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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 07 2016 19:58 GMT
#361
i feel like faith bian didn't play a great clock this game. Lots of really useless cogs, never found good hook opportunities.
:)
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
December 07 2016 19:59 GMT
#362
On December 08 2016 04:58 synapse wrote:
i feel like faith bian didn't play a great clock this game. Lots of really useless cogs, never found good hook opportunities.

If we are straight not a single person played a great game on wings.

Maybe it's just Virtus.Plow recipe: pick Naix-Slardar@win dota.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 20:00:30
December 07 2016 19:59 GMT
#363
On December 08 2016 04:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 04:55 Shergal wrote:
even with that laning phase SS is just garbo

that kind of push strat doesn't work anymore unless you're bashing their face in at every tower

You do understand that EG were rolling them with invis all game long and the only thing that ever worked for them here was SS?

SS instead of a hero that helps win fights

instead it settles them into this "sit at tower" playstyle so it's just free initiations for invis'd slardar bombs and they have no save
smilingjuggernaut
Profile Joined November 2016
74 Posts
December 07 2016 20:01 GMT
#364
Alchemist what a hero
Shadow Demon what a hero
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
December 07 2016 20:02 GMT
#365
Whoever wins this match, I'm glad my bracket has them losing to VP next round. Neither team looked like a major winner.
SUNSFANNED
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
December 07 2016 20:03 GMT
#366
On December 08 2016 04:59 Shergal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 04:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On December 08 2016 04:55 Shergal wrote:
even with that laning phase SS is just garbo

that kind of push strat doesn't work anymore unless you're bashing their face in at every tower

You do understand that EG were rolling them with invis all game long and the only thing that ever worked for them here was SS?

SS instead of a hero that helps win fights

instead it settles them into this "sit at tower" playstyle so it's just free initiations for invis'd slardar bombs and they have no save

WD pick did not help either.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
December 07 2016 20:05 GMT
#367
I find it a joke that disruption is a better spell than wall of replica.

Disruption needs a nerf in illusion tankiness so badly.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
December 07 2016 20:05 GMT
#368
The other problem with SS is that it doesn't let you rotate supports for ganks.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
MintberryCrunchs
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany462 Posts
December 07 2016 20:05 GMT
#369
The moment Wings push isnt gettin through, not only SS but also Jugger loose a lot of purpose in this draft imo!
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
December 07 2016 20:06 GMT
#370
yeah the 1st phase jugg got fairly dealt with as well

but the thing is as was said, wings were really subpar technically, which is generally something that doesn't improve from game1 to game2. they either outdraft eg hard or they're gonna stumble themselves into a 0-2 imo
smilingjuggernaut
Profile Joined November 2016
74 Posts
December 07 2016 20:07 GMT
#371
On December 08 2016 05:05 babysimba wrote:
I find it a joke that disruption is a better spell than wall of replica.

Disruption needs a nerf in illusion tankiness so badly.

Disruption used to be a good spell then these changes happened

6.86 Increased Disruption icon.png Disruption​ illusion duration from 5/6/7/8 to 6/8/10/12

6.87 Increased Disruption icon.png Disruption​ illusion damage dealt from 30%/40%/50%/60% to 30%/45%/60%/75%

6.88 Increased Disruption icon.png Disruption​ illusion duration from 6/8/10/12 to 8/10/12/14.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
December 07 2016 20:08 GMT
#372
On December 08 2016 05:06 Shergal wrote:
yeah the 1st phase jugg got fairly dealt with as well

but the thing is as was said, wings were really subpar technically, which is generally something that doesn't improve from game1 to game2. they either outdraft eg hard or they're gonna stumble themselves into a 0-2 imo

The bright side is that EG did not look sharp either so there is some room to win this bo3.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
December 07 2016 20:11 GMT
#373
money change people boys
The Real Power~
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
December 07 2016 20:12 GMT
#374
On December 08 2016 05:11 Zea! wrote:
money change people boys

That's why EG always kick TI winners. 2 TI winners > 5 TI winners
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
December 07 2016 20:12 GMT
#375
winter with the godlike predictions as always, by far my favorite analyst
MintberryCrunchs
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany462 Posts
December 07 2016 20:15 GMT
#376
Ogre not picked or banned first phase?!

I feel like i lost touch with the meta!
Absalom
Profile Joined April 2016
United States8 Posts
December 07 2016 20:16 GMT
#377
On December 08 2016 05:12 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 05:11 Zea! wrote:
money change people boys

That's why EG always kick TI winners. 2 TI winners > 5 TI winners

And thats why complexity beat them 0 TI> 2TI winners
Anyone who sees and paints a sky green and fields blue ought to be sterilized.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
December 07 2016 20:17 GMT
#378
I wouldn't mind surprise Pugna for EG's last pick.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
December 07 2016 20:20 GMT
#379
The enigma and chen bans are either too-meta for me or are just blank bans to keep the pool opened up
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
December 07 2016 20:21 GMT
#380
LEARNING FROM TI7 CHAMPS COL
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