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Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 18:16:38
December 07 2016 18:13 GMT
#241
On December 08 2016 03:01 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 02:57 Reson wrote:
On December 08 2016 02:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On December 08 2016 02:53 babysimba wrote:
It's fine ff group stage is a proper round robin to seed properly


If it was up to me, I would have 2 groups of 8 (well ideally 2 groups of 10)... They all do a Bo2 round robin, and then bottom two get eliminated, and 1 from Group A plays 8 From Group B, 2 from 7, etc.


Not enough time. Group of 8 Bo2 takes 3 days + potential tiebreaks.



Yeah, 4 streams = 40 games played per day, so yeah, with tiebreaks and all, 3 days for everything - since 90 or 112 games played depending on the format.

Then at 4 Bo3 a day: 2 days for Ro16, 1 day for Ro8, and then 1 day for semifinals + finals.

So that's a week long event, not much different from the 6 they are doing now.


Its one extra day. I meant no time in terms of what Valve had set for this tournament. The group stage the way they are right now is also very clean for the teams, one day games one day off.

If they could add one day to the main event, I would like them to do a DE + SE mix with SE once you have top 8. You only add 4 Bo3s. I have it in more detail in the format thread but essentially 1 round of WB and 2 rounds of LB then SE.

Pure SE is bad it Valve need the ranking of the teams to matter. A mixed way gives a slightly better idea of Top8.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
December 07 2016 18:15 GMT
#242
I just wish there were more BO5's if they were doing single elimination

like maybe quarter finals on
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 07 2016 18:15 GMT
#243
On December 08 2016 03:15 Comeh wrote:
I just wish there were more BO5's if they were doing single elimination

like maybe quarter finals on

how much time do you think they have lol
WriterXiao8~~
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
December 07 2016 18:20 GMT
#244
On December 08 2016 03:15 Comeh wrote:
I just wish there were more BO5's if they were doing single elimination

like maybe quarter finals on


Semis would be possible at future events cause you only need one more day.
OR
If they dont have to have all 16 teams make main event we can do 8 teams main event with all Bo5. It also increases the flexibility of what can be done to determine the Top 8. Too many people would complain though so it probably wont happen.

MintberryCrunchs
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany462 Posts
December 07 2016 18:24 GMT
#245
Get hyped Boyz n Girls - it is about to happen!!!

On a site note - i really do enjoy the production and especially machine!
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
December 07 2016 18:25 GMT
#246
Yeah, EG eliminationgetting cloer
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
December 07 2016 18:25 GMT
#247
LETS GO EGGGGGG
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4401 Posts
December 07 2016 18:26 GMT
#248
The only truly fair way to decide a winner is a single group round robin. Each team plays the other 15 in a best of 3 and whoever finishes top is the winner. No knockout rounds. But that would take too long and be far less hype than knockouts.
Sucker for nostalgia
Absalom
Profile Joined April 2016
United States8 Posts
December 07 2016 18:27 GMT
#249
All 4 NA teams in top 8 soon tm
Anyone who sees and paints a sky green and fields blue ought to be sterilized.
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
December 07 2016 18:29 GMT
#250
On December 08 2016 03:26 DropBear wrote:
The only truly fair way to decide a winner is a single group round robin. Each team plays the other 15 in a best of 3 and whoever finishes top is the winner. No knockout rounds. But that would take too long and be far less hype than knockouts.

if it wasn't because intra-regional dota isn't big enough we could have stable leagues for places where pings line up and then TI as the sort of CL to end the season

i mean if you do a yearlong league with 10-20 teams maybe you can fit it, but nobody would want to travel that much
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
December 07 2016 18:29 GMT
#251
On December 08 2016 03:27 Absalom wrote:
All 4 NA teams in top 8 soon tm


yameswriting"delusional"onwhiteboard.jpg

I'll be surprised if EG wins this. They couldn't do it with PPD and I haven't seen cr1t outdraft any team that is at least on EG's level
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 07 2016 18:34 GMT
#252
On December 08 2016 03:13 Reson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 03:01 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On December 08 2016 02:57 Reson wrote:
On December 08 2016 02:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On December 08 2016 02:53 babysimba wrote:
It's fine ff group stage is a proper round robin to seed properly


If it was up to me, I would have 2 groups of 8 (well ideally 2 groups of 10)... They all do a Bo2 round robin, and then bottom two get eliminated, and 1 from Group A plays 8 From Group B, 2 from 7, etc.


Not enough time. Group of 8 Bo2 takes 3 days + potential tiebreaks.



Yeah, 4 streams = 40 games played per day, so yeah, with tiebreaks and all, 3 days for everything - since 90 or 112 games played depending on the format.

Then at 4 Bo3 a day: 2 days for Ro16, 1 day for Ro8, and then 1 day for semifinals + finals.

So that's a week long event, not much different from the 6 they are doing now.


Its one extra day. I meant no time in terms of what Valve had set for this tournament. The group stage the way they are right now is also very clean for the teams, one day games one day off.

If they could add one day to the main event, I would like them to do a DE + SE mix with SE once you have top 8. You only add 4 Bo3s. I have it in more detail in the format thread but essentially 1 round of WB and 2 rounds of LB then SE.

Pure SE is bad it Valve need the ranking of the teams to matter. A mixed way gives a slightly better idea of Top8.


I think pure DE would rank teams better than the mix, but SE has more hype, so it's a tradeoff. I think a mixed system where it's DE into SE could be good for sure, keeping the hype, but getting better order of the results. The only issue is if it'd be too confusing for people, which it really shouldn't be, but sometimes super simplicity goes a long way.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 07 2016 18:35 GMT
#253
LD, I have to complain again. I want to wager my LD coins with other people on who will win games.

EG will take this easy.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
December 07 2016 18:38 GMT
#254
That background music during Slacks' interviews is starting to grind on me
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
December 07 2016 18:40 GMT
#255
this is like evening news montage music for a piece on grocery shopping

what is it doing here
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
December 07 2016 18:41 GMT
#256
On December 08 2016 03:38 Moobutt wrote:
That background music during Slacks' interviews is starting to grind on me


Its way too loud on the headphones.
Envy fan since NTH.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
December 07 2016 18:41 GMT
#257
"pro team complexity" lmfao
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
December 07 2016 18:42 GMT
#258
artour knows the deep shame of losing to swindlememez

oh god EE infected him with the anime way of thinking
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 07 2016 18:42 GMT
#259
I like the terra freedom thing from Slacks.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
December 07 2016 18:44 GMT
#260
these interviews are pretty good so far
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