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Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Poll: DAC 2017 ChampionOG (30) 58% Invictus Gaming (14) 27% Newbee (8) 15% 52 total votes Your vote: DAC 2017 Champion (Vote): OG
(Vote): Newbee
(Vote): Invictus Gaming
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Happy OG reached the final, hope they'll take it all :D, go GUSTAV!!
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Seems like OG should win this one. They've already beaten both Newbee and IG in upper bracket bo3's.
I think whichever team gets to a 2-1 or 2-0 advantage wins this. This ain't going to a game 5.
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I think my only hope of watching the finals are going to bed super early and waking up and 3/4 am. This time zone difference is the worst.
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On April 04 2017 04:51 Zea! wrote:
Happy OG reached the final, hope they'll take it all :D, go GUSTAV!!
The one true son of magnus
On April 04 2017 07:04 Sbrubbles wrote:
I think my only hope of watching the finals are going to bed super early and waking up and 3/4 am. This time zone difference is the worst.
Thanks to having a 6 month old thats teething I'm up all night anyways xD
OG definately have a shoe in but I want to see IG v OG rematch
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Newbee 2-0 IG
Newbee 3-1 OG
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I'm guessing we get an OG-iG rematch in the final. Probably 3-1 to OG, but I'm hoping for 5.
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On April 04 2017 06:09 Moobutt wrote:
Seems like OG should win this one. They've already beaten both Newbee and IG in upper bracket bo3's.
I think whichever team gets to a 2-1 or 2-0 advantage wins this. This ain't going to a game 5.
I honestly don't know. Yea, newbee got outplayed hard by OG, but i feel IG might able to win this if they got through newbee.
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I'm hoping iG can take out Newbee 2-1 and OG 3-2
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Newbee and IG have a combined 81% winrate on Monkey King at this tournament.
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So OG beat both of them already. Must be feeling comfortable.
aaaaaand theres an alchemist
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first 2 picks alchemist which IG havent played this tournament..i dont know about this for IG.
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I almost wish Icefrog would make purchasing manta+radiance together impossible.
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I think iG won the draft solidly.
Also Magnus is my least favorite hero...
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Venge aura + empower = scary glaives
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This is a sick teamfight lineup for Newbee, but I think ig Weaver gets Aghs at a decent time, iG should be able to win this
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Impressive stuff. Picking ursa to counter alch, and IG's response is to send alch into jungle and be even greedier with farming 4 cores.
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Do teams actually manage to shut down Alchemist? He just seems so obnoxious in the first ten minutes.
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Not the start I imagined for iG. Still, Newbee's committing alot for those bat kills, and while they're getting them, Jug and Alch are just fine.
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Alchemist shit is going to start happening soon. Not liking teams picking Ursa every game to counter the Alchemist. Alchemist can just leave the lane and do fine out of lane anyways.
edit: Nice move by IG to take a fight right after that fresh sub 14 minute radiance.
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Just tuned in. I thought support Weaver stopped being a thing.
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haha that sneaky second rosh attempt from Newbee
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The only real counter to alch is meepo in terms of dominating the lane and ending the game early. Not sure how strong meepo is now after the tower armor aura changes though.
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Newbee basically need to end this game before Alchemist starts handing out Scepters.
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One bad teamfight. Then the whole game gets turned on its head. Just alchemist things.
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Classic Alch highground defense
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On April 04 2017 11:33 Moobutt wrote:
Do teams actually manage to shut down Alchemist? He just seems so obnoxious in the first ten minutes.
Ever since teams managed to learn how to farm both jungles efficiently while dodging no. Not with any consistency at least.
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Interesting point Godz making about blocking camps. I miss that. Picking a Bounty Hunter or Riki and just blocking out the critical camps and following around a jungler.
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Newbee play is so predictable. China evolves, but doesn't change.
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Sccc poping bkb and enrage at the same time is so bad..
Alch isn't going to die anytime soon with abyssal dmg block, solar crest and time lapse
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this is some wild dota. hope the finals aren't a dud
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So what's Newbee doing wrong, or is the Alch just that out of control right now?
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On April 04 2017 12:04 VGhost wrote:
So what's Newbee doing wrong, or is the Alch just that out of control right now?
The latter
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Q is way more creative and versatile than Faith. They must have been studying OG on how to play alchemist and with the addition of weaver its just disgusting.
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On April 04 2017 12:05 babysimba wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 12:04 VGhost wrote:
So what's Newbee doing wrong, or is the Alch just that out of control right now? The latter
Eh a bit of both. Newbee probably should have played riskier to end it before Alch gave out 4 scepters.
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Creep wave takes IG top rax. D:
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hero creeps keeping newbee's hopes alive
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Alright rapier gaming. That's your only chance
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the concept of hero alchemist is osfrog smoking some weeds and acid, polluting volvo office with obnoxious smoke while gaining lotta money from jewish gaben
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On April 04 2017 12:08 Moobutt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 12:05 babysimba wrote:On April 04 2017 12:04 VGhost wrote:
So what's Newbee doing wrong, or is the Alch just that out of control right now? The latter Eh a bit of both. Newbee probably should have played riskier to end it before Alch gave out 4 scepters.
It's hard because of how easy it is to defend and rotate now with shrines. They couldn't just blindly fight.
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Well on the bright side, Icefrog is likely to nerf alch before Kiev finally after escaping nerfs from 2 patches.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
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Poor luna getting bullied
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ROFL
This is the most ridiculous shit ever. Alch/Weaver/Heal Ward/Lotus Orb.
What da fuck.
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eclipse probably would have helped there, maybe he just figured he would never get it off vs alchemist abyssal
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Time Lapse shits on Rapier hard.
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On April 04 2017 12:09 superstartran wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 12:08 Moobutt wrote:On April 04 2017 12:05 babysimba wrote:On April 04 2017 12:04 VGhost wrote:
So what's Newbee doing wrong, or is the Alch just that out of control right now? The latter Eh a bit of both. Newbee probably should have played riskier to end it before Alch gave out 4 scepters. It's hard because of how easy it is to defend and rotate now with shrines. They couldn't just blindly fight.
Well they could, that's part of the risk.
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weaver agh should be 1 minute cooldown
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On April 04 2017 12:12 superstartran wrote:
ROFL
This is the most ridiculous shit ever. Alch/Weaver/Heal Ward/Lotus Orb.
What da fuck.
it's death by a 1000 cuts. seems broken, but do need a competent team to pull it off.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On April 04 2017 12:12 nayumi wrote:
Time Lapse shits on Rapier hard.
You mean on entire Newbee line-up?
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ROFL 13000 damage done by luna and couldn't kill any cores. Alchemist is such a fucken cancerous sponge. Alchemist with timelapse? triggering for sure.
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On April 04 2017 12:13 Moobutt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 12:09 superstartran wrote:On April 04 2017 12:08 Moobutt wrote:On April 04 2017 12:05 babysimba wrote:On April 04 2017 12:04 VGhost wrote:
So what's Newbee doing wrong, or is the Alch just that out of control right now? The latter Eh a bit of both. Newbee probably should have played riskier to end it before Alch gave out 4 scepters. It's hard because of how easy it is to defend and rotate now with shrines. They couldn't just blindly fight. Well they could, that's part of the risk.
It's the same issue you had back in like the 5.xx days of AFK farming Dusas vs PLs.
It's far safer to farm and rotate to defend then it is to blindly gank.
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Stealing aghs empower would be nice too. Illusions will have cleave and bonus damage lol
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when weaver has agh, the friendly time lapse should have osfrog aegis icon instead of the current icon
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
So, 42k networth, 4 gifted aghs and 1 gifted moonshard.
42k+4*4.2k+4000=62.8k.
Dayum.
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Swap into double skewer back to fountain. Extreme measures is needed xd
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I do hate Alch but you gotta do what you gotta do
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At least we won't see Alch nonsense at TI.
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That game kind of sucked. Newbee played the first 20 minutes real clean and it just didn't matter.
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1 hour in, 40mn of total map control, and magnus has boots, blink and perseverance.
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On April 04 2017 12:17 lolfail9001 wrote:
So, 42k networth, 4 gifted aghs and 1 gifted moonshard.
42k+4*4.2k+4000=62.8k.
Dayum.
Remove 8.2k because alch gifted moon shard+aghs to himself.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On April 04 2017 12:19 Thetwinmasters wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 12:17 lolfail9001 wrote:
So, 42k networth, 4 gifted aghs and 1 gifted moonshard.
42k+4*4.2k+4000=62.8k.
Dayum. Remove 8.2k because alch gifted moon shard+aghs to himself.
I accounted for that, self-gifted moonshard/aghs are in his 42k of networth.
4 aghs and 1 moonshard he bought for teammates.
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how has AA not been picked against alch yet? is it really that bad a hero?
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Need some jakiro or shadow shaman to brute force high ground reliably i guess.
Still a bullshit hero. They were never close to losing despite how starved his team was.
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On April 04 2017 12:19 juff wrote:
how has AA not been picked against alch yet? is it really that bad a hero?
Unreliable. It's been tried. The true strength of Alch is his ability to not just farm, but also to reboost his team's networth come 'early' late game and tremendously boost their power. See Weaver nonsensical Time Lapse this game or OG's own Alch shenanigans. He can also hold high ground forever past a certain networth unless you just brute force with Shaman Wards or Jak super early.
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and IG pulled out alchemist at a time when noone thought they would.. OP almost never plays this hero
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On April 04 2017 12:19 juff wrote:
how has AA not been picked against alch yet? is it really that bad a hero?
Stubborn I guess. Makes a supposedly tanky alch paper.
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On April 04 2017 12:19 juff wrote:
how has AA not been picked against alch yet? is it really that bad a hero?
Weak early game due to roaming support meta. Probably will get run down by enemies constantly during laning stage.
Still worth a try to pick him I think.
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1238 gpm dear lord
Do you guys think removing the mana regen from alch's ult would be a good nerf to him?
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On April 04 2017 12:17 lolfail9001 wrote:
So, 42k networth, 4 gifted aghs and 1 gifted moonshard.
42k+4*4.2k+4000=62.8k.
Dayum.
1.2k GPM.... Like... what the fuck.
It wouldn't feel as broken if it wasn't so difficult to punish.
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Highest this tournament right? Man. That was a very dirty way to win. I love it. But still, let's just ban Alch/Naga guys.
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I'm glad Funny Pussy is liked in China
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Burning looks like a mid-age man.
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ayy china has their own $4 meme
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On April 04 2017 12:26 TomatoBisque wrote:
ayy china has their own $4 meme
I think $4 comes from a translated chinese comic
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On April 04 2017 12:24 Caladbolg wrote:
Highest this tournament right? Man. That was a very dirty way to win. I love it. But still, let's just ban Alch/Naga guys.
Naga never seems to get quite as out of control... or maybe she's just slower getting there so it feels less broken.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On April 04 2017 12:27 VGhost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 12:24 Caladbolg wrote:
Highest this tournament right? Man. That was a very dirty way to win. I love it. But still, let's just ban Alch/Naga guys. Naga never seems to get quite as out of control... or maybe she's just slower getting there so it feels less broken.
Naga can't act as a damage sponge, that's the difference.
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On April 04 2017 12:27 VGhost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 12:24 Caladbolg wrote:
Highest this tournament right? Man. That was a very dirty way to win. I love it. But still, let's just ban Alch/Naga guys. Naga never seems to get quite as out of control... or maybe she's just slower getting there so it feels less broken.
She's not able to get into the jungle at level 3/4 and power farm as fast as Alch. And then she doesn't sponge soak as hard as Alch, nor does she dramatically increase the power level of your team so much later in the game. He can be countered if the other team misplays their farming patterns, but it's so annoying and actually very hard to execute against teams that are good at defensive play.
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On April 04 2017 12:27 VGhost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 12:24 Caladbolg wrote:
Highest this tournament right? Man. That was a very dirty way to win. I love it. But still, let's just ban Alch/Naga guys. Naga never seems to get quite as out of control... or maybe she's just slower getting there so it feels less broken.
She doesn't have that insane burst in farm that Alch has, at the moment in time they get radiance. But Naga is insane for the teamfighting with song, as OG demonstrated in that game 3 vs iG.
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Op's 1238 GPM is the highest of 7.xx so far and is fifth all-time in professional Dota 2
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Wanna see OP Tinker please. Or Royal Guard Lina.
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Burning Naga please!
(just kidding of course, but I miss the DK Burning Naga era)
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On April 04 2017 12:33 Caladbolg wrote:
Burning Naga please!
Naga, morphling , anti mage doesnt actually fit that much the way IG plays the game. then again, i never expected them to pick alch
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On April 04 2017 12:34 Kamisamanachi wrote:Naga, morphling , anti mage doesnt actually fit that much the way IG plays the game. then again, i never expected them to pick alch
I think they have to go out of their comfort zone to beat OG. Their usual style of play can get countered by OG's extremely good defensive play.
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Well that's a hero I don't think I've ever seen in play yet. Only be watching regularly about 9 months, but...
No, wait, there've been a couple games this tournament already. Ignore me, I'm tired.
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i want to see sccc drafts together with aui and EE. it will be the group with most amount of seizure in the world.
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Not liking this OD pick. I've often seen OD players not coordinate properly with a Jugg carry and astral an enemy while spin was on, and vs Lina it will get blown up with just an ES roll and stun.
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This is really the Radiance tournament as someone said. Very funny given DAC's emblem.
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Xxs is the answer to Burning's old complaint that Chinese offlaners were bad (and Faith Bian during TI6 of course).
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Xxs and Faith Bian are indeed excellent. Xz was good during his TI run too.
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Axe counters Jugg too much. Axe can home in on jugg and solo kill him in every teamfight with blademail. Which was why they were pressured to pick OD to save jugg.
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I honestly love Q. This IG definitely reminds me of CDEC but more well rounded.
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not saying sccc is bad player, but he hasn't been impressive in this series although he is given farm priority
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That feeling of trying to gank in trees and then sudden spec ult.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Newbee never seem that great to me once they get to semis or finals of tournaments. Or maybe they're just outclassed.
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Alche disgust me. sadly if iG win we're gonna have two Alche picker in the grand final.
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Axe is getting picked way too few times for how broken that hero is.
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On April 04 2017 13:10 stuchiu wrote:
Newbee never seem that great to me once they get to semis or finals of tournaments. Or maybe they're just outclassed.
this is true. They're demonic in group stage and day 1,2,3 of the main event. But looks terrible in the last day(s).
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jesus christ playing against kotl is the most triggering thing
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On April 04 2017 13:10 babysimba wrote:
Axe is getting picked way too few times for how broken that hero is.
I remember people kept calling 12s RP when he was popular. In fact, his call has not been nerfed and blademail is buffed significantly, yet his pick rate declines.
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i mean , xxs was trusted and cultivated by burning himself. but boboka has been absolute god this tournament
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United States15275 Posts
On the one hand, Spectre is doing well. On the other hand, another Lina pick doing well zzzzzz. My heart is conflicted.
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Merlini too much of a fan of Sccc to be objective for Newbee. This was a clear outdraft, and OP is just as good as Sccc and has a more in-meta hero pool.
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On April 04 2017 13:12 Snakesneaks wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 13:10 babysimba wrote:
Axe is getting picked way too few times for how broken that hero is. I remember people kept calling 12s RP when he was popular. In fact, his call has not been nerfed and blademail is buffed significantly, yet his pick rate declines.
who needs 12s RP when you can do 16s time lapse on Alch?
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On April 04 2017 13:14 Kamisamanachi wrote:
i mean , xxs was trusted and cultivated by burning himself. but boboka has been absolute god this tournament
Yeah that last Rosh fight damn. Boboka did work. Truly the Jerax of the east.
Funny how they will meet in the finals to see who the true MK/ES god is.
I think if OG keep up this steam they will win.
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lol iG dmg to building is actually so puny
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a rematch, just as I had hoped
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On April 04 2017 13:16 Vertical wrote:
lol iG dmg to building is actually so puny
It was back door there, once creeps showed up they were fine.
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don't worry, ig are probably tilted from having their mana burned all game long.
brb vomiting
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Well, gg.
First game looked like pure Alch cheese, but that second game iG's just clearly the better team.
Was planning to watch final but I think I'll call it a night and catch VODs.
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Glad iG made it through. They'll be a much more competitive opponent for OG in the finals.
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Chance for Burning to win a championship again.
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IG should always ban alch if OG have first pick. Ana alch is on different level compared to other players.
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On April 04 2017 13:20 Snakesneaks wrote:
IG should always ban alch if OG have first pick. Ana alch is on different level compared to other players.
Ana's jungle efficiency is beautiful to watch though.
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rofl only u9 got a kill on newbee and the highest damage output was from kotl.
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This meta is so bad. There is like only 2-3 optimal systems of playing this patch. Hero picks may differ here and there, but the core playstyle doesn't change at all.
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Sad the technical side of translation works so badly. The few times the translation worked properly it was good.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
We really gonna wait 1.5 hours for finals?
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On April 04 2017 13:25 stuchiu wrote:
We really gonna wait 1.5 hours for finals?
yes, thats what PGL guy said on reddit.
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On April 04 2017 13:21 babysimba wrote:
This meta is so bad. There is like only 2-3 optimal systems of playing this patch. Hero picks may differ here and there, but the core playstyle doesn't change at all.
Like every patch? I think this has more to do with teams than with the actual meta. Teams will always gravitate to what they feel is the strongest in any meta.
One team shows something new. Other teams copy. Good team finds a counter. Rinse. Repeat.
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On April 04 2017 13:21 babysimba wrote:
This meta is so bad. There is like only 2-3 optimal systems of playing this patch. Hero picks may differ here and there, but the core playstyle doesn't change at all.
this happens almost every patch. idk tell me which patch in the past you got 10 different playstyles. certain team pioneer certain playstyle and sets the meta and other teams try to adjust to it. . apart from alch and naga, teams are showcasing their own playstyles here.
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On April 04 2017 13:31 Kamisamanachi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 13:21 babysimba wrote:
This meta is so bad. There is like only 2-3 optimal systems of playing this patch. Hero picks may differ here and there, but the core playstyle doesn't change at all. this happens almost every patch. idk tell me which patch in the past you got 10 different playstyles. certain team pioneer certain playstyle and sets the meta and other teams try to adjust to it. . apart from alch and naga, teams are showcasing their own playstyles here.
6.80 was pretty good aside from lycan and the like. I dare say 6.81 was good too but people are clouded by a very small sample of matches from 2-3 teams in a single tournament and think the whole patch was like that (false)
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On April 04 2017 13:35 Shergal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 13:31 Kamisamanachi wrote:On April 04 2017 13:21 babysimba wrote:
This meta is so bad. There is like only 2-3 optimal systems of playing this patch. Hero picks may differ here and there, but the core playstyle doesn't change at all. this happens almost every patch. idk tell me which patch in the past you got 10 different playstyles. certain team pioneer certain playstyle and sets the meta and other teams try to adjust to it. . apart from alch and naga, teams are showcasing their own playstyles here. 6.80 was pretty good aside from lycan and the like. I dare say 6.81 was good too but people are clouded by a very small sample of matches from 2-3 teams in a single tournament and think the whole patch was like that (false)
People thought 6.83 was good too, based on DAC. Then people figured it out and HOHOHAHA.
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the few months before ti6 when wings was dominating everything with varied styles felt pretty good
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Is there a start time, or is it just whenever everyone's ready?
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On April 04 2017 14:01 plasmidghost wrote:
Is there a start time, or is it just whenever everyone's ready?
about one more hour according to PGL people
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On April 04 2017 14:01 plasmidghost wrote:
Is there a start time, or is it just whenever everyone's ready?
starts in an hour from now
I think its a good timing for iG to rest and prepare
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Man why do we have to wait an hour, now I'll be able to catch at most one game
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On April 04 2017 14:04 plasmidghost wrote:
Man why do we have to wait an hour, now I'll be able to catch at most one game
Maybe be considerate to the exhausted players who has finished tiring series. The final will be anticlimatic as well if IG cannot come up with their 100 %.
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On April 04 2017 14:04 plasmidghost wrote:
Man why do we have to wait an hour, now I'll be able to catch at most one game
just pray naga or alch doesn't get picked in that 1 game..xD
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On April 04 2017 14:04 plasmidghost wrote:
Man why do we have to wait an hour, now I'll be able to catch at most one game
lunch break?
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On April 04 2017 14:09 Snakesneaks wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 14:04 plasmidghost wrote:
Man why do we have to wait an hour, now I'll be able to catch at most one game Maybe be considerate to the exhausted players who has finished tiring series. The final will be anticlimatic as well if IG cannot come up with their 100 %.
I'd understand if they'd been playing all day but they literally only played two games
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On April 04 2017 13:21 babysimba wrote:
This meta is so bad. There is like only 2-3 optimal systems of playing this patch. Hero picks may differ here and there, but the core playstyle doesn't change at all.
Glad to read that i am not alone with this opinion.
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Hopefully the meta will expand at Kiev, I wouldn't be too surprised if a minor balance patch hit between now and then
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Wtf waking up to some chinese guy singing, and hes pretty bad too lol
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can jack live translate this ?
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Chinese people can be so weird lol
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I don't know what's going on and I don't like it
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On April 04 2017 14:37 hunter_x wrote:
Chinese people can be so weird lol
please it is still better than katie
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Beautiful !!!!!!! Stand aside K-pop. C-pop is here !!!
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On April 04 2017 14:40 Snakesneaks wrote:please it is still better than katie
But it's about the same as deadmau5
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On April 04 2017 14:40 plasmidghost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 14:40 Snakesneaks wrote:On April 04 2017 14:37 hunter_x wrote:
Chinese people can be so weird lol please it is still better than katie But it's about the same as deadmau5
All shit if u ask me;)
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On April 04 2017 14:41 hunter_x wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 14:40 plasmidghost wrote:On April 04 2017 14:40 Snakesneaks wrote:On April 04 2017 14:37 hunter_x wrote:
Chinese people can be so weird lol please it is still better than katie But it's about the same as deadmau5 All shit if u ask me;)
I don't think I've ever seen a good concert performance at a Dota tourney, nothing matches the K-pop performances in the Starcraft tourneys
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Chinese music is so weird
i mean i've listened to japanese and korean songs but it's still weird to listen to it
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On April 04 2017 14:42 plasmidghost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 14:41 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 14:40 plasmidghost wrote:On April 04 2017 14:40 Snakesneaks wrote:On April 04 2017 14:37 hunter_x wrote:
Chinese people can be so weird lol please it is still better than katie But it's about the same as deadmau5 All shit if u ask me;) I don't think I've ever seen a good concert performance at a Dota tourney
You mean never saw a good singer/band right?
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Haters gonna hate, meanwhile those two are having fun and getting paid a boatload of yuans for it huehue
On April 04 2017 14:43 goody153 wrote:
Chinese music is so weird
i mean i've listened to japanese and korean songs but it's still weird to listen to it
It's almost as if China, Japan, and Korea are completely different cultures :p
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On April 04 2017 14:43 hunter_x wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 14:42 plasmidghost wrote:On April 04 2017 14:41 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 14:40 plasmidghost wrote:On April 04 2017 14:40 Snakesneaks wrote:On April 04 2017 14:37 hunter_x wrote:
Chinese people can be so weird lol please it is still better than katie But it's about the same as deadmau5 All shit if u ask me;) I don't think I've ever seen a good concert performance at a Dota tourney You mean never saw a good singer/band right?
Never anyone I particularly liked
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Okay what the fuck, this is as strange and out of place as that one Chinese tourney that had the ballet dancers
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On April 04 2017 14:43 hunter_x wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 14:42 plasmidghost wrote:On April 04 2017 14:41 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 14:40 plasmidghost wrote:On April 04 2017 14:40 Snakesneaks wrote:On April 04 2017 14:37 hunter_x wrote:
Chinese people can be so weird lol please it is still better than katie But it's about the same as deadmau5 All shit if u ask me;) I don't think I've ever seen a good concert performance at a Dota tourney You mean never saw a good singer/band right?
I never watch deadmau5 aside of his TI appearance, but I assume he is quite good based on his popularity. Too bad the pacing at TI6 ending ruined everything.
So, to-do-list for all organizers, invite coldplay for the next major tournaments.
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woh they got yu quan to perform...
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Good for them. Just be an artist in china/asia, you can be complete shit but still be rich. But who am i kidding. If think about it, its no diffrent in the western world. It only sounds less weird for us;)
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Wait holy shit they represent each team, this is actually fucking LIT
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On April 04 2017 14:43 Salazarz wrote:Haters gonna hate, meanwhile those two are having fun and getting paid a boatload of yuans for it huehue Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 14:43 goody153 wrote:
Chinese music is so weird
i mean i've listened to japanese and korean songs but it's still weird to listen to it It's almost as if China, Japan, and Korea are completely different cultures :p
Yeah yeah i know 
I mean i liked alot of japanese songs and a couple of korean ones so i expected chinese songs that i would like a couple as well. Turns out though i don't hate it it's kinda weird to listen
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IG is a well oiled machine.
Q drafting like it's TI5 again.
Think OG ultimately wins though. They are just on another level than everyone else.
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On April 04 2017 14:46 hunter_x wrote:
Good for them. Just be an artist in china/asia, you can be complete shit but still be rich. But who am i kidding. If think about it, its no diffrent in the western world. It only sounds less weird for us;)
actually that duo is very famous in asia. they've been around for a while now maybe 20 yrs? i dunno.
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O Lord - Double Mace's - anyone else feels Wizardry 8 here?!? =)
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Come on burning put up a fight
don't wanna see OG just massacre somebody again in the grand finals like they've always done
make them sweat even though they'll likely gonna win anyways
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Seeing Fly beside the chinese martial artist let me imagine something...
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On April 04 2017 14:49 goody153 wrote:
Come on burning put up a fight
don't wanna see OG just massacre somebody again in the grand finals like they've always done
make them sweat even though they'll likely gonna win anyways
yeah idgaf who wins. just want a nice 5 game series.
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Wow they got SingSing to commentate
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On April 04 2017 14:49 goody153 wrote:
Come on burning put up a fight
don't wanna see OG just massacre somebody again in the grand finals like they've always done
make them sweat even though they'll likely gonna win anyways
I can see this going to 5 games.
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I really want xiao8 and ppd have a sit, discuss, and argue everything about dota
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wow mu 430 sansheng xiao8 on the panel
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Burning hasn't won a premier tournament in almost 3 years and no major tournament in over 2 years
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I gotta say i really enjoy ppd this whole tournament. Very honest and savage guy, didnt like him as a player, but as a panelist hes great.
To the games, i rarely cheer for chinese teams, but can you really not wish for a burning win here? Would be an amazing story!
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On April 04 2017 14:53 plasmidghost wrote:
Burning hasn't won a premier tournament in almost 3 years and no major tournament in over 2 years
if they will win it's gonna be so lit
that means somebody actually took out OG in a b05 also china is back
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On April 04 2017 14:57 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 14:53 plasmidghost wrote:
Burning hasn't won a premier tournament in almost 3 years and no major tournament in over 2 years if they will win it's gonna be so lit that means somebody actually took out OG in a b05 also china is back
wont happen
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Just ban naga and alchemist please
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On April 04 2017 14:57 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 14:53 plasmidghost wrote:
Burning hasn't won a premier tournament in almost 3 years and no major tournament in over 2 years if they will win it's gonna be so lit that means somebody actually took out OG in a b05 also china is back
wings did that in summit
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IG please just ban alch without any further thought
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Ugh another Alch pick, this is gonna be rough for iG, maybe they'll whip out the AA
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I'm just glad that this tournament has made a great case for Alch nerfs
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god damn alchemist
On April 04 2017 14:58 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 14:57 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 14:53 plasmidghost wrote:
Burning hasn't won a premier tournament in almost 3 years and no major tournament in over 2 years if they will win it's gonna be so lit that means somebody actually took out OG in a b05 also china is back wont happen
most likely
OG too OP
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holy shit...these picks
Mu, sansheng, ferrari and xiao8 on chinese panel ..the talent is overflowing
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Guys n Girls, we are in for a big suprise - it is a first pick Alchemist!
Mag + Jugg have beaten Alchemist before though.
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actually AA is a good pick against TB and alch if we dont consider the laning process
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what the fuck alch + TB ?
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Poll: better "G" final roundI (13) 76% O (4) 24% 17 total votes Your vote: better "G" final round (Vote): I
(Vote): O
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Watch this be an alch support or some shit.
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First phase alchemist pick? PLEASE lose.
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magnus + warlock is too 5 man teamfighty but in skirmishes those two are not that great
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On April 04 2017 15:08 goody153 wrote:
magnus + warlock is too 5 man teamfighty but in skirmishes those two are not that great
fatal bonds against terror is too good
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Nice osfrog draft from og
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storm's alright but it would've been for a mid hero that synergizes with magnus
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On April 04 2017 15:10 goody153 wrote:
storm's alright but it would've been for a mid hero that synergizes with magnus
Get Aghs and have two RPs for your team
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IG better shut this fucken Alche Terrorblade nonsense down. OG have done this before with great success. The basic premise is you can't shut down both. One makes space for the other and it pretty much guarantees the late game.
If IG can keep the pressure on then this will be a stomp, or we are going to see them get dissected.
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Come on OG. I know you will not be liked due to the Alchemist pick but I believe in you anyway.
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Oh shit the million dollar dream Carl
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oh wow a puck but that's not enough for me to want OG to win
they still picked damn alchemist
On April 04 2017 15:09 Kamisamanachi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 15:08 goody153 wrote:
magnus + warlock is too 5 man teamfighty but in skirmishes those two are not that great fatal bonds against terror is too good
oh yeah that's alright i guess
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weird things about this draft:
ig didnt take earthspirit 3rd pick when they could've
og took s4's hero 4th and left fly for last instead of vice versa
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puck agh will totally shut down storm and jugg
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i would pick wyvern instead of that warlock
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Btw anyone else thinks those og hoodies are rather ugly?
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First SD pick in the tourney
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First shadow demon of DAC?
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On April 04 2017 15:11 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
weird things about this draft:
ig didnt take earthspirit 3rd pick when they could've
og took s4's hero 4th and left fly for last instead of vice versa
Warlock is excellent versus TB so it's understandable.
I don't like storm 4th pick though.
Better pick a support then counterpick the mid.
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"ohh shadow demon that hero is soo bad against storm spirit" - ppd
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Also the first pickup of Riki, this is gonna be a good game
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yo remember when i called riki a sleeper op 4 position yesterday
i remember
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On April 04 2017 15:13 Kavas wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 15:11 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
weird things about this draft:
ig didnt take earthspirit 3rd pick when they could've
og took s4's hero 4th and left fly for last instead of vice versa Warlock is excellent versus TB so it's understandable. I don't like storm 4th pick though. Better pick a support then counterpick the mid.
storm is actually alright this game
they have 2 silence but that's about it that could stop storm
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Man how greedy can OG get? If they make this work, that will be extremely tilting.
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Storm gives them better pick offs for skirmishes since their offlaner initiator has only a high cd RP spell.
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yea too bad alchs the most broken hero in the game
marginally more broken than mk
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Unless IG pressures hard early I think OG got this.
Not enough DPS on IG versus alc late game and OG has many saving mechanism.
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On April 03 2017 20:46 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2017 20:41 goody153 wrote:On April 03 2017 20:37 MintberryCrunchs wrote:
This meta seems to be very narrow in terms of picks and possible playstyles.
I dont like it at all! it just seems like there's few playstyle with the alchemist/tinker/lina/jugg picks the fact that earthspirit and mk are just clearly a tier above all the other possible 4 heroes is an issue too tbh i think riki is sleeper op in that slot too but mk is still just ridiculous
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On April 04 2017 15:14 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 15:13 Kavas wrote:On April 04 2017 15:11 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
weird things about this draft:
ig didnt take earthspirit 3rd pick when they could've
og took s4's hero 4th and left fly for last instead of vice versa Warlock is excellent versus TB so it's understandable. I don't like storm 4th pick though. Better pick a support then counterpick the mid. storm is actually alright this game they have 2 silence but that's about it that could stop storm
How does Aghanim'd up Puck ulti interact with ball lightning? Doesn't it cancel it into stun or something?
I actually feel proper newbish for not knowing this.
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man i so want IG to win this game
they have riki and OG has alch
that's reason enough for me
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On April 04 2017 15:16 Kavas wrote:
Unless IG pressures hard early I think OG got this.
Not enough DPS on IG versus alc late game and OG has many saving mechanism.
bloodthorn + empower + rp can kill an alch
riki also provides unexpecteldy impressive damage lategame
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On April 04 2017 15:16 Salazarz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 15:14 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 15:13 Kavas wrote:On April 04 2017 15:11 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
weird things about this draft:
ig didnt take earthspirit 3rd pick when they could've
og took s4's hero 4th and left fly for last instead of vice versa Warlock is excellent versus TB so it's understandable. I don't like storm 4th pick though. Better pick a support then counterpick the mid. storm is actually alright this game they have 2 silence but that's about it that could stop storm How does Aghanim'd up Puck ulti interact with ball lightning? Doesn't it cancel it into stun or something? I actually feel proper newbish for not knowing this.
It shouldn't.
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On April 04 2017 15:16 Salazarz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 15:14 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 15:13 Kavas wrote:On April 04 2017 15:11 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
weird things about this draft:
ig didnt take earthspirit 3rd pick when they could've
og took s4's hero 4th and left fly for last instead of vice versa Warlock is excellent versus TB so it's understandable. I don't like storm 4th pick though. Better pick a support then counterpick the mid. storm is actually alright this game they have 2 silence but that's about it that could stop storm How does Aghanim'd up Puck ulti interact with ball lightning? Doesn't it cancel it into stun or something? I actually feel proper newbish for not knowing this.
it doesnt cancel it but he will be stunned as soon as he's out of the ball lightning
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On April 04 2017 15:16 Salazarz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 15:14 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 15:13 Kavas wrote:On April 04 2017 15:11 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
weird things about this draft:
ig didnt take earthspirit 3rd pick when they could've
og took s4's hero 4th and left fly for last instead of vice versa Warlock is excellent versus TB so it's understandable. I don't like storm 4th pick though. Better pick a support then counterpick the mid. storm is actually alright this game they have 2 silence but that's about it that could stop storm How does Aghanim'd up Puck ulti interact with ball lightning? Doesn't it cancel it into stun or something? I actually feel proper newbish for not knowing this.
storm would still probably complete the ball lightning but just lands stunned (i don't think you could stop mid balllightning at all)
storm can't be disabled mid ball lightning though he could land stunned
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Op's doing a really good job of keeping Alch down so far
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On April 04 2017 15:21 plasmidghost wrote:
Op's doing a really good job of keeping Alch down so far
so many denies
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But then again, iG can't punish Alch going to jungle
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It's quite even because of alch mechanic
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oh wow IG is trying to steal the camps lol
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IG is so prepared for this alch pick. Constantly stealing enemy jungle farm. Hopefully it's enough to stop this bullshit hero
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On April 04 2017 15:24 babysimba wrote:
IG is so prepared for this alch pick. Constantly stealing enemy jungle farm. Hopefully it's enough to stop this bullshit hero
it's really really not lol
idk i have overall bad results whenever i see fucking with jungling recently
feels like the offensive team always gives up more trying to do it
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Ah, the 0 dollar dream Carl
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boboka is actually so cancer
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It's 10 minutes in and iG still have all their T1s.
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11 minutes in.. This doesn't feel like a game without a kill
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On April 04 2017 15:26 goody153 wrote:
boboka is actually so cancer
but the good kind of cancer that gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside...
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Jugg stole half of a stacked camp. Storm stole a stacked camp. Riki stole around 1 camp in total here and there. If that's not enough, I don't know what can stop alch anymore
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On April 04 2017 15:28 nayumi wrote:but the good kind of cancer that gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside...
very warm
akin to a fireplace in a cold winters night
i hope he keep the fire up
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riki pick putting a lot of pressure on the OG supports.
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Thaat's an optimistic skewer.
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this is futile .. alch is getting fat
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On April 04 2017 15:29 babysimba wrote:
Jugg stole half of a stacked camp. Storm stole a stacked camp. Riki stole around 1 camp in total here and there. If that's not enough, I don't know what can stop alch anymore
seems that the case. just about to have min 14 armlet radiance.
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On April 04 2017 15:29 babysimba wrote:
Jugg stole half of a stacked camp. Storm stole a stacked camp. Riki stole around 1 camp in total here and there. If that's not enough, I don't know what can stop alch anymore
it's either kill him 5 times or it's not enough
fucking with a few of his camps is rly not a big deal
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as much as I love Boboka's Riki, I don't think it's gonna be enough against TB's push and Alchemist.
OG can take down all towers with 4 while Ana does his things. Then comes minute 30th and all of sudden everyone has a scepter.
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Damn this Magnus is drunk
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That was such a sick coil even though it missed.
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On April 04 2017 15:30 Snakesneaks wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 15:29 babysimba wrote:
Jugg stole half of a stacked camp. Storm stole a stacked camp. Riki stole around 1 camp in total here and there. If that's not enough, I don't know what can stop alch anymore seems that the case. just about to have min 14 armlet radiance.
make armlet and radiance more expensive .. nerf alch's greevils greed max stacks
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The pacing of the game seems way to slow for IG to stop Alches timings.
OG's draft, while greedy as fuck seems still so solid and tight through all stages of the game.
I have a hard time seeing IG take this baring some insane Storm plays and several huge RP's.
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On April 04 2017 15:33 MintberryCrunchs wrote:
The pacing of the game seems way to slow for IG to stop Alches timings.
OG's draft, while greedy as fuck seems still so solid and tight through all stages of the game.
I have a hard time seeing IG take this baring some insane Storm plays and several huge RP's.
i dont think its as hard as you think to get sufficiently decent rps this game
maybe im wrong though
another issue for og is tb's relative position in the networth chart
if tb isnt ahead of everyone, he isn't the same hero at all
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It's not possible to completely shut down alch in this meta anymore, with the nature of supports pick and double the amount of camps.
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This is some Tom and Jerry shit.
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Alright what the fuck s4.
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oh i know what this is
this is one of those s4 choke games
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Puck blinking to Smoke has got to tilt $4
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Not a fun game for puck, especially against riki
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i would've preferred if burning just went max dps and gone for mjolnir instead of diffusal
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On April 03 2017 20:46 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2017 20:41 goody153 wrote:On April 03 2017 20:37 MintberryCrunchs wrote:
This meta seems to be very narrow in terms of picks and possible playstyles.
I dont like it at all! it just seems like there's few playstyle with the alchemist/tinker/lina/jugg picks the fact that earthspirit and mk are just clearly a tier above all the other possible 4 heroes is an issue too tbh i think riki is sleeper op in that slot too but mk is still just ridiculous
im so proud of myself
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IG gonna take 1st game i feel
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On April 04 2017 15:40 goody153 wrote:
i would've preferred if burning just went max dps and gone for mjolnir instead of diffusal
diffusal is more dps for the cost, i think? esp with empower?
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On April 04 2017 15:39 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
oh i know what this is
this is one of those s4 choke games
There is a lot on his shoulders.
I was totally wrong IG is owning this ...
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OG feels very uncoordinated right now.
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woooooooooo
die alchemist die
On April 04 2017 15:39 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
oh i know what this is
this is one of those s4 choke games
i've seen worse s4 chokes with actually not that hard situation
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Holy crap this Riki is suddenly so rich $_$ MVP of this game for sure
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tb seems like a really dumb 2nd pick in retrospect
he's not like a venge or weaver core where it doesnt feel bad that he's 4k behind enemy cores because alch will aghs him up
being behind enemy cores on tb feels super fucking bad
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On April 04 2017 15:42 Salazarz wrote:
Holy crap this Riki is suddenly so rich $_$ MVP of this game for sure
this riki is gonna get banned next game if they're picking alch
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late game comeback incoming
i believe
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What do you guys think, will Riki offset the balance of this finals meta and force OG to differ from there strat?
I also think getting warlock for IG was brilliant, i bet OG was really hoping to get him under their belt.
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Boboka MVP so far.
He's using Riki like MK and getting a lot of harass and even putting odd wards here and there which is preempting OG's movement.
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empowered riki is gonna destroy OG
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i dont think riki's an every game hero
the hero has counters and counterplay
but og might ban it anyway
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On April 04 2017 15:43 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
tb seems like a really dumb 2nd pick in retrospect
he's not like a venge or weaver core where it doesnt feel bad that he's 4k behind enemy cores because alch will aghs him up
being behind enemy cores on tb feels super fucking bad
TB alch combo is meant to open up the map by downing towers fast, so it buy time for them mid game to farm up. Pretty common setup in previous tournaments.
The problem is the shit SD pick. You really can't pick supports that don't win lanes anymore which is part of the reason why the meta is so stale.
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i feel like with all those aggressive wards seeing alch alone .. they should've killed him
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factors why tb is not a comeback hero, especially against riki:
you need a good sunder to perform disproportionately relative to networth
you need bkb to get a good sunder in this kind of gamestate
you need to not buy bkb to have a chance in fights
ggnore
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Actually unwinnable for OG at this point.
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ana owes s4 a moonshard and agh for that play
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notail has bkb on quickbuy with a pike and yasha
feels
bad
man
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jugg isn't fat enough despite the free battlefury
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On April 04 2017 15:43 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
tb seems like a really dumb 2nd pick in retrospect
he's not like a venge or weaver core where it doesnt feel bad that he's 4k behind enemy cores because alch will aghs him up
being behind enemy cores on tb feels super fucking bad
This is OG's bread and butter though. They dream about getting TB Alchemist. It has to be figured out eventually. TB being behind still fulfills his roll for OG. A strong right clicker that can not be ignored and will wreck your base if you mess up.
This leaves IG in a good position for the rest of the games too if they win. They just have to ban Naga instead of both.
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I'm going to lose my mind if alch still wins this after how well IG played
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On April 04 2017 15:49 shouldbeworking wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 15:43 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
tb seems like a really dumb 2nd pick in retrospect
he's not like a venge or weaver core where it doesnt feel bad that he's 4k behind enemy cores because alch will aghs him up
being behind enemy cores on tb feels super fucking bad This is OG's bread and butter though. They dream about getting TB Alchemist. It has to be figured out eventually. TB being behind still fulfills his roll for OG. A strong right clicker that can not be ignored and will wreck your base if you mess up. This leaves IG in a good position for the rest of the games too if they win. They just have to ban Naga instead of both.
but they just won a completely dominant game with alch venge yesterday
i cant imagine tb is their most favored alch core partner
alch himself is the basewrecker if enemies mess up
i firmly believe alch is the only hero left in the game where you can draft a 4p1 and win
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oh lol 1k networth shadow demon in 34 minutes
but it won't matter alch's gonna give them all aghs and win
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man later on i still don't really see ig beating og :O og is like really great about playing lategame, and they have tb alch jesus christ <_>
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see it doesn't matter
CAUSE ALCHEMIST
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yea i mean even if ig wins here i think they should ban alch
this shits retarded
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this is so ridiculous
#deletealchemist
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Fucking icefrog. How can you indirectly buff alch the past 2 patch instead of nerfing it?
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ig also lost to og alch in the winners finals right?
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Alchemist being so strong is too much like real life. I'm not here to watch money overpower all other moral values man.
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burning needs more damage not bkb
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suddenly earthspirits equal networth with riki
great hero
lets take a hero balanced around reaching his power cap earlier and then raise the cap
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT THAT RP
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that's
why
you
ban
magnus
against
xxs
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HOLY SHIT THAT RP
but og still kinda come out of that ok with an aegis, probably gonna push down mid rax? @_@
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LUL it doesn't matter if you get everybody with a great rp
but one buyback alch murders everybody
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LOL fucken IG has to work so hard for this. I hope they don't lose to this cancer.
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That was a fight!
I feel that Alchemist's ult needs a longer cooldown. 25 seconds uptime followed by 20 second downtime is really stronk
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only alchemist can make a game look like winning even though the enemy team has been winning all fights
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On April 04 2017 15:58 goody153 wrote:
LUL it doesn't matter if you get everybody with a great rp
but one buyback alch murders everybody
well the murders were by puck...
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why ddi nobrain get the aegis wat
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On April 04 2017 15:59 WindWolf wrote:
That was a fight!
I feel that Alchemist's ult needs a longer cooldown. 25 seconds uptime followed by 20 second downtime is really stronk
the downtime is shorter than that cuz octameme
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I'm an OG haters after this
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Alch + puck 420 gpm.
$$$$ everywheree
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On April 04 2017 15:59 Geisterkarle wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 15:58 goody153 wrote:
LUL it doesn't matter if you get everybody with a great rp
but one buyback alch murders everybody well the murders were by puck...
i'm talking about after the RP
puck alone wouldn't do shit against a jugg storm that fat
only alchemist can run at them
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On April 04 2017 15:59 Wintex wrote:
why ddi nobrain get the aegis wat
Alchemist doesn't die so easily.
The teamfight in mid just proved my point. IG doesn't have enough DPS late game to bring down alchemist.
If it wasnt for Storm catching SD and XXS getting a 3 man RP IG wouldn't have killed alchemist.
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yea when its 21-8, multiple RPs landed perfectly, multiple 5 men wipes and you still feel the other team is going to win, something isn't right...
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On April 04 2017 15:56 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
suddenly earthspirits equal networth with riki
great hero
lets take a hero balanced around reaching his power cap earlier and then raise the cap
even worse. aghs is worse on the other team because XD
it really should occupy a slot in some way.
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On April 04 2017 15:59 Kavas wrote:Alchemist doesn't die so easily.
that's not the case
i don't think alch can actually drop anythiung
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Amazing how a farmed jugger doesn't actually manfight Alchemist that well.
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On April 04 2017 15:59 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 15:59 WindWolf wrote:
That was a fight!
I feel that Alchemist's ult needs a longer cooldown. 25 seconds uptime followed by 20 second downtime is really stronk the downtime is shorter than that cuz octameme
Oh yeah, I forgot about Ocatrine core. That makes me want an increased ult cooldown even more
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On April 04 2017 16:00 shouldbeworking wrote:
Amazing how a farmed jugger doesn't actually manfight Alchemist that well.
no mkb
and he can't really get mkb over anything .. maybe diffusal
if jugg has mkb and alch gets stunned at least once that hero is dead
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On April 04 2017 16:00 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 15:59 Kavas wrote:On April 04 2017 15:59 Wintex wrote:
why ddi nobrain get the aegis wat Alchemist doesn't die so easily. that's not the case i don't think alch can actually drop anythiung
he still has an armlet. aegis on him makes them not instalose if he dies the next 5 minutes.
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alright this sd aghs is actually a problem
ig needs to kill him first lol
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Damn, OG were really good at spreading out that fight
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On April 04 2017 16:01 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:00 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 15:59 Kavas wrote:On April 04 2017 15:59 Wintex wrote:
why ddi nobrain get the aegis wat Alchemist doesn't die so easily. that's not the case i don't think alch can actually drop anythiung he still has an armlet. aegis on him makes them not instalose if he dies the next 5 minutes.
oh yeah didn't notice that
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Yeah, fuck Alchemist. Ban him into the ground Icefrog.
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jugg gets low slowly over the course of teh fight
alch does not and tb has sunder and aegis
this shits sooooooooo cancer
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Yeah Icefrog should really stop listening to reddit for aghanim's updates upgrades. Being able to funnel gold to your team is just such a broken mechanic. Now moonshard too. The fact that alchemist plateaus at some point is the balancing factor to his gold generation.
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lol well plaayed from OG core merlini said...
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Icefrog is taking notes right now. No Alchemist at TI7 boys!!! Thanks DAC
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On April 04 2017 16:03 shouldbeworking wrote:
Icefrog is taking notes right now. No Alchemist at TI7 boys!!! Thanks DAC
i doubt he'd actually nerf alch knowing how he's been patching for years
he'll probably just misdirect the attention to another hero
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IG need to win this after having such a good lead and also playing amazing.
Lost this, tilting, not a fun grand final anymore
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this sd respawn timer talent is pretty fucking cancer too
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On April 04 2017 16:04 brinepumps wrote:
IG need to win this after having such a good lead and also playing amazing.
Lost this, tilting, not a fun grand final anymore
OG will just scale better
IG is almost close to their peak of their heroes
you know alch is broken when a staple carry with magnus cleave can't actually manfight the hero
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On April 04 2017 16:04 brinepumps wrote:
IG need to win this after having such a good lead and also playing amazing.
Lost this, tilting, not a fun grand final anymore
IG lose this, they will lose the whole series.
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this patch is just stupid. average per game must be 45+mins for this patch
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They talk like Alch is a do nothing hero once he is capped , its not true , he is still a beast.
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I wished Puck would have gotten the 420 GPM talent
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Haha, that thing is actually invincible, wow
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I don't see IG winning anymore without rapier. Such bullshit
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anas like selfstunned over 10 times in fights and it doesnt even matter
ult hp regen haha
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On April 04 2017 16:06 shouldbeworking wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:04 brinepumps wrote:
IG need to win this after having such a good lead and also playing amazing.
Lost this, tilting, not a fun grand final anymore IG lose this, they will lose the whole series.
yeah i think that's what'll happen as well D:
close to time to sleep for me anyway, so i guess it's just bedtime after this, spare the ;_;
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lol don't ban alchemist
that's what they said
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This shrek is invincible sheesh
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They must leave him alone , they cannot kill him with all of their burst , he needs to stay last...... that hero is a disguting as it gets , probably last time we see.
Also OP is jumping in without BKB into the autocasted Hex is not helping them.
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
didnt they learn in the winners finals xd
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On April 04 2017 16:11 ahswtini wrote:
didnt they learn in the winners finals xd
they thought they could beat alchemist LUL
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IG not banning alchemist, what's the definition of insanity again?
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This is a shitty game, fuck Alch
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that's not gonna matter
storm has no buyback .. and IG can't push
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burning is actually playing really well
i don't remember any big mistakes for him the entire game
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This game feels so fucking unfair lol
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IG needs rapier on both jugg and storm. Need more damageeeeee
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ig
melee rax isnt your objective
alch was your objective
man up and skewer back the alch and go all in on him...
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On April 04 2017 16:17 goody153 wrote:
burning is actually playing really well
Yeah he's been making up for some of the storm's awful screw ups
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Hahah all that just for a melee racks. This game isn't even close to over. Even if IG wins they are not going to want to deal with this alche or naga bullshit again
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On April 04 2017 16:17 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
ig
melee rax isnt your objective
alch was your objective
man up and skewer back the alch and go all in on him...
COOLDOWN
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what makes alch ult really broken is the movespeed .. if he doesn't move almost 522 he's probably alot more killable r
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On April 04 2017 16:17 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
ig
melee rax isnt your objective
alch was your objective
man up and skewer back the alch and go all in on him...
2 supports can save alc life
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On April 04 2017 16:17 babysimba wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:17 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
ig
melee rax isnt your objective
alch was your objective
man up and skewer back the alch and go all in on him... COOLDOWN
i didnt say rp i said skewer lol
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On April 04 2017 16:18 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:17 babysimba wrote:On April 04 2017 16:17 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
ig
melee rax isnt your objective
alch was your objective
man up and skewer back the alch and go all in on him... COOLDOWN i didnt say rp i said skewer lol
COOLDOWN
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62 minutes in, SD gets his first big item 
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On April 04 2017 16:18 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:17 babysimba wrote:On April 04 2017 16:17 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
ig
melee rax isnt your objective
alch was your objective
man up and skewer back the alch and go all in on him... COOLDOWN i didnt say rp i said skewer lol
Mag actually tried it, but missed
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watching OG picking alch is irritating as fuck
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YESD FVIUCK YOEDRIKOUJ tyhsdfaofghjadsp;
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IGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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ASDFASDFLKASDJFLKSAFL;SJDFLKASDJFL;KSDJFLK;SADF
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hey ana
why are you trying to save your shadow demon
LMFAO
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JUSTICE !!!
FUCK YOU ANA !!!
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FUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUU ALCHEMISSSSSSSSSSSSST
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JUSTICEE !!!
FUCK OG !!!
FUCK ANA !!!
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PUBLIC ENEMY #1 ALCH IS DOWN.
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ALCH REKT TODAY IS A GOOD DAY
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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holy shit this is gonna be good
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what if og threw it so alch won't be nerfed
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lmao IG should've won a long time ago if that wasn't alch
just fucking ban that fucking alch
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so glad that alchemist lost
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okay IG the stunt is over now can you not trouble yourselft with not banning alch ? tq
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What a stack of teamfighting heroes, yikes. OG did well to hold on so long.
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lol watching yyf stream. xxs actually means primary school kid
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Man i wanted OG to win , BUT THAT ALCH IS SOOOOOOOO DISGUSTING!!!!!!!! I CANT ROOT FOR THIS !!!! LETS GO OG PICK SOMETHING ELSE!
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I fucking hope the crowd jeer those fuckers Alche pickers
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Yeah no way iG lets alchemist through again after this game, even though they won it
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On April 04 2017 16:20 Vertical wrote:
FUCK YOU OG FUCK YOU !!!
Dude chill a little bit we know it by now;)
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On April 04 2017 16:21 snow2.0 wrote:
What a stack of teamfighting heroes, yikes. OG did well to hold on so long.
what are you on about
IG was the one trying to hold .. it doesn't matter how behind OG is so long as they have alchemist
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On April 04 2017 16:20 juff wrote:
what if og threw it so alch won't be nerfed
This is what I was afraid of. They have their eyes on Kiev, don't be fooled!
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Thank you IG for saving us peasant spectators from boring grand final
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Kinda cool if a Chinese win at their own home tournament. Also Burning god!
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Thank god ana played like absolute dog shit
It's like liquid's Naga, you can be outplayed by a factor of fifty thousand and still come this close to winning with these heroes.
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remember guys if you think alchemist isn't broken
IG only won cause alch went out to save SD rofl
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OP MVP? Debatably it was Boboka or Xxs
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I think most people at this point are sick of og winning so much, i cant be the only one. Makes it easy to root against them too if they pick alch, terror. And bgod hype of course.
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On April 04 2017 16:26 goody153 wrote:
remember guys if you think alchemist isn't broken
IG only won cause alch went out to save SD rofl
it was actually earthspirit, my bad, but yea
idk
felt like og wasnt playing top tier dota at any point in the game
but lol alchemist
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Change illusions
Change Alchemist
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OG is still a cheese team to me. havent changed my mind since frankfurt major
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On April 04 2017 16:26 Caladbolg wrote:
OP MVP? Debatably it was Boboka or Xxs
Xxs is probably tournament MVP imo
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On April 04 2017 16:26 hunter_x wrote:
I think most people at this point are sick of og winning so much, i cant be the only one. Makes it easy to root against them too if they pick alch, terror. And bgod hype of course.
i dont mind seeing them win when they pick stuff like elder titan
i mind seeing them win with this bullshit watching ana stun himself more often than he stuns enemies and still winning fights cuz he pressed the ulti button, the manta button, and ran at stuff
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 04 2017 16:28 Ultimo Hombre wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:26 Caladbolg wrote:
OP MVP? Debatably it was Boboka or Xxs Xxs is probably tournament MVP imo
Can I nominate Naga or Alch?
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On April 04 2017 16:25 uriel- wrote:
Thank god ana played like absolute dog shit
It's like liquid's Naga, you can be outplayed by a factor of fifty thousand and still come this close to winning with these heroes. The outplay is often due to decisions to buy time, oft times outnumbered. DotA is also about timings.
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On April 04 2017 16:27 an00bis wrote:
Change illusions
Change Alchemist
illusions aren't the suspect
alchemist is with that crazy scaling he has midgame
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 04 2017 16:27 an00bis wrote:
Change illusions
Change Alchemist
Stop the 1%
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On April 04 2017 16:26 Caladbolg wrote:
OP MVP? Debatably it was Boboka or Xxs
WHAT?!
Alche hands down MVP
hold out the whole team that long
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On April 04 2017 16:29 stuchiu wrote:Stop the 1%
communism #1
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On April 04 2017 16:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:26 goody153 wrote:
remember guys if you think alchemist isn't broken
IG only won cause alch went out to save SD rofl it was actually earthspirit, my bad, but yea idk felt like og wasnt playing top tier dota at any point in the game but lol alchemist
OG save s4 was outplayed all throughout the game and they could easily have won that. I mean, just draft something better than SD and they win. Like, Dazzle or something.
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On April 04 2017 16:30 Caladbolg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On April 04 2017 16:26 goody153 wrote:
remember guys if you think alchemist isn't broken
IG only won cause alch went out to save SD rofl it was actually earthspirit, my bad, but yea idk felt like og wasnt playing top tier dota at any point in the game but lol alchemist OG save s4 was outplayed all throughout the game and they could easily have won that. I mean, just draft something better than SD and they win. Like, Dazzle or something.
SD actually helped bigtime being a alchemist illusion factory for OG
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On April 04 2017 16:29 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:25 uriel- wrote:
Thank god ana played like absolute dog shit
It's like liquid's Naga, you can be outplayed by a factor of fifty thousand and still come this close to winning with these heroes. The outplay is often due to decisions to buy time, oft times outnumbered. DotA is also about timings.
No, alch doesnt care about dota rules;)
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On April 04 2017 16:30 Caladbolg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On April 04 2017 16:26 goody153 wrote:
remember guys if you think alchemist isn't broken
IG only won cause alch went out to save SD rofl it was actually earthspirit, my bad, but yea idk felt like og wasnt playing top tier dota at any point in the game but lol alchemist OG save s4 was outplayed all throughout the game and they could easily have won that. I mean, just draft something better than SD and they win. Like, Dazzle or something.
? im not sure dazzle was better than sd there
i guess dazzle contributes slightly more in situations where he's hunted down with bloodthorn because he can pre weave, but in situations other than that, i'm pretty sure 3 demonic purges was more important than grave in most of those fights. and disruption was useful for making illus
also don't get how s4 was an exception at all
he made tons of questionable blinks and got caught out questionably a lot, and a lot of his contribution was predicated on the fact that he got a free aghs so his ult was op
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On April 04 2017 16:30 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:30 Caladbolg wrote:On April 04 2017 16:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On April 04 2017 16:26 goody153 wrote:
remember guys if you think alchemist isn't broken
IG only won cause alch went out to save SD rofl it was actually earthspirit, my bad, but yea idk felt like og wasnt playing top tier dota at any point in the game but lol alchemist OG save s4 was outplayed all throughout the game and they could easily have won that. I mean, just draft something better than SD and they win. Like, Dazzle or something. SD actually helped bigtime being a alchemist illusion factory for OG
Most of his illusions died pretty quickly, and they stole farm from Alch since SD gets the gold.
If Fly drafted weaver for himself, IG would have lost so badly.
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On April 04 2017 16:31 hunter_x wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On April 04 2017 16:25 uriel- wrote:
Thank god ana played like absolute dog shit
It's like liquid's Naga, you can be outplayed by a factor of fifty thousand and still come this close to winning with these heroes. The outplay is often due to decisions to buy time, oft times outnumbered. DotA is also about timings. No, alch doesnt care about dota rules;) Jugg had more farm.
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invictus gaming with the chemotherapy
lesgo iG!!
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On April 04 2017 16:31 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:30 Caladbolg wrote:On April 04 2017 16:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On April 04 2017 16:26 goody153 wrote:
remember guys if you think alchemist isn't broken
IG only won cause alch went out to save SD rofl it was actually earthspirit, my bad, but yea idk felt like og wasnt playing top tier dota at any point in the game but lol alchemist OG save s4 was outplayed all throughout the game and they could easily have won that. I mean, just draft something better than SD and they win. Like, Dazzle or something. ? im not sure dazzle was better than sd there i guess dazzle contributes slightly more in situations where he's hunted down with bloodthorn because he can pre weave, but in situations other than that, i'm pretty sure 3 demonic purges was more important than grave in most of those fights. and disruption was useful for making illus
who cares about graves when you're basically unkillable with weave
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I feel IG has an Edge in the draft know, just because of how game 1 went.
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On April 04 2017 16:32 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:31 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 16:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On April 04 2017 16:25 uriel- wrote:
Thank god ana played like absolute dog shit
It's like liquid's Naga, you can be outplayed by a factor of fifty thousand and still come this close to winning with these heroes. The outplay is often due to decisions to buy time, oft times outnumbered. DotA is also about timings. No, alch doesnt care about dota rules;) Jugg had more farm.
no he didnt? the networth graph transfers networth when aghs are gifted
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On April 04 2017 16:32 Caladbolg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:30 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 16:30 Caladbolg wrote:On April 04 2017 16:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On April 04 2017 16:26 goody153 wrote:
remember guys if you think alchemist isn't broken
IG only won cause alch went out to save SD rofl it was actually earthspirit, my bad, but yea idk felt like og wasnt playing top tier dota at any point in the game but lol alchemist OG save s4 was outplayed all throughout the game and they could easily have won that. I mean, just draft something better than SD and they win. Like, Dazzle or something. SD actually helped bigtime being a alchemist illusion factory for OG Most of his illusions died pretty quickly, and they stole farm from Alch since SD gets the gold. If Fly drafted weaver for himself, IG would have lost so badly.
what ? there's no way alch would be enough to hold the creepwave with just 2 illusions .. SD helped wiping the creepwave and giving vision
they started dying fast but 2 vs 5 illusions it's pretty easy to see which is better
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On April 04 2017 16:32 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:31 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 16:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On April 04 2017 16:25 uriel- wrote:
Thank god ana played like absolute dog shit
It's like liquid's Naga, you can be outplayed by a factor of fifty thousand and still come this close to winning with these heroes. The outplay is often due to decisions to buy time, oft times outnumbered. DotA is also about timings. No, alch doesnt care about dota rules;) Jugg had more farm.
Only because alch gifted shit to everyone, you can put +15k on his net wort. You still normally cant kill him.
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No naga
No alchemist
Seems good
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YESSS OG BANNED IT THAT'S HONORABLE UH HUH
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3 illusion heroes banned.
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oh shit og enig and ig mag :O
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On April 04 2017 16:32 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:31 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 16:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On April 04 2017 16:25 uriel- wrote:
Thank god ana played like absolute dog shit
It's like liquid's Naga, you can be outplayed by a factor of fifty thousand and still come this close to winning with these heroes. The outplay is often due to decisions to buy time, oft times outnumbered. DotA is also about timings. No, alch doesnt care about dota rules;) Jugg had more farm.
networth doesn't count the given aghs
and he gave like 3 aghs so add 12600 to the networth of alch
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On April 04 2017 16:34 Caladbolg wrote:
YESSS OG BANNED IT THAT'S HONORABLE UH HUH
they didnt want to eat their own shit
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lol OG banned alch themselves .. but i don't remember IG playing alch
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Vatican City State1573 Posts
Xxs please beat that son of magnus with magnus himself
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On April 04 2017 16:34 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:32 Caladbolg wrote:On April 04 2017 16:30 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 16:30 Caladbolg wrote:On April 04 2017 16:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On April 04 2017 16:26 goody153 wrote:
remember guys if you think alchemist isn't broken
IG only won cause alch went out to save SD rofl it was actually earthspirit, my bad, but yea idk felt like og wasnt playing top tier dota at any point in the game but lol alchemist OG save s4 was outplayed all throughout the game and they could easily have won that. I mean, just draft something better than SD and they win. Like, Dazzle or something. SD actually helped bigtime being a alchemist illusion factory for OG Most of his illusions died pretty quickly, and they stole farm from Alch since SD gets the gold. If Fly drafted weaver for himself, IG would have lost so badly. what ? there's no way alch would be enough to hold the creepwave with just 2 illusions .. SD helped wiping the creepwave and giving vision they started dying fast but 2 vs 5 illusions it's pretty easy to see which is better
The better illusions to drag the creepwave away were those TB illusions. SD illus helped, definitely, but it wasn't indispensable to their strategy.
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not a fan of this first pick lina
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On April 04 2017 16:33 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:32 Dracolich70 wrote:On April 04 2017 16:31 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 16:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On April 04 2017 16:25 uriel- wrote:
Thank god ana played like absolute dog shit
It's like liquid's Naga, you can be outplayed by a factor of fifty thousand and still come this close to winning with these heroes. The outplay is often due to decisions to buy time, oft times outnumbered. DotA is also about timings. No, alch doesnt care about dota rules;) Jugg had more farm. no he didnt? the networth graph transfers networth when aghs are gifted And the overall networth was about even before the end fight that ended the game.
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On April 04 2017 16:35 goody153 wrote:
lol OG banned alch themselves .. but i don't remember IG playing alch
they just destroyed nb with it in g1 of that series
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On April 04 2017 16:35 goody153 wrote:
lol OG banned alch themselves .. but i don't remember IG playing alch
iG played alch in the losers finals vs newbee i believe
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On April 04 2017 16:36 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:33 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On April 04 2017 16:32 Dracolich70 wrote:On April 04 2017 16:31 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 16:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On April 04 2017 16:25 uriel- wrote:
Thank god ana played like absolute dog shit
It's like liquid's Naga, you can be outplayed by a factor of fifty thousand and still come this close to winning with these heroes. The outplay is often due to decisions to buy time, oft times outnumbered. DotA is also about timings. No, alch doesnt care about dota rules;) Jugg had more farm. no he didnt? the networth graph transfers networth when aghs are gifted And the overall networth was about even before the end fight that ended the game.
i have no clue what you're getting at, so i'll just leave your series of non sequiturs alone
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On April 04 2017 16:37 Aerisky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:35 goody153 wrote:
lol OG banned alch themselves .. but i don't remember IG playing alch iG played alch in the losers finals vs newbee i believe
On April 04 2017 16:36 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:35 goody153 wrote:
lol OG banned alch themselves .. but i don't remember IG playing alch they just destroyed nb with it in g1 of that series
oh they play it as well
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Fly is really taking his time with the 3rd ban
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On April 04 2017 16:35 goody153 wrote:
lol OG banned alch themselves .. but i don't remember IG playing alch
IG destroyed NB with it in a very dirty manner this morning. 1238 GPM by OP. And OP dodged his self-stuns.
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coward bastards OG pick alche but scared facing it
boohooooo
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On April 04 2017 16:37 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:37 Aerisky wrote:On April 04 2017 16:35 goody153 wrote:
lol OG banned alch themselves .. but i don't remember IG playing alch iG played alch in the losers finals vs newbee i believe Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:36 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On April 04 2017 16:35 goody153 wrote:
lol OG banned alch themselves .. but i don't remember IG playing alch they just destroyed nb with it in g1 of that series oh they play it as well
i think it was actually important that they demonstrate that they were able to play it
letting it slip that they can't play alch would've been a pretty big draft disadvantage
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On April 04 2017 16:38 Vertical wrote:
coward bastards OG pick alche but scared facing it
boohooooo
i don't think anybody should let alch through
IG is not smart enough last game
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On April 04 2017 16:38 Vertical wrote:
coward bastards OG pick alche but scared facing it
boohooooo
Wow teams drafting according to what they feel is strong booohooooo
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On April 04 2017 16:38 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:38 Vertical wrote:
coward bastards OG pick alche but scared facing it
boohooooo i don't think anybody should let alch through IG is not smart enough last game
pls let me hate OG in peace
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Aww banned AM. I wanted AM this game. Does well vs Jugg.
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On April 04 2017 16:39 Vertical wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:38 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 16:38 Vertical wrote:
coward bastards OG pick alche but scared facing it
boohooooo i don't think anybody should let alch through IG is not smart enough last game pls let me hate OG in peace
oops sorry xD
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Firstphase Enigma + Jugg only to deny IG really seems like a loosing formula for for OG.
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And there is the invoker from OG!
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riki could cockblock smoke enigma/warlock before they mess up the fights
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On April 04 2017 16:38 Vertical wrote:
coward bastards OG pick alche but scared facing it
boohooooo
That's some serious hate.
Chill, man, let's enjoy the game
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empowered spectre
i've not seen that before
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i wouldve actually have liked to see a burning faceless void here
oh well
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Hah called it. Anavoker. Can be godly, can feed. 50/50 for OG IMO.
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On April 04 2017 16:42 brinepumps wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:38 Vertical wrote:
coward bastards OG pick alche but scared facing it
boohooooo That's some serious hate. Chill, man, let's enjoy the game
there's no fun watching just for the game
you got to root for someone or hate on someone
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I dont get the Alch hate... There have been counters in the past and he was considered really weak just a year ago and there are still tools against him. OG sacrificed a lot to let the Alch farm which lost them the early game hard and lost them the game in the end, and honestly not many teams would be able to even get there the last game, if not only them. And the last tool is just banning alch, but IG focused on something else.
And watch the game now if OG dominates them, my point is valid.
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I don't understand why iG last-banned Pudge. Am I missing something but I don't feel OG would have wanted a Pudge
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man this is a great rubick game
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On April 04 2017 16:38 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:37 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 16:37 Aerisky wrote:On April 04 2017 16:35 goody153 wrote:
lol OG banned alch themselves .. but i don't remember IG playing alch iG played alch in the losers finals vs newbee i believe On April 04 2017 16:36 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On April 04 2017 16:35 goody153 wrote:
lol OG banned alch themselves .. but i don't remember IG playing alch they just destroyed nb with it in g1 of that series oh they play it as well i think it was actually important that they demonstrate that they were able to play it letting it slip that they can't play alch would've been a pretty big draft disadvantage
yeah good point tbh, people were saying earlier also that it doesn't really fit iG's playstyle, but they picked it anyway, and it makes sense that that iG would want to demonstrate their aptitude playing with it
dayum that respect ban on antimage?! also oh snap ana on invoker... also, loving the burning spectre and rubick picks, but og also looks like a 25 min victory team
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On April 04 2017 16:44 rund1me wrote:
I dont get the Alch hate... There have been counters in the past and he was considered really weak just a year ago and there are still tools against him. OG sacrificed a lot to let the Alch farm which lost them the early game hard and lost them the game in the end, and honestly not many teams would be able to even get there the last game, if not only them. And the last tool is just banning alch, but IG focused on something else.
And watch the game now if OG dominates them, my point is valid.
we have a badass over here
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i think ig's draft is shit here and they lost
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Another really greedy draft from OG. Cent for Jerax?
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invoker, enigma, warlock, centaur
ez rubick game
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Stampede to counter haunt O.O
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On April 04 2017 16:45 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i think ig's draft is shit here and they lost
Why? They can spam down waves with Lina and Rubick. They have Mag for a really good initiation. Riki to delay Anavoker.
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After some great RP's last game, thought Magnus would be OG's first ban along with MK
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On April 04 2017 16:45 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i think ig's draft is shit here and they lost
i don't feel the spectre pick much .. too many nukes
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I favor OG draft as well but their pre-blink initiation is a bit weak.
Also, OP is really experienced in Lina vs Invoker so IG might snowball.
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On April 04 2017 16:46 babysimba wrote:
Stampede to counter haunt O.O
how? run like headless chicken the moment haunt sound plays?
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On April 04 2017 16:47 Caladbolg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:45 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i think ig's draft is shit here and they lost
Why? They can spam down waves with Lina and Rubick. They have Mag for a really good initiation. Riki to delay Anavoker.
i think og is stronger in 5v5 engagements, i think they will win the laning phase, and i dont think ig has a way to win this game without taking 5v5 engagements
maybe i'm wrong
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wait was MK and earthspirit banned ?
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On April 04 2017 16:47 Caladbolg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:45 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i think ig's draft is shit here and they lost
Why? They can spam down waves with Lina and Rubick. They have Mag for a really good initiation. Riki to delay Anavoker.
If he plays invoker like alchemist he will miss 80% of his spells anyway
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On April 04 2017 16:48 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:47 Caladbolg wrote:On April 04 2017 16:45 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i think ig's draft is shit here and they lost
Why? They can spam down waves with Lina and Rubick. They have Mag for a really good initiation. Riki to delay Anavoker. i think og is stronger in 5v5 engagements, i think they will win the laning phase, and i dont think ig has a way to win this game without taking 5v5 engagements maybe i'm wrong
Agree with you on the first part, but I I think IG is stronger in the lanes, not because of the heroes but because of the players.
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Vatican City State1573 Posts
ez game boboka , poor fly will going 30 mins with a boot and wards
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boboka gives me a warm fuzzy feeling on how he's playing riki
also the sound is gone
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China quality sound system
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Why did PGL have to hire the NASL sound guy?
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global silence ongoing
also those cheers are great
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so this is what it feels like to watch live pub with thousands of spectators
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Global silence ana had no chance
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Solo kill by OP Lina. Man he is just so good with this hero.
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On April 04 2017 16:51 Caladbolg wrote:
Solo kill by OP Lina. Man he is just so good with this hero.
You don't need skill to win 1v1 with lina. Mid game is another thing
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On April 04 2017 16:51 Caladbolg wrote:
Solo kill by OP Lina. Man he is just so good with this hero.
lina owns invoker if played right
but yeah it's one of OP's heroes
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LMFAO that malefice on the centaur
okay i was wrong ig wins this EASY GAME
anas a choker jerax is a choker gg
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Was there a little bit of tension between Purge and PPD?
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and dont forget ana's vulnerability in 1v1 early laning
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Ana invoker lol
Boboka riki pogcha....
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On April 04 2017 16:52 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:51 Caladbolg wrote:
Solo kill by OP Lina. Man he is just so good with this hero. lina owns invoker if played right but yeah it's one of OP's heroes
Yeah but getting solo killed is never really justified in a 1v1.
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OG just got pick baited themself
after game one the have no choice but to ban Alche
banning alche means only banning one of mag, riki, one of OP hero, MK
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Ana never tilts anyway. He's used to losing lane xD
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Op is just the better player. Simple as that.
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On April 04 2017 16:53 Danzo wrote:
Was there a little bit of tension between Purge and PPD?
Thought the same. I wonder why.
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On April 04 2017 16:54 babysimba wrote:
Ana never tilts anyway. He's used to losing lane xD
doesn't matter if you don't tilt if you have 1k net worth as solo mid
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Op was already a better laner and now that he has lina vs invoker.
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On April 04 2017 16:55 TomatoBisque wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:54 babysimba wrote:
Ana never tilts anyway. He's used to losing lane xD doesn't matter if you don't tilt if you have 1k net worth as solo mid
it actually matters a lot
if this was a pub game itd be recoverable
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Ana sunstrike game not on point
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not quite Suma1l's sun strike
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On April 04 2017 16:48 Vertical wrote:how? run like headless chicken the moment haunt sound plays?
pressing r with aghs stampede heavily mitigates haunt dmg i believe
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On April 04 2017 16:57 Vertical wrote:
not quite Suma1l's sun strike
You spelled miracle wrong
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There is just nothing going right for OG here.
We might be in for a quick 3 - 0 today, up til now, IG seems to be one step ahead in every aspect.
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On April 04 2017 16:57 Aerisky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:48 Vertical wrote:On April 04 2017 16:46 babysimba wrote:
Stampede to counter haunt O.O how? run like headless chicken the moment haunt sound plays? pressing r with aghs stampede heavily mitigates haunt dmg i believe
yea
even if it got nerfed from 60% to 40% damage reduction ni quick succession, i still think that shit's op
still consider a centaur 3 a top tier hero in almost any lineup
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Ana should have used alacrity on s4 there for the kill
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Jerax is going to tilt more than Ana at this rate. Getting bullied by Riki whole game, misses spectre kill by 1 hit after spending BH
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On April 04 2017 16:59 traumatism wrote:
Ana should have used alacrity on s4 there for the kill
jerax you mean?
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On April 04 2017 17:00 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:59 traumatism wrote:
Ana should have used alacrity on s4 there for the kill jerax you mean?
no, ana is playing invoker
:^)
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Nobrain...what did he expect?
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Invoker midas online. Time for his midgame comeback.
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On April 04 2017 16:58 hunter_x wrote:You spelled miracle wrong
M1racle didnt stays in the tournament long enough for me to saw his sun strikes
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YOOOOO BASICALLY A TEAM WIPE BY IG :O
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Holy shit what a play by iG
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OG is tilting.
Why the fuck they give them riki and magnus again. 
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Holy shit OP perfect decision.
S4 nearly saving that fight.
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Didn't like OP's Storm much, but wow is his Lina legit or what
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On April 04 2017 17:03 Vertical wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:58 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 16:57 Vertical wrote:
not quite Suma1l's sun strike You spelled miracle wrong M1racle didnt stays in the tournament long enough for me to saw his sun strikes
Still best invoker;)
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Hey waga what you say about this lina?
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On April 04 2017 17:04 hunter_x wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:03 Vertical wrote:On April 04 2017 16:58 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 16:57 Vertical wrote:
not quite Suma1l's sun strike You spelled miracle wrong M1racle didnt stays in the tournament long enough for me to saw his sun strikes Still best invoker;)
I think Sumail invoker was better this tournament
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I think OG going to take this. Invoker can never be shut down. Midas + shameless ksing with sunstrike = $
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On April 04 2017 17:03 MintberryCrunchs wrote:OG is tilting. Why the fuck they give them riki and magnus again.
they're afraid of their own creation the imb4 alche
and they prioritize banning MK
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ANA having the worst injoker game
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q dont lift rp/skewered targets that looks so ugly
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On April 04 2017 17:05 Danzo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:04 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 17:03 Vertical wrote:On April 04 2017 16:58 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 16:57 Vertical wrote:
not quite Suma1l's sun strike You spelled miracle wrong M1racle didnt stays in the tournament long enough for me to saw his sun strikes Still best invoker;) I think Sumail invoker was better this tournament
thats what im trying to say to him
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On April 04 2017 17:05 Danzo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:04 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 17:03 Vertical wrote:On April 04 2017 16:58 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 16:57 Vertical wrote:
not quite Suma1l's sun strike You spelled miracle wrong M1racle didnt stays in the tournament long enough for me to saw his sun strikes Still best invoker;) I think Sumail invoker was better this tournament
Well the thing is, its banned every game against liquid. The one ivoker game miracle had he was like 23/0/15
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Alright let's go. Hit the radiance timing and end the game
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Icefrog nerf lina respawn talent already, good god
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On April 04 2017 17:00 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 16:59 traumatism wrote:
Ana should have used alacrity on s4 there for the kill jerax you mean?
My bad yeah Jerax
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OH MY FUCK OP'S LINA IS ASLDFJAKF
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This OP guy playing an OP hero is a bit OP
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Holyshit OP that last sec stun
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IG is actually really good at dodging sun strikes tbh
You always see them turn away from it when it's coming down
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This is so heartbreaking for OG!
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lul what is ana doing there
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>pick off lina
grats on ur gold and exp but sry u just lost ur cds
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SECRET STRATS. STACKING AQUILA ON RIKI
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On April 04 2017 17:10 MintberryCrunchs wrote:
This is so heartbreaking for OG!
Why lol? This is just DAC. What happened at TI6 was heartbreaking!!
On that note. Go IG. Go BGods
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Uhhhh Boboka?
Is he planning to tank the entire omnislash?
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On April 04 2017 17:10 brinepumps wrote:
Wtf happened to OG
to utilize cancer, one must suffer from it
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hey boboka has 150 damage without magnus buff and backstab accounted lol
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On April 04 2017 17:11 Kavas wrote:
Uhhhh Boboka?
Is he planning to tank the entire omnislash?
It's for maximising damage per hit
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On April 04 2017 17:12 babysimba wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:11 Kavas wrote:
Uhhhh Boboka?
Is he planning to tank the entire omnislash? It's for maximising damage per hit
diffusal is already plenty efficient
i think all things considered (the 40 damage per hit due to manaburn), the agi, diffusal might actually be more cost efficient than aquila
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On April 04 2017 17:11 shouldbeworking wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:10 MintberryCrunchs wrote:
This is so heartbreaking for OG!
Why lol? This is just DAC. What happened at TI6 was heartbreaking!! On that note. Go IG. Go BGods
*cough* TNC'ed *cough*
but they're the most major title holders
so they can go home and store their tears on those trophies
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B R U H BURNING!?!?!!
LOL who's the caster who said "ohh boyy" HAHAHA
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iG has gotten really lucky with some of these escapes.
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ig deserves to win this final. sick plays
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It's still +7 dmg and + 3 agility per aquila so pretty much a claw of attack for the same price I guess
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On April 04 2017 17:11 shouldbeworking wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:10 MintberryCrunchs wrote:
This is so heartbreaking for OG!
Why lol? This is just DAC. What happened at TI6 was heartbreaking!! On that note. Go IG. Go BGods
From the grand perspective - sure, TI6 was way more heartbreaking.
But i dont think there can be more bad luck in a single game then OG has in this game.
Burning escape during the rosh fight is just another of countless examples.
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IG got good margins in every fight.
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ummmm OG without illu spammers? lol
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On April 04 2017 17:14 MintberryCrunchs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:11 shouldbeworking wrote:On April 04 2017 17:10 MintberryCrunchs wrote:
This is so heartbreaking for OG!
Why lol? This is just DAC. What happened at TI6 was heartbreaking!! On that note. Go IG. Go BGods From the grand perspective - sure, TI6 was way more heartbreaking. But i dont think there can be more bad luck in a single game then OG has in this game. Burning escape during the rosh fight is just another of countless examples.
Well normally og os the team who is always lucky, its only fair
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On April 04 2017 17:14 MintberryCrunchs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:11 shouldbeworking wrote:On April 04 2017 17:10 MintberryCrunchs wrote:
This is so heartbreaking for OG!
Why lol? This is just DAC. What happened at TI6 was heartbreaking!! On that note. Go IG. Go BGods From the grand perspective - sure, TI6 was way more heartbreaking. But i dont think there can be more bad luck in a single game then OG has in this game. Burning escape during the rosh fight is just another of countless examples.
Luck is No excuse. :p
kidding aside, specs ult really helps IG set up their team fight nicely.
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I haven't seen OG get this man handled in a looooooong time.
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hey guys remember when i said hey guys remember yesterday when i said riki is sleeper op?
somebody acknowledge me
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Og fans crying about luck? If they get this 1 or 2 kills that doesnt even change much.
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On April 04 2017 17:16 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
hey guys remember when i said hey guys remember yesterday when i said riki is sleeper op?
somebody acknowledge me
i member
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On April 04 2017 17:16 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
hey guys remember when i said hey guys remember yesterday when i said riki is sleeper op?
somebody acknowledge me
acknowledging
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On April 04 2017 17:16 Danzo wrote:
I haven't seen OG get this man handled in a looooooong time.
the one game ig took off og in WB finals was actually even stompier
og was doing some experimental draft shit though
On April 04 2017 17:17 TomatoBisque wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:16 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
hey guys remember when i said hey guys remember yesterday when i said riki is sleeper op?
somebody acknowledge me acknowledging
ty
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Let's be real, I'm just happy because PPD was right and Cap and Purge was left
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i dont know how if feels to lose against riki with singsing build in grandfinal
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Either OG ban Magnus or pick him for s4.
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holy shit IG is styling OG
give us a 3-0 IG
make us feel that OG isn't invincible in b05's
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Oh noooooooo
china is doing it
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so after this OG needs to ban
MK, Magnus, Riki, Lina, Tinker & alche (because its cancer anyway)
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LET'S GO IG BRING THIS HOME AND CRUSH
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OG throwing this tournament?
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OK OG, it's time to pull out the meepos.
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On April 04 2017 17:19 goody153 wrote:
holy shit IG is styling OG
give us a 3-0 IG
make us feel that OG isn't invincible in b05's
Yes destroy their momentum for Kiev.
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Now please clear your heads OG so we can have 5 games.
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On April 04 2017 17:19 TomatoBisque wrote:
azarkon on suicide watch
worse its the old guard(burning) doing well that azarkon hates the most
On April 04 2017 15:07 goody153 wrote:Poll: better "G" final roundI (13) 76% O (4) 24% 17 total votes Your vote: better "G" final round (Vote): I
(Vote): O
3-0 please
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Og getting styled on pretty hard. Feelsgodman
Hope ig get this, burning deserves this.
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Burning doing so well! he was the first pro carry that really blew my mind years ago
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500 damage per hit for riki. LOL
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Sadly, s4 is playing so well, just that IG has 5 s4s.
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why are we bringing up A-God. Poor guy can't even defend himself
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Remember when the Liquid preview said iG are the fourth best team in China?
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On April 04 2017 17:16 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
hey guys remember when i said hey guys remember yesterday when i said riki is sleeper op?
somebody acknowledge me
you didnt believe in ig
you believed in no illusion og
ye
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PPD always finds a way to mention Sumail.
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On April 04 2017 17:21 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:16 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
hey guys remember when i said hey guys remember yesterday when i said riki is sleeper op?
somebody acknowledge me you didnt believe in ig you believed in no illusion og ye
ye
i thought og had a better plan to lane this shit
i was very very wrong
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Still though why 3 Aquilas. 500 extra gold for +7 dmg and 3 agi
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On April 04 2017 17:21 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Remember when the Liquid preview said iG are the fourth best team in China?
when has liquiddota ranks ever been right except the TI4 one (thats the closest it was still wrong)
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On April 04 2017 17:17 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:16 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
hey guys remember when i said hey guys remember yesterday when i said riki is sleeper op?
somebody acknowledge me i member
i ALSO member when you said ig's draft is shit and they lost jkjk
but yeah that's sum guud shit on the riki
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On April 04 2017 17:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Still though why 3 Aquilas. 500 extra gold for +7 dmg and 3 agi
Style
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On April 04 2017 17:21 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Remember when the Liquid preview said iG are the fourth best team in China?
TL/LD writers really need to watch more Chinese league games. Problem is the schedule.
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On April 04 2017 17:23 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:21 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Remember when the Liquid preview said iG are the fourth best team in China? when has liquiddota ranks ever been right except the TI4 one (thats the closest it was still wrong)
They had mouz at 5th at TI4 even though they never won a single bo3 at a lan.
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On April 04 2017 17:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Still though why 3 Aquilas. 500 extra gold for +7 dmg and 3 agi
manner mule
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On April 04 2017 17:22 Dracolich70 wrote:
PPD always finds a way to mention Sumail.
Sumail is the prototype new-age mid position 1 player, and the standard against which other mids are set against.
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On April 04 2017 17:16 shouldbeworking wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:14 MintberryCrunchs wrote:On April 04 2017 17:11 shouldbeworking wrote:On April 04 2017 17:10 MintberryCrunchs wrote:
This is so heartbreaking for OG!
Why lol? This is just DAC. What happened at TI6 was heartbreaking!! On that note. Go IG. Go BGods From the grand perspective - sure, TI6 was way more heartbreaking. But i dont think there can be more bad luck in a single game then OG has in this game. Burning escape during the rosh fight is just another of countless examples. Luck is No excuse. :p kidding aside, specs ult really helps IG set up their team fight nicely.
Haha true that - not to take anything away from IG - they are bringing their A+ Game here.
They both outdid OG in draft and execution!
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On April 04 2017 17:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Still though why 3 Aquilas. 500 extra gold for +7 dmg and 3 agi
its +27 agi + backstab damage thats alot
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Aquila is cost competitive with diffusal's damage. Comes in small parts, so you don't lose unreliable gold. Gives some str. No purge though.
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i mean in this case sumail was just a counterpoint lina because he was the only player resisting the respawn time meme lol
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On April 04 2017 17:24 Thetwinmasters wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:23 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 17:21 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Remember when the Liquid preview said iG are the fourth best team in China? when has liquiddota ranks ever been right except the TI4 one (thats the closest it was still wrong) They had mouz at 5th at TI4 even though they never won a single bo3 at a lan.
still their closest power rank despite that xD
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On April 04 2017 17:23 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Still though why 3 Aquilas. 500 extra gold for +7 dmg and 3 agi Style
boboka trying to be VP.lil even when the game is not ended yet
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On April 04 2017 17:24 Caladbolg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:22 Dracolich70 wrote:
PPD always finds a way to mention Sumail. Sumail is the prototype new-age mid position 1 player, and the standard against which other mids are set against.
Bootlicking his subordinate to get back on the team
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Even the makeup girl was cosplaying riki
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This Behind-the-stage stuff is great.
Never knew how extensive all this backstage stuff could be.
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On April 04 2017 17:25 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Still though why 3 Aquilas. 500 extra gold for +7 dmg and 3 agi its +27 agi + backstab damage thats alot
the math he's talking about is the basi on top of the wraith band
the 500 you spend for the basi part of it only gives you 3 agi (which empower increases the damage of to 4.5) and 7 bonus dmg, for a total of 10.5 dmg with empower on
zero armor because stacked aura, zero mana regen cause stacked aura
1 aquila 2 wraith bands makes a lot more sense than 3 aquilas here
consider that those 2 extra basi could be a blade of alacrity, which is 10 agi (15 dmg with empower) and that diffusal, which youre going to want, is already a sick efficient agi item
if this game wasn't a stomp im pretty sure upgrading the other 2 wraith bands to aquilas is just clearly a mistake
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You guys, you remember the last time a team had a long break after being close to losing the finals. Who was that team again who was down 0-3 and came back to win the finals? I'm talking about a Dota 2 team, not NBA.
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On April 04 2017 17:28 Kavas wrote:
This Behind-the-stage stuff is great.
Never knew how extensive all this backstage stuff could be.
Production is big-time these days. Though a lot of that is because managing a Stadium is a lot of work on its own.
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This is shaping up to be one of the most one sided grad finals. Lets see what og can do in game 3
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On April 04 2017 17:32 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:25 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 17:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Still though why 3 Aquilas. 500 extra gold for +7 dmg and 3 agi its +27 agi + backstab damage thats alot the math he's talking about is the basi on top of the wraith band the 500 you spend for the basi part of it only gives you 3 agi (which empower increases the damage of to 4.5) and 7 bonus dmg, for a total of 10.5 dmg with empower on zero armor because stacked aura, zero mana regen cause stacked aura 1 aquila 2 wraith bands makes a lot more sense than 3 aquilas here consider that those 2 extra basi could be a blade of alacrity, which is 10 agi (15 dmg with empower) and that diffusal is already a sick efficient agi item
He wants to cosplay the Mandarin. With enough rings he will become all powerful.
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On April 04 2017 17:32 Danzo wrote:
You guys, you remember the last time a team had a long break after being close to losing the finals. Who was that team again who was down 0-3 and came back to win the finals? I'm talking about a Dota 2 team, not NBA.
DK
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On April 04 2017 17:32 Danzo wrote:
You guys, you remember the last time a team had a long break after being close to losing the finals. Who was that team again who was down 0-3 and came back to win the finals? I'm talking about a Dota 2 team, not NBA.
Wasnt that dk vs ig? The legendary and only bo7 grand final?
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On April 04 2017 17:32 Danzo wrote:
You guys, you remember the last time a team had a long break after being close to losing the finals. Who was that team again who was down 0-3 and came back to win the finals? I'm talking about a Dota 2 team, not NBA.
if this is an actual question, it was DK 2014 vs some other chinese team
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On April 04 2017 17:32 Danzo wrote:
You guys, you remember the last time a team had a long break after being close to losing the finals. Who was that team again who was down 0-3 and came back to win the finals? I'm talking about a Dota 2 team, not NBA.
that was dk vs ig
edit: i linked the wrong series anyhow
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On April 04 2017 17:32 Danzo wrote:
You guys, you remember the last time a team had a long break after being close to losing the finals. Who was that team again who was down 0-3 and came back to win the finals? I'm talking about a Dota 2 team, not NBA.
Only ever happened once. It's DK.
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On April 04 2017 17:34 Stancel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:32 Danzo wrote:
You guys, you remember the last time a team had a long break after being close to losing the finals. Who was that team again who was down 0-3 and came back to win the finals? I'm talking about a Dota 2 team, not NBA. if this is an actual question, it was DK 2014 vs some other chinese team
vs IG with Hao 430 Luo Chuan and Faith IIRC. IG was also incredibly strong. Probably the golden age of Chinese Dota 2 with DK Newbee IG VG tearing things up.
Also the break was absurd since Hao had to go to the US embassy for VISA stuff. Something like 6 hrs right? Completely reset the momentum of IG.
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On April 04 2017 17:33 hunter_x wrote:
This is shaping up to be one of the most one sided grad finals. Lets see what og can do in game 3
well game 1 was incredibly hard for IG
so TI4 finals and first DAC might still be the most one sided finals for a big tournament
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On April 04 2017 17:24 Caladbolg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:22 Dracolich70 wrote:
PPD always finds a way to mention Sumail. Sumail is the prototype new-age mid position 1 player, and the standard against which other mids are set against. Yeah, EGs individuals did well at this tournament.
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On April 04 2017 17:35 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:33 hunter_x wrote:
This is shaping up to be one of the most one sided grad finals. Lets see what og can do in game 3 well game 1 was incredibly hard for IG so TI4 finals and first DAC might still be the most one sided finals for a big tournament
TI5 was pretty lopsided IMO. CDEC just ran out of gas completely.
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On April 04 2017 17:36 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:24 Caladbolg wrote:On April 04 2017 17:22 Dracolich70 wrote:
PPD always finds a way to mention Sumail. Sumail is the prototype new-age mid position 1 player, and the standard against which other mids are set against. Yeah, EGs individuals did well at this tournament.
Suma1l did, he only got rekt once vs Papparazi who is number one mid in the world apparantly, the others ok....but Suma1l was pretty on point.
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On April 04 2017 17:36 Caladbolg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:35 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 17:33 hunter_x wrote:
This is shaping up to be one of the most one sided grad finals. Lets see what og can do in game 3 well game 1 was incredibly hard for IG so TI4 finals and first DAC might still be the most one sided finals for a big tournament TI5 was pretty lopsided IMO. CDEC just ran out of gas completely.
they did put up a fight the first 3 games .. it didnt look that onesided
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how long is the break?
game 1 to game 2 does not take this long
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On April 04 2017 17:40 Vertical wrote:
how long is the break?
game 1 to game 2 does not take this long
"extended break" they said
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lmfao god slacks is shameless
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On April 04 2017 17:40 TomatoBisque wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:40 Vertical wrote:
how long is the break?
game 1 to game 2 does not take this long "extended break" they said
half time break without Bruce Springsteen but with ActionSlacks
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On April 04 2017 17:40 TomatoBisque wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:40 Vertical wrote:
how long is the break?
game 1 to game 2 does not take this long "extended break" they said
there goes the momentum
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These shorts are cringey but not cringey enough for a Chinese tournament.
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On April 04 2017 17:38 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:36 Dracolich70 wrote:On April 04 2017 17:24 Caladbolg wrote:On April 04 2017 17:22 Dracolich70 wrote:
PPD always finds a way to mention Sumail. Sumail is the prototype new-age mid position 1 player, and the standard against which other mids are set against. Yeah, EGs individuals did well at this tournament. Suma1l did, he only got rekt once vs Papparazi who is number one mid in the world apparantly, the others ok....but Suma1l was pretty on point. I don't think laning stage is all that meaningful, as I assume this is what you are talking about.
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Holy smokes thats alot of people in the stands
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I think Purge really dislikes PPD's digs at OG.
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oh good they banned alchemist
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Yes Naga/Alch ban by IG. They want to end this now.
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On April 04 2017 17:35 Caladbolg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:34 Stancel wrote:On April 04 2017 17:32 Danzo wrote:
You guys, you remember the last time a team had a long break after being close to losing the finals. Who was that team again who was down 0-3 and came back to win the finals? I'm talking about a Dota 2 team, not NBA. if this is an actual question, it was DK 2014 vs some other chinese team vs IG with Hao 430 Luo Chuan and Faith IIRC. IG was also incredibly strong. Probably the golden age of Chinese Dota 2 with DK Newbee IG VG tearing things up. Also the break was absurd since Hao had to go to the US embassy for VISA stuff. Something like 6 hrs right? Completely reset the momentum of IG.
hao won that year's TI with newbee so pretty sure he wasn't on IG
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At least OG banned Magnus this time.
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On April 04 2017 17:43 Caladbolg wrote:
I think Purge really dislikes PPD's digs at OG.
the ones that sting the most are the ones with truth in them
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On April 04 2017 17:46 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:35 Caladbolg wrote:On April 04 2017 17:34 Stancel wrote:On April 04 2017 17:32 Danzo wrote:
You guys, you remember the last time a team had a long break after being close to losing the finals. Who was that team again who was down 0-3 and came back to win the finals? I'm talking about a Dota 2 team, not NBA. if this is an actual question, it was DK 2014 vs some other chinese team vs IG with Hao 430 Luo Chuan and Faith IIRC. IG was also incredibly strong. Probably the golden age of Chinese Dota 2 with DK Newbee IG VG tearing things up. Also the break was absurd since Hao had to go to the US embassy for VISA stuff. Something like 6 hrs right? Completely reset the momentum of IG. hao won that year's TI with newbee so pretty sure he wasn't on IG
iirc Newbee didn't form until later that month in the shuffle
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On April 04 2017 17:46 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:35 Caladbolg wrote:On April 04 2017 17:34 Stancel wrote:On April 04 2017 17:32 Danzo wrote:
You guys, you remember the last time a team had a long break after being close to losing the finals. Who was that team again who was down 0-3 and came back to win the finals? I'm talking about a Dota 2 team, not NBA. if this is an actual question, it was DK 2014 vs some other chinese team vs IG with Hao 430 Luo Chuan and Faith IIRC. IG was also incredibly strong. Probably the golden age of Chinese Dota 2 with DK Newbee IG VG tearing things up. Also the break was absurd since Hao had to go to the US embassy for VISA stuff. Something like 6 hrs right? Completely reset the momentum of IG. hao won that year's TI with newbee so pretty sure he wasn't on IG
Hao was on IG before he went on newbee that year
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Ana looks as they lost already :>
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On April 04 2017 17:46 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:35 Caladbolg wrote:On April 04 2017 17:34 Stancel wrote:On April 04 2017 17:32 Danzo wrote:
You guys, you remember the last time a team had a long break after being close to losing the finals. Who was that team again who was down 0-3 and came back to win the finals? I'm talking about a Dota 2 team, not NBA. if this is an actual question, it was DK 2014 vs some other chinese team vs IG with Hao 430 Luo Chuan and Faith IIRC. IG was also incredibly strong. Probably the golden age of Chinese Dota 2 with DK Newbee IG VG tearing things up. Also the break was absurd since Hao had to go to the US embassy for VISA stuff. Something like 6 hrs right? Completely reset the momentum of IG. hao won that year's TI with newbee so pretty sure he wasn't on IG
Ah yeah. Who was with IG though? Was that the Luo carry era?
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On April 04 2017 17:41 Vertical wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:40 TomatoBisque wrote:On April 04 2017 17:40 Vertical wrote:
how long is the break?
game 1 to game 2 does not take this long "extended break" they said there goes the momentum
I don't believe in momentum, only skill. - TaeJa
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Yeah OG looks like they just flamed eachother in the break instead of finding a plan
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On April 04 2017 17:47 Caladbolg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:46 haduken wrote:On April 04 2017 17:35 Caladbolg wrote:On April 04 2017 17:34 Stancel wrote:On April 04 2017 17:32 Danzo wrote:
You guys, you remember the last time a team had a long break after being close to losing the finals. Who was that team again who was down 0-3 and came back to win the finals? I'm talking about a Dota 2 team, not NBA. if this is an actual question, it was DK 2014 vs some other chinese team vs IG with Hao 430 Luo Chuan and Faith IIRC. IG was also incredibly strong. Probably the golden age of Chinese Dota 2 with DK Newbee IG VG tearing things up. Also the break was absurd since Hao had to go to the US embassy for VISA stuff. Something like 6 hrs right? Completely reset the momentum of IG. hao won that year's TI with newbee so pretty sure he wasn't on IG Ah yeah. Who was with IG though? Was that the Luo carry era?
luo was offlaning when hao was carrying i think
edit: as others have said, nb didnt form until shortly after
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On April 04 2017 17:47 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:41 Vertical wrote:On April 04 2017 17:40 TomatoBisque wrote:On April 04 2017 17:40 Vertical wrote:
how long is the break?
game 1 to game 2 does not take this long "extended break" they said there goes the momentum I don't believe in momentum, only skill. - TaeJa
Then he 17-0'd dreamhack after though
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Ban Lina Magnus
Pick MK
OG try hard to ban iG here
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I know Purge dislikes what PPD does, but it's mostly for show. You can only say so much when the meta between two teams is a bit constricted.
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On April 04 2017 17:49 Vertical wrote:
Ban Lina Magnus
Pick MK
OG try hard to ban iG here
meanwhile iG also banning all illusion possibility
we're left with Luna + SD combo now
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i wish op was an invoker player
that would make him truly truly top tier
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OP SF! Woohoo! Wanna see this.
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On April 04 2017 17:47 Daray wrote:
Ana looks as they lost already :>
Ana looks like that even winning lol
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Burning AM Burning AM Burning AM Burning AM Burning AM Burning AM !!!
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On April 04 2017 17:52 Vertical wrote:
Burning AM Burning AM Burning AM Burning AM Burning AM Burning AM !!!
sadly i don't think this is a AM game
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I don't know if I've seen OG not illusion this tournament.
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On April 04 2017 17:51 stuchiu wrote:
Purge seems humorless
It's a bit more obvious when he's with Slacks and Anee actually, but then with them at least he can just join their laughter. PPD humor is very dry and sarcastic and not the slapstick humor that Purge looks comfortable with.
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On April 04 2017 17:46 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:35 Caladbolg wrote:On April 04 2017 17:34 Stancel wrote:On April 04 2017 17:32 Danzo wrote:
You guys, you remember the last time a team had a long break after being close to losing the finals. Who was that team again who was down 0-3 and came back to win the finals? I'm talking about a Dota 2 team, not NBA. if this is an actual question, it was DK 2014 vs some other chinese team vs IG with Hao 430 Luo Chuan and Faith IIRC. IG was also incredibly strong. Probably the golden age of Chinese Dota 2 with DK Newbee IG VG tearing things up. Also the break was absurd since Hao had to go to the US embassy for VISA stuff. Something like 6 hrs right? Completely reset the momentum of IG. hao won that year's TI with newbee so pretty sure he wasn't on IG
Hao was on that IG. He changed to newbee after Chinese new year.. he was on IG during that wpc ace bo7
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On April 04 2017 17:52 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i wish op was an invoker player
that would make him truly truly top tier
He is an invoker player and plays it quite a bit in many IG games
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just pick venge for burning then go 5 man memepush
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On April 04 2017 17:51 stuchiu wrote:
Purge seems humorless
Hey this is dota, we are a serious sports, no fun allowed
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Lol was that a pogchamp from notail? xD
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On April 04 2017 17:51 stuchiu wrote:
Purge seems humorless
Nah he sometimes smiles when Day9 is belching with laughter during his lessons
oh what an LD
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This is an interesting Draft from OG. Lets see how N0tail Lone Druid is
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in retrospect ig shouldve 4thpicked naix
this was an amazing naix game
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OG with their comfort heroes. We're going to a game 4 boys!
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On April 04 2017 17:51 stuchiu wrote:
Purge seems humorless He is trying to drag up the level a bit, instead of PPD using the air time to spread salt at OG.
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On April 04 2017 17:54 Papercappu wrote:
just pick venge for burning then go 5 man memepush
what a prophet
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VS BurNIng, he was good on this the last time I saw him play it.
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OG draft is really good
their comfort playstyle
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On April 04 2017 17:54 Papercappu wrote:
just pick venge for burning then go 5 man memepush
*high five*
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On April 04 2017 17:54 Dracolich70 wrote:He is trying to drag up the level a bit, instead of PPD using the air time to spread salt at OG.
that's not what salt is
and that's not what level is
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On April 04 2017 17:54 Papercappu wrote:
just pick venge for burning then go 5 man memepush
applauds
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how is venge nullified LD?
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This is the IG steamroll comp that was just so surprising with how fast they can get rax.
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If Ember gets Linkens he'll be practically impossible to kill.
Question is can OG get through the laning stage?
Lone druid feels like a real desperate pick.
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On April 04 2017 17:56 Vertical wrote:
how is venge nullified LD?
Swap ..LD bear just gets destroyed in seconds with SF and venge
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On April 04 2017 17:56 Vertical wrote:
how is venge nullified LD?
venge is sacrificial
if LD get swapped and dies OG is dead
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Radiance bear or sniper druid?
I think bear is better
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On April 04 2017 17:56 Vertical wrote:
how is venge nullified LD?
Root someone in a chase, swap out. Swap in hero and stun, bear useless. Very tanky core and LD doesn't DPS all that well.
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On April 04 2017 17:57 babysimba wrote:
Radiance bear or sniper druid?
I think bear is better
ranged druid is better most of the time
i feel like this is more of a range druid game
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On April 04 2017 17:57 Kavas wrote:
If Ember gets Linkens he'll be practically impossible to kill.
Question is can OG get through the laning stage?
Lone druid feels like a real desperate pick.
og has pretty strong lanes all around; ld is one of the stronger laners out there with a pretty strong level 5 power spike
idk i definitely dont think og's outdrafted actually
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On April 04 2017 17:57 Kamisamanachi wrote:Swap ..LD bear just gets destroyed in seconds with SF and venge
I thought 7.00 LD utilize the druid not the bear?
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On April 04 2017 17:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:54 Dracolich70 wrote:On April 04 2017 17:51 stuchiu wrote:
Purge seems humorless He is trying to drag up the level a bit, instead of PPD using the air time to spread salt at OG. that's not what salt is and that's not what level is It is all based on salt, and it started at the start of the tournament and has been prevalent throughout the tournament.
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This patch has actually buff bear quite a bit.
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On April 04 2017 17:58 Vertical wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:57 Kamisamanachi wrote:On April 04 2017 17:56 Vertical wrote:
how is venge nullified LD? Swap ..LD bear just gets destroyed in seconds with SF and venge I thought 7.00 LD utilize the druid not the bear?
doesn't matter the druid melts seconds in the middle of IG
level 3 swap will catch LD
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On April 04 2017 17:58 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On April 04 2017 17:54 Dracolich70 wrote:On April 04 2017 17:51 stuchiu wrote:
Purge seems humorless He is trying to drag up the level a bit, instead of PPD using the air time to spread salt at OG. that's not what salt is and that's not what level is It is all based on salt, and it started at the start of the tournament and has been prevalent throughout the tournament.
the tongue in cheek rivalry between na dota and eu dota from the pov of ppd is not based in salt
it's just a tongue in cheek rivalry
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On April 04 2017 17:58 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On April 04 2017 17:54 Dracolich70 wrote:On April 04 2017 17:51 stuchiu wrote:
Purge seems humorless He is trying to drag up the level a bit, instead of PPD using the air time to spread salt at OG. that's not what salt is and that's not what level is It is all based on salt, and it started at the start of the tournament and has been prevalent throughout the tournament.
Have you not seen all the hype PPD been giving OG? Started after they won the major and PPD saying how god Fly and NoTail are etc. Pretty sure if he coming across "salty" now it's just because he thinks there drafts are way off or gameplay today.
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hahaha if boboka got that courier game is over
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Is Earth Spirit throwing the game already?
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Oh wow. Just woke up... Surprised to see OG down 2 games.
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On April 04 2017 18:02 Moobutt wrote:
Oh wow. Just woke up... Surprised to see OG down 2 games.
game 1 was crazy
game 2 was a clinic
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On April 04 2017 18:02 Moobutt wrote:
Oh wow. Just woke up... Surprised to see OG down 2 games.
Game one was an epic battle of iG trying everything they can to stop the power of alch.
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On April 04 2017 18:02 Moobutt wrote:
Oh wow. Just woke up... Surprised to see OG down 2 games.
game 1 IG almost ALMOST got alchemist and they were ahead the entire game lol
game 2 was just IG styling OG
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On April 04 2017 18:00 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:58 Dracolich70 wrote:On April 04 2017 17:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On April 04 2017 17:54 Dracolich70 wrote:On April 04 2017 17:51 stuchiu wrote:
Purge seems humorless He is trying to drag up the level a bit, instead of PPD using the air time to spread salt at OG. that's not what salt is and that's not what level is It is all based on salt, and it started at the start of the tournament and has been prevalent throughout the tournament. Have you not seen all the hype PPD been giving OG? Started after they won the major and PPD saying how god Fly and NoTail are etc. Pretty sure if he coming across "salty" now it's just because he thinks there drafts are way off or gameplay today.
He also praises Jerax and S4 quite a bit. Individual criticism is usually on Ana, and he always qualifies that Ana gets tough matchups. And mostly he compares Ana to Sumail and Miracle which is a pretty hard comparison to win for Ana anyway, much less any other mid out there.
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On April 04 2017 17:47 Caladbolg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:46 haduken wrote:On April 04 2017 17:35 Caladbolg wrote:On April 04 2017 17:34 Stancel wrote:On April 04 2017 17:32 Danzo wrote:
You guys, you remember the last time a team had a long break after being close to losing the finals. Who was that team again who was down 0-3 and came back to win the finals? I'm talking about a Dota 2 team, not NBA. if this is an actual question, it was DK 2014 vs some other chinese team vs IG with Hao 430 Luo Chuan and Faith IIRC. IG was also incredibly strong. Probably the golden age of Chinese Dota 2 with DK Newbee IG VG tearing things up. Also the break was absurd since Hao had to go to the US embassy for VISA stuff. Something like 6 hrs right? Completely reset the momentum of IG. hao won that year's TI with newbee so pretty sure he wasn't on IG Ah yeah. Who was with IG though? Was that the Luo carry era?
Hao was in IG, Newbee was formed after that BO7 tournament. During the TI4 season Hao was half a year in IG and another half in Newbee
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Notail missed A LOT of free cs
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Wonder if OG knew that those 2 were in the trees
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yea og's lineup is rly decent at fighting when everyone's around levels 5-7
this is not a stomp game
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Give them juicy kills to ana.
I there still a drop of hope in this sea of salt?!?
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That was a nice movement by IG with the pincer.
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Just tuned in, haven't watched IG or AAA in ages, what position is he playing nowadays?
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IG might push this highground before OG is even online
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On April 04 2017 18:11 FreakyDroid wrote:
Just tuned in, haven't watched IG or AAA in ages, what position is he playing nowadays?
Burning's playing carry venge, still position 1
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On April 04 2017 17:47 Caladbolg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 17:46 haduken wrote:On April 04 2017 17:35 Caladbolg wrote:On April 04 2017 17:34 Stancel wrote:On April 04 2017 17:32 Danzo wrote:
You guys, you remember the last time a team had a long break after being close to losing the finals. Who was that team again who was down 0-3 and came back to win the finals? I'm talking about a Dota 2 team, not NBA. if this is an actual question, it was DK 2014 vs some other chinese team vs IG with Hao 430 Luo Chuan and Faith IIRC. IG was also incredibly strong. Probably the golden age of Chinese Dota 2 with DK Newbee IG VG tearing things up. Also the break was absurd since Hao had to go to the US embassy for VISA stuff. Something like 6 hrs right? Completely reset the momentum of IG. hao won that year's TI with newbee so pretty sure he wasn't on IG Ah yeah. Who was with IG though? Was that the Luo carry era?
oh okay, i stand corrected.
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Calling it, this is over. Gg ig ez 3-0
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-Good game, well played -
fucking rekt
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On April 04 2017 18:11 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
IG might push this highground before OG is even online
what conditions would you say og needs to achieve here to be "online"?
i think all their heroes have pretty smooth power curves
i guess axe blademail, mk basher, ember maelstrom, ld maelstorm are all kind of big?
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On April 04 2017 18:12 TomatoBisque wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:11 FreakyDroid wrote:
Just tuned in, haven't watched IG or AAA in ages, what position is he playing nowadays? Burning's playing carry venge, still position 1
Cool thx.
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On April 04 2017 18:13 FreakyDroid wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:12 TomatoBisque wrote:On April 04 2017 18:11 FreakyDroid wrote:
Just tuned in, haven't watched IG or AAA in ages, what position is he playing nowadays? Burning's playing carry venge, still position 1 Cool thx.
But OP on SF will get most of the farm. Burning is there to buff him and save him and deal secondary or even tertiary damage.
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Burning venge is such beautiful thing to watch
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On April 04 2017 18:12 TomatoBisque wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:11 FreakyDroid wrote:
Just tuned in, haven't watched IG or AAA in ages, what position is he playing nowadays? Burning's playing carry venge, still position 1
would this be the first premier tournament he won in dota 2
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IG is playing much better than OG in this final.
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Jerax is such a good player
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Turned out OG is the 1 that got tilted after alch game.
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Seeing this makes og look like a really one dimensional team.
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On April 04 2017 18:14 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:12 TomatoBisque wrote:On April 04 2017 18:11 FreakyDroid wrote:
Just tuned in, haven't watched IG or AAA in ages, what position is he playing nowadays? Burning's playing carry venge, still position 1 would this be the first premier tournament he won in dota 2
He won a few big tournaments with the 2013-2014 version of DK
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On April 04 2017 18:14 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:12 TomatoBisque wrote:On April 04 2017 18:11 FreakyDroid wrote:
Just tuned in, haven't watched IG or AAA in ages, what position is he playing nowadays? Burning's playing carry venge, still position 1 would this be the first premier tournament he won in dota 2
He won far more in the DK2014 era, but first in 3 years.
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On April 04 2017 18:14 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:12 TomatoBisque wrote:On April 04 2017 18:11 FreakyDroid wrote:
Just tuned in, haven't watched IG or AAA in ages, what position is he playing nowadays? Burning's playing carry venge, still position 1 would this be the first premier tournament he won in dota 2
Him winning something after that meme story about him seeing shadow play AM and him play VS is just bittersweet
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at least OG got the aegis
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That was such a stupid rosh attempt from iG lol.
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So what is worth that rosh?
OG lose Notail and s4
but IG lost OP and Roshan kill
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On April 04 2017 18:16 Kishin2 wrote:
That was such a stupid rosh attempt from iG lol.
Arrogant, more likely.
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On April 04 2017 18:16 deathzz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:14 haduken wrote:On April 04 2017 18:12 TomatoBisque wrote:On April 04 2017 18:11 FreakyDroid wrote:
Just tuned in, haven't watched IG or AAA in ages, what position is he playing nowadays? Burning's playing carry venge, still position 1 would this be the first premier tournament he won in dota 2 Him winning something after that meme story about him seeing shadow play AM and him play VS is just bittersweet
yeah burdening aside he's probably the one that deserve a TI the most.
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IG should really buy some quelling blades
could've just cut the trees around rosh pit
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Jerax basher can turn around the teamfights that have gone IG's way so far
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On April 04 2017 18:14 hunter_x wrote:
Seeing this makes og look like a really one dimensional team.
that's not true though
i've literally seen them play any kind of style and make it work
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They are tilting like fuck. Notail was supposed to get a free lane on top. YYF's stream caught him missing shit tons of CS, don't know if english stream caught that.
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Can't just call like that without getting the warlock
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This constant cat and mouse game between Boboka and Jerax has been really entertaining
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Gratz IG! Well deserved.
I was hoping for more of a close finals, no matter who wins.
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I don't understand OG's logic in committing to an initiation without locking out warlock.
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On April 04 2017 18:18 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:14 hunter_x wrote:
Seeing this makes og look like a really one dimensional team. that's not true though i've literally seen them play any kind of style and make it work
Well seems like in this tournament only illusion heroes really worked for them.
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On April 04 2017 18:20 traumatism wrote:
This constant cat and mouse game between Boboka and Jerax has been really entertaining
Two best players in their team IMO. Or at least two most valuable. So far Boboka is owning the matchup though.
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Fatal Bonds
Ability to swap out the taunted SF
Hard to team fight for OG, the Visage is very useless here
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SNY?
IG really wants to end this early.
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OG getting AOE'd on end, like they themselves did earlier to others in the tournament.
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SnY not really something I like for SF.
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og shoudlve picked real sniper instead of fake sniper
better hg def better comeback potential
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On April 04 2017 18:20 traumatism wrote:
This constant cat and mouse game between Boboka and Jerax has been really entertaining
Monkey King vs Earthspirt is also the story of this tourny
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im actually very impressed that notail survive that hg fight
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On April 04 2017 18:23 haduken wrote:
im actually very impressed that notail survive that hg fight
he didn't I think, he's just a lone druid so he respawns instantly
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On April 04 2017 18:21 hunter_x wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:18 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:14 hunter_x wrote:
Seeing this makes og look like a really one dimensional team. that's not true though i've literally seen them play any kind of style and make it work Well seems like in this tournament only illusion heroes really worked for them.
"this tournament"
there's your problem .. unless you miss out the fact that they've been the best team since TI6 uncontested
just because they're losing this finals we can just ignore everything they've done this past few tournaments
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On April 04 2017 18:22 Caladbolg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:20 traumatism wrote:
This constant cat and mouse game between Boboka and Jerax has been really entertaining Two best players in their team IMO. Or at least two most valuable. So far Boboka is owning the matchup though.
Yeah this is a real treat to watch. We are seeing two of the best ES and MK players go at it. Xxs has been having a standout performance also.
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On April 04 2017 18:24 TomatoBisque wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:23 haduken wrote:
im actually very impressed that notail survive that hg fight he didn't I think, he's just a lone druid so he respawns instantly
he's not level 20
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On April 04 2017 18:23 haduken wrote:
im actually very impressed that notail survive that hg fight
He died to 2 right clicks and magnetize
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IG not messing around! Kill a T3 > Go kill shrines
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On April 04 2017 18:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:24 TomatoBisque wrote:On April 04 2017 18:23 haduken wrote:
im actually very impressed that notail survive that hg fight he didn't I think, he's just a lone druid so he respawns instantly he's not level 20
shh
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That was a random deward lol.
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Solar crested SF is just brutal
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On April 04 2017 18:24 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:21 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 18:18 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:14 hunter_x wrote:
Seeing this makes og look like a really one dimensional team. that's not true though i've literally seen them play any kind of style and make it work Well seems like in this tournament only illusion heroes really worked for them. "this tournament" there's your problem .. unless you miss out the fact that they've been the best team since TI6 uncontested just because they're losing this finals we can just ignore everything they've done this past few tournaments
This is the 3rd lan on this patch they have failed to win! Not won a lan since Major which was 2 patches ago now? But of course been very consistent thats for sure!
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On April 04 2017 18:24 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:21 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 18:18 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:14 hunter_x wrote:
Seeing this makes og look like a really one dimensional team. that's not true though i've literally seen them play any kind of style and make it work Well seems like in this tournament only illusion heroes really worked for them. "this tournament" there's your problem .. unless you miss out the fact that they've been the best team since TI6 uncontested just because they're losing this finals we can just ignore everything they've done this past few tournaments
Yeah they won boston, but that was a diffrent game, before 7.00. Starladder they did not do so great.
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Guys game isn't even over.
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idk it looks pretty over to me
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On April 04 2017 18:24 shouldbeworking wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:22 Caladbolg wrote:On April 04 2017 18:20 traumatism wrote:
This constant cat and mouse game between Boboka and Jerax has been really entertaining Two best players in their team IMO. Or at least two most valuable. So far Boboka is owning the matchup though. Yeah this is a real treat to watch. We are seeing two of the best ES and MK players go at it. Xxs has been having a standout performance also.
The best part is they play both heroes
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On April 04 2017 18:27 babysimba wrote:
Guys game isn't even over.
xD bad time to post that
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On April 04 2017 18:27 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:24 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:21 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 18:18 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:14 hunter_x wrote:
Seeing this makes og look like a really one dimensional team. that's not true though i've literally seen them play any kind of style and make it work Well seems like in this tournament only illusion heroes really worked for them. "this tournament" there's your problem .. unless you miss out the fact that they've been the best team since TI6 uncontested just because they're losing this finals we can just ignore everything they've done this past few tournaments This is the 3rd lan on this patch they have failed to win! Not won a lan since Major which was 2 patches ago now? But of course been very consistent thats for sure!
ehem they've won more than everybody
and that's the testament that they've always ended up top 4 in their worst tournaments
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On April 04 2017 18:27 babysimba wrote:
Guys game isn't even over.
Come on it is
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Haven't been following OG this tournament but they looked terrible this series.
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So unlucky from Notail. But really, he's a sitting duck for fatal bonds and swap.
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this game would be an instant classic if OG come back.
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Great to see LC and carry Venge win on the main stage.
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On April 04 2017 18:29 Kishin2 wrote:
Haven't been following OG this tournament but they've looked terrible this series.
Dominated group A with different drafts. Dominated playoffs, but beat IG in winner's finals with Ana Alch and Notail Naga respectively.
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On April 04 2017 18:29 shouldbeworking wrote:
Great to see LC and carry Venge win on the main stage.
It's not even carry VS.
It's almost pure support except it doesn't buy wards.
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On April 04 2017 18:27 hunter_x wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:24 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:21 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 18:18 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:14 hunter_x wrote:
Seeing this makes og look like a really one dimensional team. that's not true though i've literally seen them play any kind of style and make it work Well seems like in this tournament only illusion heroes really worked for them. "this tournament" there's your problem .. unless you miss out the fact that they've been the best team since TI6 uncontested just because they're losing this finals we can just ignore everything they've done this past few tournaments Yeah they won boston, but that was a diffrent game, before 7.00. Starladder they did not do so great.
even their worst tournament result is a top 4 though
how about the rest of the tournaments
i know you hate OG and love liquid but you can't just ignore every other win and just cite the only one that liquid does well (when the rest of the tournaments they've been dumpstered)
you can't really deny that OG is GOOD
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That g1 loss due to the error by ana at the end tilted them quite bad
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jerax has had some really bad positioning at times this game
he got hit with the chaotic offering on the first push HG and then boboka silenced him, and he got wu kong's off late. if he had that go off at the start, they would probably won that fight convincingly
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On April 04 2017 18:30 Kavas wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:29 shouldbeworking wrote:
Great to see LC and carry Venge win on the main stage. It's not even carry VS. It's almost pure support except it doesn't buy wards.
it's like utility/position 3 venge
Goes a bunch of auras
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xxs is the man
damn, this dude sometimes missed his duel but still cleans OG wherever he is
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hehehehehe i have had the biggest grin this series.
loving this
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Pandemona
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On April 04 2017 18:29 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:27 Pandemona wrote:On April 04 2017 18:24 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:21 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 18:18 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:14 hunter_x wrote:
Seeing this makes og look like a really one dimensional team. that's not true though i've literally seen them play any kind of style and make it work Well seems like in this tournament only illusion heroes really worked for them. "this tournament" there's your problem .. unless you miss out the fact that they've been the best team since TI6 uncontested just because they're losing this finals we can just ignore everything they've done this past few tournaments This is the 3rd lan on this patch they have failed to win! Not won a lan since Major which was 2 patches ago now? But of course been very consistent thats for sure! ehem they've won more than everybody and that's the testament that they've always ended up top 4 in their worst tournaments
Not saying they haven't. However the last 3 LAN tournaments since Boston that they entered they have not won. Placed very high but not looked as good as they did back when winning everything going into Boston. Just saying you can't use they won everything now when others teams have won LANS they attended!
Like i said and agreed, they are a very very good team. Arguably the most consistent since TI6. Unbeatable clearly not? Best in the world right now? Interesting debate right now for sure.
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Even when og chooses the time and the place, ig keeps winning engagements
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On April 04 2017 18:31 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:29 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:27 Pandemona wrote:On April 04 2017 18:24 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:21 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 18:18 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:14 hunter_x wrote:
Seeing this makes og look like a really one dimensional team. that's not true though i've literally seen them play any kind of style and make it work Well seems like in this tournament only illusion heroes really worked for them. "this tournament" there's your problem .. unless you miss out the fact that they've been the best team since TI6 uncontested just because they're losing this finals we can just ignore everything they've done this past few tournaments This is the 3rd lan on this patch they have failed to win! Not won a lan since Major which was 2 patches ago now? But of course been very consistent thats for sure! ehem they've won more than everybody and that's the testament that they've always ended up top 4 in their worst tournaments Not saying they haven't. However the last 3 LAN tournaments since Boston that they entered they have not won. Placed very high but not looked as good as they did back when winning everything going into Boston. Just saying you can't use they won everything now when others teams have won LANS they attended!
The only tournament OG won between TI6 and Boston was Elimination Mode
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lol OG about to be 3-0d, they looked unbeatable
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The fun thing about OG is that with their disciplined, farming orientated strategies, they do remind me a little bit of how the chinese teams use to play way back.
The trick that was most succesful versus this kind of strategy has allways been early pressure and on top of that, a hero that can change the dynamic of the game.
I think IG did exactly that in their 2 first games versus OG and completly destroyed their rhythm and confidence.
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man axe is total paper right now
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Satanic on OP. He's unkillable now.
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This is same aura gaming IG did in Kiev qualifiers ..They had undying to build pipe at that time..Who needs Undy when earth spirit builds pipe
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On April 04 2017 18:30 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:27 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 18:24 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:21 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 18:18 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:14 hunter_x wrote:
Seeing this makes og look like a really one dimensional team. that's not true though i've literally seen them play any kind of style and make it work Well seems like in this tournament only illusion heroes really worked for them. "this tournament" there's your problem .. unless you miss out the fact that they've been the best team since TI6 uncontested just because they're losing this finals we can just ignore everything they've done this past few tournaments Yeah they won boston, but that was a diffrent game, before 7.00. Starladder they did not do so great. even their worst tournament result is a top 4 though how about the rest of the tournaments i know you hate OG and love liquid but you can't just ignore every other win and just cite the only one that liquid does well (when the rest of the tournaments they've been dumpstered) you can't really deny that OG is GOOD
I dont hate og. People get that wrong it seem. I just dont want to see them win anymore. And i still think ana and notail are kind of not top tier playes. Fly makes it all work.
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This guy on lock is just timing those rocks perfectly every time, well done.
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All I want is 5 games of grand final
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holy shit IG is owning this.
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I believe the term here is "fantasy gg timing"
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GGGGGGGGGGG. IG deserves this win by beating alch
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After all that and merlini says, "that's a wipe"
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Everytime defending highgrond they call and ember comes close in just to get hit by the warlock ult
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On April 04 2017 18:33 hunter_x wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:30 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:27 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 18:24 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:21 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 18:18 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:14 hunter_x wrote:
Seeing this makes og look like a really one dimensional team. that's not true though i've literally seen them play any kind of style and make it work Well seems like in this tournament only illusion heroes really worked for them. "this tournament" there's your problem .. unless you miss out the fact that they've been the best team since TI6 uncontested just because they're losing this finals we can just ignore everything they've done this past few tournaments Yeah they won boston, but that was a diffrent game, before 7.00. Starladder they did not do so great. even their worst tournament result is a top 4 though how about the rest of the tournaments i know you hate OG and love liquid but you can't just ignore every other win and just cite the only one that liquid does well (when the rest of the tournaments they've been dumpstered) you can't really deny that OG is GOOD I dont hate og. People get that wrong it seem. I just dont want to see them win anymore. And i still think ana and notail are kind of not top tier playes. Fly makes it all work.
Ana's alright though he's no sccc or suma1l or whatever . Notail is flexible enough but yeah
but they're still good , you can't be terrible and be in a dominating team
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This would only still be winnable if OG had an alchemist or some shit
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On April 04 2017 18:35 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:33 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 18:30 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:27 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 18:24 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:21 hunter_x wrote:On April 04 2017 18:18 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 18:14 hunter_x wrote:
Seeing this makes og look like a really one dimensional team. that's not true though i've literally seen them play any kind of style and make it work Well seems like in this tournament only illusion heroes really worked for them. "this tournament" there's your problem .. unless you miss out the fact that they've been the best team since TI6 uncontested just because they're losing this finals we can just ignore everything they've done this past few tournaments Yeah they won boston, but that was a diffrent game, before 7.00. Starladder they did not do so great. even their worst tournament result is a top 4 though how about the rest of the tournaments i know you hate OG and love liquid but you can't just ignore every other win and just cite the only one that liquid does well (when the rest of the tournaments they've been dumpstered) you can't really deny that OG is GOOD I dont hate og. People get that wrong it seem. I just dont want to see them win anymore. And i still think ana and notail are kind of not top tier playes. Fly makes it all work. Ana's alright though he's no sccc or suma1l or whatever . Notail is flexible enough but they're still good , you can't be terrible and be in a dominating team
yup good mid but no rtz
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this is all karma for the alch first pick in this series
all of it
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im crying a bit.
IG is back!
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so about that extended break
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nice to see China fighting back
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On April 04 2017 15:07 goody153 wrote:Poll: better "G" final roundI (13) 76% O (4) 24% 17 total votes Your vote: better "G" final round (Vote): I
(Vote): O
DREAMS DO HAPPEN
OG actually lost a grand finals lol
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Where did this OP guy come from
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well that was disappointing
all the analysts on the english stream kept hyping up og saying they were "a tier above" the other teams and then this happens
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Realistically, IG just punched their ticket to TI7 too.
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LMAO that trophy is tiny.
I was expecting a giant sword like last time.
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damn the crowd is empowering
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IG on a roll. Lets see them do this at all the other lans they qualified for. Which is a bunch too.
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LMAO upside down flag someone's getting fined
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On April 04 2017 18:38 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Where did this OP guy come from
Chinese grass root doto
best in the world.
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but, but, that extended break...
very clean G2 and G3, gratz IG
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Og just had no answers, great play by ig. Gratz!
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lol that flag upside down
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Pandemona
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On April 04 2017 18:37 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 15:07 goody153 wrote:Poll: better "G" final roundI (13) 76% O (4) 24% 17 total votes Your vote: better "G" final round (Vote): I
(Vote): O
DREAMS DO HAPPEN OG actually lost a grand finals lol
This is the 2nd grand finals they lost!
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Totally exposed without their crutch naga alch bullshit hmm
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so happy for BurNIng and the rest of iG, really well deserved
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dominating performance after game 1
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On April 04 2017 18:38 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:38 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Where did this OP guy come from Chinese grass root doto best in the world.
but a-god told me the chinese scene was stifling and hostile to fresh blood
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On April 04 2017 18:39 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:37 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 15:07 goody153 wrote:Poll: better "G" final roundI (13) 76% O (4) 24% 17 total votes Your vote: better "G" final round (Vote): I
(Vote): O
DREAMS DO HAPPEN OG actually lost a grand finals lol This is the 2nd grand finals they lost!
i don't remember the first one
when was it ?
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is this the first major trophy for burning in how many year ? 5 years ?
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
On April 04 2017 18:39 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:39 Pandemona wrote:On April 04 2017 18:37 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 15:07 goody153 wrote:Poll: better "G" final roundI (13) 76% O (4) 24% 17 total votes Your vote: better "G" final round (Vote): I
(Vote): O
DREAMS DO HAPPEN OG actually lost a grand finals lol This is the 2nd grand finals they lost! i don't remember the first one when was it ?
start of the year!!!!!!
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Dota_Pit_League/Season_5
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IG!!
B god, both of them, deserve this win! gz gz
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Pandemona
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This is great as it means now Major is not even a 2 or 3 sided affair its like 5 or 6!
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i am so moved by burning.
from the greedy carry in 4 protect 1 now he becomes support carry in final.
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Yeah i agree on that, so many good teams right now, its very close.
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On April 04 2017 18:39 Snakesneaks wrote:
is this the first major trophy for burning in how many year ? 5 years ?
3
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On April 04 2017 18:39 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:39 Pandemona wrote:On April 04 2017 18:37 goody153 wrote:On April 04 2017 15:07 goody153 wrote:Poll: better "G" final roundI (13) 76% O (4) 24% 17 total votes Your vote: better "G" final round (Vote): I
(Vote): O
DREAMS DO HAPPEN OG actually lost a grand finals lol This is the 2nd grand finals they lost! i don't remember the first one when was it ?
summit 6? to VP
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On April 04 2017 18:41 Pandemona wrote:
This is great as it means now Major is not even a 2 or 3 sided affair its like 5 or 6!
Exactly! So hyped for the Major now, can't wait!
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On April 04 2017 18:39 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:38 haduken wrote:On April 04 2017 18:38 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Where did this OP guy come from Chinese grass root doto best in the world. but a-god told me the chinese scene was stifling and hostile to fresh blood
it is but you'd be mad to not recognize their strength in quality high level pubs.
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Congrats IG. Everybody on the team played top level dota. Boboka MVP of the tournament.
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boboka MVP of the tournament for me
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On April 04 2017 18:42 ahswtini wrote:
unban azarkon??
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
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didnt wtch g1 or g2, but boboka was a god throughout the tournament, so impressive
His monkey king is out of this world
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On April 04 2017 18:42 ahswtini wrote:
unban azarkon??
meh if you count on how many trophies the western team win this year, not counting the home advantage, and no fresh blood errr.... nope, this newcomers are just a fluke and will die out soon. after this, ig will be found out and western team will be winning again.
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They kinda showed they give up with that LD pick
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Saving strats for Kiev. DAC only 200+k prize pool for 1st
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yeah the major is gonna be lit
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so who else think china going to suck at kiev
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On April 04 2017 18:44 Snakesneaks wrote:meh if you count on how many trophies the western team win this year, not counting the home advantage, and no fresh blood errr.... nope, this newcomers are just a fluke and will die out soon. after this, ig will be found out and western team will be winning again.
meh i want a god back just for the entertainments.
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On April 04 2017 18:45 Papercappu wrote:
so who else think china going to suck at kiev
they probably will lol
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kiev will have DC and Ad finen from the euro side. Still, the Emperor will prevail.
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iG ensures the home crowd will leave the arena smiling
I was rooting for og but it sure warms my heart to see B-god still owning
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The favourites almost never win.
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At Kiev, IG will need to beat VP, DC, and Secret and then they can truly be the slayers of the west.
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On April 04 2017 18:43 Papercappu wrote:
boboka MVP of the tournament for me
+1
Boboka changes the game so much for IG, especially in the early game. He also pressures the draft and requires at least 2 respect bans (MK and ES). Could be 3 now given his Riki dominance.
Xxs changes the first two bans. His Magnus is first-pick tier. His LC is really good too. He also changes the lategame so much with amazing RPs/duels.
OP just wins his lane and does well throughout the whole game consistently. Reminds me of Sumail, but he also often sacrifices himself for Burning be it by bloodstone deny or by farming harder lanes at times when I feel like he shouldn't... then I get proven wrong cause Burning damage suddenly spikes.
Q is a genius, and his clutch rocks probably won them game 3. Beautiful positioning. Drafting, he's really good going standard or switching it up with riki of all things.
Finally Burning. He has completely evolved, and I am simply happy for him. He is the heart of the team, from his popularity, to his steady nerves, to his signature heroes - the foundation for the team, the Chinese Fear. GOAT status. So, so happy for him.
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i started playing dota in burning era so i'm smiling too.
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where is china haters now ?
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On April 04 2017 18:48 babysimba wrote:
The favourites almost never win.
ti6 wings tho
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I don't think they'll change much patchwise for kiev, probably some touches on the meta heroes and illusions. But who knows
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no china hate here, they earned that win, showed og the ropes.
but i would also say kiew goes to a western team. teams like eg and liquid will bootcamp, and be much better there. at least thats my guess.
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On April 04 2017 18:54 Wineandbread wrote:
I don't think they'll change much patchwise for kiev, probably some touches on the meta heroes and illusions. But who knows
i would be happy to see the meta change to be less greedy. too much midas and farming for my taste. A mek would be nice to see..
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Tweak some stuff involving alchemist, illusions, naga and maybe cool down reduction/octarine core.
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i just hope the nerfs kill alchemist
i cannot handle alchemist games anymore
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lol what's up with ppd's shade at China dota. Was I misinterpreting him?
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Thoughts:
Lina talent rework. 30 sec timer will be removed, but as Sumail showed Lina is still really viable without that talent. It's just really useful for a midgame fighting lineup and for the emergency heals from Bloodstone.
Alch rework. I think the concept of Alch is really just so different from most Dota heroes. If ever, his ulti might be drastically changed yet again. I like his other skills though. It's really either ulti change or passive change. Passive kinda makes the concept of Alchemist though, so I think ulti regen will be lowered or cooldown increase will be dramatic. Also maybe a 5-10 minute cooldown on gifting items.
MK rework IMO should be making him draw aggro even when transformed, and lowering damage on mastery. As shown in the grandfinals though, he isn't that much of a threat vs superior teamfight. It's his vision and ability to zone theoretically stronger heroes that's a problem.
Other than that, I'm not really sure what else to change. LS was shown to be not that big of a deal. Jugg is more dangerous IMO with those early pushes using healing ward. Carries in this patch IMO are fine, though some could use buffs (Drow, AM, Morph maybe).
QOP needs to be back in the meta IMO. Buff her.
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On April 04 2017 19:00 Hydrolisko wrote:
lol what's up with ppd's shade at China dota. Was I misinterpreting him?
meh, he was making awful predictions the entire finals too. I don't think hes as clued in as he used to be.
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On April 04 2017 19:07 Grettin wrote:
Clean sweep
damn
OG went full tilt after Alch comitted seppuku top lane.
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On April 04 2017 18:45 Papercappu wrote:
so who else think china going to suck at kiev
I don't think so. Chinese dota 2 scene is very competitive at the moment with an influx of new talent given a chance to play for top teams. DPL going on is good practice for Kiev as well.
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On April 04 2017 19:03 Caladbolg wrote:
Alch rework. I think the concept of Alch is really just so different from most Dota heroes. If ever, his ulti might be drastically changed yet again. I like his other skills though. It's really either ulti change or passive change. Passive kinda makes the concept of Alchemist though, so I think ulti regen will be lowered or cooldown increase will be dramatic. Also maybe a 5-10 minute cooldown on gifting items.
Agreed. AT the very least he should be removed from CM. So sick of that hero
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I don't think China will do as well in Kiev, but it's not for any usual Azarkon reasons.
The tournament was structured so 50% of the teams were from China. So the Chinese teams knew about half of their opponents very well from DPL etc.
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On April 04 2017 20:04 RubickPicker wrote:
I don't think China will do as well in Kiev, but it's not for any usual Azarkon reasons.
The tournament was structured so 50% of the teams were from China. So the Chinese teams knew about half of their opponents very well from DPL etc.
But they still kinda crushed the non-Chinese teams (except for OG).
I think China will do well. Not as well as getting 3 teams in top 4, but maybe 3 teams in top 6. IG and Newbee are definitely tier 1, with IG on top, but IGV and VGJ are decent as well, and to be honest VG main (with END and Ori) are tearing up Chinese leagues as well, taking the most games off IG.
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On April 04 2017 19:47 dutchfriese wrote:OG went full tilt after Alch comitted seppuku top lane.
Alche game one totaly ruin the entire series
whoever lost that fucking alche game will go tilt
in this case its OG
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just catch up with the VODs, goddamn it feels good seeing IG wrecking OG 3-0 in finals
hope this tilts them for the next few tournaments
also fuck alchemist, reduce base int by 5 reduce str agi gain by 0.5 or something
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On April 04 2017 20:23 Caladbolg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 20:04 RubickPicker wrote:
I don't think China will do as well in Kiev, but it's not for any usual Azarkon reasons.
The tournament was structured so 50% of the teams were from China. So the Chinese teams knew about half of their opponents very well from DPL etc. But they still kinda crushed the non-Chinese teams (except for OG). I think China will do well. Not as well as getting 3 teams in top 4, but maybe 3 teams in top 6. IG and Newbee are definitely tier 1, with IG on top, but IGV and VGJ are decent as well, and to be honest VG main (with END and Ori) are tearing up Chinese leagues as well, taking the most games off IG. Saying they crushed them is trying to create a hyperbole. IG were very strong, and Newbee a bit less so, and they also won their group, just like OG and Empire won theirs with 3 chinese teams in it. Empire lost to Newbee and VG.Vit 2-1. VG.J, TL, and EG were a disappointment, and Wings and LFY never hit any stride. There were no crushing defeats until the GF.
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nooo OG , the Riki pick caught them off guard... well, grats to Burning anyway, coming back on top after all this time must be great for him
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Great showing from Burning , as with everyone else on this thread im for the "kill alch" brigade , that hero is just the bane of fun dota , you shut him down in lane , he farms , you shut him down in the mid game ? he is still 5k ahead , you didnt shut him down in lane or mid game ? he is 20k to your carry 10k , and then late game comes and he farms like a rocket pumping gold to the team , hero is boring and disugsting to watch , 50min games all the time unless he snowballed himself and then its 30 min raxes for the Alch team , hate the hero , hate the concept as well , borrrrring to watch and cheesy as f****k
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There should be a brawling Alch comeback, like the TI3 era Alch.
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On April 04 2017 18:53 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:ti6 wings tho
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Wings was never even remotely close to being a favorite, more like a total hit or miss team that caught fire in the middle of the tournament. They were considered one of the better teams coming out of China at the time (top 3 depending on whether they could stop trolling themselves on the pick screen), however the West teams at the time like EG and OG were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more favored.
iG played well this tournament, but we'll see how they do when they no longer can just surprise people with their picks and people have had time to prepare for them. It's nice to see that Burning no longer has to be a dominant core anymore where he has to farm big time and put his team on his backpack like back in the old days.
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On April 05 2017 20:31 superstartran wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:53 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On April 04 2017 18:48 babysimba wrote:
The favourites almost never win. ti6 wings tho ? Wings was never even remotely close to being a favorite, more like a total hit or miss team that caught fire in the middle of the tournament. They were considered one of the better teams coming out of China at the time (top 3 depending on whether they could stop trolling themselves on the pick screen), however the West teams at the time like EG and OG were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more favored. iG played well this tournament, but we'll see how they do when they no longer can just surprise people with their picks and people have had time to prepare for them. It's nice to see that Burning no longer has to be a dominant core anymore where he has to farm big time and put his team on his backpack like back in the old days.
Huh. Wings won two stacked tournaments prior to TI6 in dominant fashion and with out-of-meta picks. Sure they kinda flunked the major before it, but they were definitely one of the favorites.
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On April 05 2017 20:31 superstartran wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2017 18:53 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On April 04 2017 18:48 babysimba wrote:
The favourites almost never win. ti6 wings tho ? Wings was never even remotely close to being a favorite, more like a total hit or miss team that caught fire in the middle of the tournament. They were considered one of the better teams coming out of China at the time (top 3 depending on whether they could stop trolling themselves on the pick screen), however the West teams at the time like EG and OG were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more favored. iG played well this tournament, but we'll see how they do when they no longer can just surprise people with their picks and people have had time to prepare for them. It's nice to see that Burning no longer has to be a dominant core anymore where he has to farm big time and put his team on his backpack like back in the old days.
whaat Wings won a couple of tournaments before TI. Aside from OG, wings were the next favorites in TI
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