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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
December 07 2016 17:53 GMT
#221
It's fine ff group stage is a proper round robin to seed properly
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
December 07 2016 17:53 GMT
#222
On December 08 2016 02:51 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 02:50 Yhamm wrote:
On December 08 2016 02:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On December 08 2016 02:47 Theoren wrote:
On December 08 2016 02:47 Dysisa wrote:
This game wouldn't have been even half as hype if this wasn't single elim.


Agreed, I know people don't like it, but I much prefer single elim.


Let's take a guess how many 1/2 (in groups) finishers end up making it out of Ro16?

I'm guessing 5.

group stage would be at fault, not the SE bracket


Yeah, you're right. I think single eliminitation is fine, even good... Just the seeding and stuff previously needs to be done right.


It's tough because there aren't regular seasons or anything that can determine seeding easily, though. Like, how else do you do it besides group stages?
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Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
December 07 2016 17:54 GMT
#223
well I'm looking forward to EG losing to wings and then giving a few people the boot

you don't lose to swindlememez twice and even pretend you have a chance against teams of this quality
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
December 07 2016 17:54 GMT
#224
That chase on Mirana bot might have cost IgV the game, he bought so much time while still having buyback.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 17:57:36
December 07 2016 17:55 GMT
#225
On December 08 2016 02:53 babysimba wrote:
It's fine ff group stage is a proper round robin to seed properly


If it was up to me, I would have 2 groups of 8 (well ideally 2 groups of 10)... They all do a Bo2 round robin, and then bottom two get eliminated, and 1 from Group A plays 8 From Group B, 2 from 7, etc.

The TI that had a 16-man round robin was 120 games... A Bo2 round robin for 8 teams with 2 groups is 112 games, for 10 teams it's 180 games. Maybe with 10 teams a Bo1 round robin would be enough, which would make it 90 games.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
December 07 2016 17:55 GMT
#226
On December 08 2016 02:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
VP WIN

What is this traitor flair you have?
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
December 07 2016 17:55 GMT
#227
On December 08 2016 02:47 Achaian wrote:
what a crowd, what a game of dota... reminds me of TI3


Its the venue too. Wang Theatre has a similar feel to Benaroya Hall compared to an arena.

Would have loved to see a game 3 but Ig.v werent clean enough. Both the Luna chasing that kill to T4 after the mid ranged rax and the buyback was unnecessary. Should have been a B line to the bottom rax or out by Luna. Even if she dies you might already have Megas with Alch ready to defend.

In the heat of the moment its not so clear of course. I think Luna also got tricked by the Weaver Aghs.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
December 07 2016 17:55 GMT
#228
On December 08 2016 02:54 BigO wrote:
That chase on Mirana bot might have cost IgV the game, he bought so much time while still having buyback.

Not really. What cost them the game is going full pub after that alchemist fight.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
December 07 2016 17:56 GMT
#229
On December 08 2016 02:55 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 02:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
VP WIN

What is this traitor flair you have?

The rare one.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
December 07 2016 17:57 GMT
#230
On December 08 2016 02:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 02:53 babysimba wrote:
It's fine ff group stage is a proper round robin to seed properly


If it was up to me, I would have 2 groups of 8 (well ideally 2 groups of 10)... They all do a Bo2 round robin, and then bottom two get eliminated, and 1 from Group A plays 8 From Group B, 2 from 7, etc.


Not enough time. Group of 8 Bo2 takes 3 days + potential tiebreaks.

cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 18:00:05
December 07 2016 17:58 GMT
#231
Slacks is making the interviews too much about himself and not about the interviewee. And he's not really helping the players who don't speak english well as much as he could.
super gg
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 07 2016 17:59 GMT
#232
On December 08 2016 02:55 Reson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 02:47 Achaian wrote:
what a crowd, what a game of dota... reminds me of TI3


Its the venue too. Wang Theatre has a similar feel to Benaroya Hall compared to an arena.

Would have loved to see a game 3 but Ig.v werent clean enough. Both the Luna chasing that kill to T4 after the mid ranged rax and the buyback was unnecessary. Should have been a B line to the bottom rax or out by Luna. Even if she dies you might already have Megas with Alch ready to defend.

In the heat of the moment its not so clear of course. I think Luna also got tricked by the Weaver Aghs.

I agree. I'm sure if the luna ran to the bot ranged rax, she could kill it and there was nothing VP could do about it.
super gg
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
December 07 2016 18:01 GMT
#233
Weatherman's back!
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 18:02:25
December 07 2016 18:01 GMT
#234
On December 08 2016 02:57 Reson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 02:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On December 08 2016 02:53 babysimba wrote:
It's fine ff group stage is a proper round robin to seed properly


If it was up to me, I would have 2 groups of 8 (well ideally 2 groups of 10)... They all do a Bo2 round robin, and then bottom two get eliminated, and 1 from Group A plays 8 From Group B, 2 from 7, etc.


Not enough time. Group of 8 Bo2 takes 3 days + potential tiebreaks.



Yeah, 4 streams = 40 games played per day, so yeah, with tiebreaks and all, 3 days for everything - since 90 or 112 games played depending on the format.

Then at 4 Bo3 a day: 2 days for Ro16, 1 day for Ro8, and then 1 day for semifinals + finals.

So that's a week long event, not much different from the 6 they are doing now.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
December 07 2016 18:03 GMT
#235
single elim delivers
6nnn
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
December 07 2016 18:04 GMT
#236
On December 08 2016 02:53 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 02:51 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On December 08 2016 02:50 Yhamm wrote:
On December 08 2016 02:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On December 08 2016 02:47 Theoren wrote:
On December 08 2016 02:47 Dysisa wrote:
This game wouldn't have been even half as hype if this wasn't single elim.


Agreed, I know people don't like it, but I much prefer single elim.


Let's take a guess how many 1/2 (in groups) finishers end up making it out of Ro16?

I'm guessing 5.

group stage would be at fault, not the SE bracket


Yeah, you're right. I think single eliminitation is fine, even good... Just the seeding and stuff previously needs to be done right.


It's tough because there aren't regular seasons or anything that can determine seeding easily, though. Like, how else do you do it besides group stages?


More people would be crying about SE if VP lost. Group stage results dont matter once the bracket is set. It doesnt matter how many 1/2 teams make it out of Bo16.

You can do a bigger group stage and seed top placed teams further in the bracket but people complained so much about TI4.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 18:05:40
December 07 2016 18:04 GMT
#237
i think single elimination for majors are ok. it makes TI more important.just fix the shitty seedings

edit: wtf is this shit
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 18:07:34
December 07 2016 18:07 GMT
#238
As a Bostonian, this is amazing.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10834 Posts
December 07 2016 18:12 GMT
#239
Single elimination is just awesome. Shit actually matters, but they sould determine seeding earlier so we can go straight into the action like in tennis.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
December 07 2016 18:13 GMT
#240
man that series was hyped as fuck

proving why dota is the premier esport ^_^
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