), however the West teams at the time like EG and OG were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more favored.

iG played well this tournament, but we'll see how they do when they no longer can just surprise people with their picks and people have had time to prepare for them. It's nice to see that Burning no longer has to be a dominant core anymore where he has to farm big time and put his team on his backpack like back in the old days.

Caladbolg

2855 Posts

April 07 2017 04:53 GMT

#935

On April 05 2017 20:31 superstartran wrote:

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Huh. Wings won two stacked tournaments prior to TI6 in dominant fashion and with out-of-meta picks. Sure they kinda flunked the major before it, but they were definitely one of the favorites.