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Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
Poll: Who Advances Group A Team Liquid (9) Alliance (8) Fnatic (7) 24 total votes Your vote: Who Advances Group A | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
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Daaktard
Sweden380 Posts
On June 18 2016 10:03 Kamisamanachi wrote: Hoping for fnatic to advance from group A and navi to advance from B. But given the wonky nature of drafts ,anything can happen . If Fnatic keep playing as they did against Alliance it'll be a fast exit. Liquid wont be as forgiving. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On June 18 2016 11:31 Daaktard wrote: If Fnatic keep playing as they did against Alliance it'll be a fast exit. Liquid wont be as forgiving. Yea. It felt like they were too overconfident after that stomp at major and slacked too much in their plays, especially their gameplan and shotcalling was lazy . Hope they learnt their lesson yesterday | ||
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Gear 3rd
1244 Posts
Sry that's all I can come up with at 7:30 am | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On June 18 2016 14:21 Gear 3rd wrote: Hope for more Fata-lity and less uncl-heen drafts... Sry that's all I can come up with at 7:30 am It was decent xD Is fata playing today tho? | ||
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Gear 3rd
1244 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On June 18 2016 16:57 Gear 3rd wrote: Liquid is on stage and I think I saw Fata. Not 100% sure but I think heen was standing behind them Nice .. it will be fun match to watch. Are u at stadium atm? | ||
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Gear 3rd
1244 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On June 18 2016 17:27 Gear 3rd wrote: Yessir. It's still filling up we were pretty early. Watch out for a green beanie in first row of the back segment Oh nice.. | ||
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Keardan
Netherlands527 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On June 18 2016 17:28 Keardan wrote: I'm quite possibly stupid or not awake yet, but how do these brackets work? Gsl format? Loser of both matches from group a yesterday fight first. Loser of this match will be eliminated. Winner will fight alliance to secure spot in semifinals | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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Keardan
Netherlands527 Posts
On June 18 2016 17:30 Kamisamanachi wrote: Gsl format? Loser of both matches from group a yesterday fight first. Loser of this match will be eliminated. Winner will fight alliance to secure spot in semifinals OK, thanks! | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
I love it. I really do. | ||
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an00bis
156 Posts
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Farone
Netherlands1219 Posts
and then the fnatic JW face:D | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On June 18 2016 17:35 CorsairHero wrote: dj = dota jesus? lol That's what they call him in sea xD | ||
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Keardan
Netherlands527 Posts
Edit: whoah that's a lot of volume! | ||
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fixed_point
Germany4891 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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Keardan
Netherlands527 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
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Danzo
2820 Posts
On June 18 2016 17:51 Kamisamanachi wrote: https://twitter.com/ReiNNNN/status/744085504858140672 | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
Yeah..just saw it. | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
heen was sitting in the crowd lol | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
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Vadrigar
Bulgaria2379 Posts
 http://vbox7.com/ESL2016 | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38255 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On June 18 2016 17:58 Kamisamanachi wrote: Slardar + tusk opening ..wut Deny picks | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Liquid with the fun testing drafts  Curious how Fata plays it | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On June 18 2016 18:03 LemOn wrote: Hahaha Liquid with the fun testing drafts Curious how Fata plays it What is testing in that draft.looks like classic liquid draft to me besides pa pick which has good synergy with ds ion shell | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Medusa will wreck us unless we somehow deny her farm :D | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
cause this PA is wack. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On June 18 2016 18:04 Kamisamanachi wrote: What is testing in that draft.looks like classic liquid draft to me besides pa pick which has good synergy with ds ion shell They don't usually pick riki this early (and without naix. And with Earth Spirit) + they are obviously testing PA viability. Kuro was fun/awesome on it. but Sven blown her up. Kinda afraid Dusa ulti will shit on him lategame too | ||
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maze.
Germany1392 Posts
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Keardan
Netherlands527 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On June 18 2016 18:07 Keardan wrote: This talent team is very comfortable at savaging each other Well, the carry on the other side of the Maelk Award game kind of ensures it was going to happen. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Freaking Slardar pwning Liquid | ||
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maze.
Germany1392 Posts
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Daray
6006 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On June 18 2016 18:24 Daray wrote: Horrible draft from Liquid. It's the same as yesterday with their PA draft... they just can't team fight at all. I don't think they care. Meaningless prizepool (compared to upcoming TI), sick Fata - it's testing time. AND THEY ARE DOING IT HAHAHAHAHA this team is just awesome | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On June 18 2016 18:32 HammerKick wrote: wait, fata's back? Yeah, still sick but soldering on! | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Keardan
Netherlands527 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Fnatic getting ouplayed | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On June 18 2016 18:39 Keardan wrote: Being a fan of Liquid is so bad for my heart rate. They are drafting for viewer pleasure it seems :D | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
guess its good for them to test it. | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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Keardan
Netherlands527 Posts
On June 18 2016 18:39 LemOn wrote: They are drafting for viewer pleasure it seems :D My heart rate! Liquid seem to know so very well when to team fight and keep on going. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Teamfights, items (Clear blink Jugger, Blink Forcestaff slardar game. Linken Dusa was just plain stupid). Mushi was just a sad creep there, completely ignored :D | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On June 18 2016 18:47 Kipsate wrote: this PA coulda been any other hero and they woulda won too, not impressed by the PA pick guess its good for them to test it. Which hero could offer this kind of burst damage associated with 50% dmg reduction against all ennemy damage? | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
On June 18 2016 18:06 maze. wrote: 5melee vs medusa. Gonna be a tough game for liquid. Manta and Linkins. I hope Mushi learns from this. Deserves to lose. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On June 18 2016 18:50 nojok wrote: Which hero could offer this kind of burst damage associated with 50% dmg reduction against all ennemy damage? We'll see, I don't think us nor Liquid are convinced in her being a viable pick She should have been blown up so easily but Liquid'd positioning was godlike as always and they just kept outplaying them. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On June 18 2016 18:52 LemOn wrote: We'll see, I don't think us nor Liquid are convinced in her being a viable pick Fnatic's line up relied entirely on right clicks and blinked allowed to dodge everything outside of slithereen crush and bypassing dusa, eventually PA did some good work 8 2 11 while tanking so many things | ||
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V1ctor
Moldova1645 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On June 18 2016 18:58 V1ctor wrote: Erm..who is that new guy at the panel with the indian accent? SexyBamboe | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
On June 18 2016 18:58 V1ctor wrote: Erm..who is that new guy at the panel with the indian accent? SexyBamboe http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/SexyBamboe About the game, this is not the first time Mushi completely fucked up an item build. Tunnel visioning that linkens manta build on Dusa. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On June 18 2016 18:57 nojok wrote: Fnatic's line up relied entirely on right clicks and blinked allowed to dodge everything outside of slithereen crush and bypassing dusa, eventually PA did some good work 8 2 11 while tanking so many things Yeah they didn't understand what was going on clearly Blink on Jugg, blink force on slardar, and way more punch heavy Dusa build to compensate | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
damn he looks like a goblin rofl | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Bleh game's over  | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On June 18 2016 19:16 LemOn wrote: come on liquid, a fun last pick! Bleh game's over Told you before , Liquid arent messing around , ppl think "hey its not that kind of money" and shit like this , first it IS a lot of money for someone with short carrer , second its their home crowd in the main event and last those guys are competitors who hate to lose in a pub so for sure they are not happy or "dont care" when they lose officials | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38255 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38255 Posts
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Snakesneaks
Italy2652 Posts
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
Stop doing that. | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34491 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
EDIT: ROFL, dat chrono | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34491 Posts
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Kreb
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Elurie
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On June 18 2016 19:32 bluzi wrote: Told you before , Liquid arent messing around , ppl think "hey its not that kind of money" and shit like this , first it IS a lot of money for someone with short carrer , second its their home crowd in the main event and last those guys are competitors who hate to lose in a pub so for sure they are not happy or "dont care" when they lose officials Eh they went either new stuff with PA, lol drafts yesterday or totally standard draft this game. But hey - if Fnatic just hands those to them why not take a freewin | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On June 18 2016 20:06 Elurie wrote: They are playing on stage? Yup. All of Days 2 & 3 are on stage. It was ESL's response to the Single Elimination Bracket being unliked by a lot of top teams. And fans, as well. You still get to see everyone play on stage at least once, and at least twice for 6 of 8 teams. | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On June 18 2016 20:11 Taf the Ghost wrote: Yup. All of Days 2 & 3 are on stage. It was ESL's response to the Single Elimination Bracket being unliked by a lot of top teams. And fans, as well. You still get to see everyone play on stage at least once, and at least twice for 6 of 8 teams. I like it Breaks are annoying But still cool to see the crowd there | ||
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Gear 3rd
1244 Posts
Also obligatory woooooooh liquid goooo | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On June 18 2016 20:19 LemOn wrote: I like it Breaks are annoying But still cool to see the crowd there It's also a good format for a "2 Day" tournament, at least in-stadium. You avoid the issue inherent in a Single Elimination when it comes to Dota, and the team that outright wins their group gets a day off. Good trade off for all involved. | ||
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bluzi
4703 Posts
they played 2 games in like 5 hours or something ? | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34491 Posts
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bluzi
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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tns
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
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Czech Republic2040 Posts
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On June 18 2016 21:22 nojok wrote: VP could really use a big AoE stun those last 2 fights... Yoku just hitting creeps non stop this game really poor showing for the amount of space and ez lane he got. | ||
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On June 18 2016 21:28 1nobody wrote: What is this game? Tide the most farmed hero. Yha he is , but thats becuase he is farming all game leaving his team 4v5 all the time | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
Just awful play. | ||
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On June 18 2016 21:14 DwD wrote: Navi losing all lanes gg out already Or maybe wait for VP to throw? | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On June 18 2016 21:08 bluzi wrote: by the way i HATE invis heroes , feels like such a cheap thing to use ..... both riki and BH are disgusting to me And when you are the five support, you just buy dust and wards and you are poor forever. | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
Poll: Who's the bigger macho man? Matumbaman (5) Pfft ... Me. (4) Dendi (1) 10 total votes Your vote: Who's the bigger macho man? | ||
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Elurie
4716 Posts
On June 18 2016 21:32 mutantmagnet wrote: Poll: Who's the bigger macho man? Matumbaman (5) Pfft ... Me. (4) Dendi (1) 10 total votes Your vote: Who's the bigger macho man? Are you lactose intolerant? Where's the milk option? | ||
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Xendarii
327 Posts
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Daray
6006 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On June 18 2016 21:48 Xendarii wrote: VP playing like the absolute trash team that they are. That was embarassing. I put it all on the Tide , you dont get to be a greedy tide when facing a Jug + Slark against VP lineup you need to push HARD and team fight early , they didnt and they lost , with the kind of start they had they should close out this game 8/10 times if played correctly , they had Navi on the ropes wobbling from a left hook but never capitlized. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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Kreb
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Denmark4618 Posts
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
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Kreb
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Italy2652 Posts
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Ireland172 Posts
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
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Xendarii
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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wims80
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Ufnal
Poland1435 Posts
Also, why no hype and only 7 pages? | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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Exoteric
Australia2330 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On June 19 2016 00:06 Ufnal wrote: That's what I call overstaying one's welcome. Also, why no hype and only 7 pages? Unfortunate that the event is right after Major | ||
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Snakesneaks
Italy2652 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
VP's biggest issue was that they had no way to take down towers quick enough after pick off in the early game --> poor cores other than G, and thus Slark and Void couldn't get items quick enough to out damage the Phoenix' heal ... | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
G to Secret one time baby | ||
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
On June 19 2016 00:14 LemOn wrote: Na'vi hold the top CIS crown G to Secret one time baby nah g's no idiot. altho i can definitely see him leaving vp. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
He has been "not good" for quite some time, but you can see the skill is still there | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0G2lCZU.jpg) | ||
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V1ctor
Moldova1645 Posts
On June 19 2016 00:30 nayumi wrote: Give the 2,000 euro to her already ... So...got any more pictures of her? )) | ||
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Gear 3rd
1244 Posts
Up close it is absolutely sick. But the competition is really hard | ||
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Nebula
England780 Posts
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WakaDoDo
Sweden1183 Posts
On June 19 2016 00:33 Nebula wrote: Lot's of decent cosplays this time tbh. You liked the femslark huh, I know I did. | ||
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Weirdkid
Singapore2431 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + So good we couldn't see it | ||
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pellejohnson
United States1931 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
He seems like someone whose wife never let him talk at home, so he just has to unload all of his speeches during the short panel duration :/ | ||
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bluzi
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Daray
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Daray
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WakaDoDo
Sweden1183 Posts
On June 19 2016 00:54 Daray wrote: Is the stream audio out of sync? Slightly? | ||
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WakaDoDo
Sweden1183 Posts
On June 19 2016 00:47 bluzi wrote: Cap going with Ill pick Alliance and look smart if they win and if they lose "Well its Liquid 2nd best team in the world what did you expect" Thats not what we're doing tho, right? EDIT: woops mighty double post. | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
On June 19 2016 00:43 nayumi wrote: Is Nahaz married? He seems like someone whose wife never let him talk at home, so he just has to unload all of his speeches during the short panel duration :/ Haha this made my day!  | ||
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On June 19 2016 00:55 WakaDoDo wrote: Thats not what we're doing tho, right? EDIT: woops mighty double post. Im picking Liquid but i want Alliance to win , if i was a pro caster that needs to give his proffesional opinion there is 0 reasons to pick Alliance here aside from what i wrote. | ||
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pellejohnson
United States1931 Posts
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wims80
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nRoot
Germany928 Posts
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lowdice
Sweden306 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
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bluzi
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Elurie
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On June 19 2016 00:43 nayumi wrote: Is Nahaz married? He seems like someone whose wife never let him talk at home, so he just has to unload all of his speeches during the short panel duration :/ He's a professor. He has plenty of opportunity to talk. | ||
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Thetwinmasters
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bluzi
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pellejohnson
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wims80
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Dysisa
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Warfie
Norway2846 Posts
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Porcupinathy
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On June 19 2016 01:21 Dysisa wrote: Who the heck is ODPixels co-caster? Aside from Blitz, that is. Bamboe | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On June 19 2016 01:21 Dysisa wrote: Who the heck is ODPixels co-caster? Aside from Blitz, that is. sexybamboe | ||
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
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Warfie
Norway2846 Posts
On June 19 2016 01:24 M.S.Bismarck wrote: + Show Spoiler + https://twitter.com/SunSh4dow/status/744115367241457664 that's pretty much the unfunniest tweet I've seen for years | ||
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kju
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
On June 19 2016 01:26 Warfie wrote: that's pretty much the unfunniest tweet I've seen for years Yeah that's actually a retarded tweet. That joke has been beaten to death and proven wrong over and over. Mind_Control is quicky becoming the "can only play x heroes-guy" | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
Restrain yourself, Gustav. Restrain yourself. | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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bluzi
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amiGo_O
Czech Republic959 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
ET pretty stronk. | ||
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bluzi
4703 Posts
so many bad plays by him costing us the game | ||
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maze.
Germany1392 Posts
Just take rosh and control the game. | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
#decisions | ||
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bluzi
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Tegenaria
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On June 19 2016 01:52 bluzi wrote: Saddest game i ever seen alliance play for a while , No roars no push no nothing , just run around like headless chickens well thats because they seem to lack confidence, and the other team does force them into those bad decisions. but some of those are are just bad plays from single members to be honest. | ||
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On June 19 2016 01:53 Faruko wrote: Come on, dont be too harsh, is liquid we are talking about here not some random tier2 team. Sure , but they actually did win the team fights they had no choice to fight , other then that just got picked off by a Slark what a surprise!!! actually team fighting was better for them but they played scared as hell They just have no confidence | ||
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GiveMeYourtTots
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On June 19 2016 01:56 GiveMeYourtTots wrote: Rofl what is this draft? How did they expect to kill timber and slark with 1 stun? Like seriouly, what the fuck is (the literally worst hero in the game) a sd and an enchantress supposed to do in this game? Im telling you the sad thing is that they won all 3 team fights in the game , they just got picked off non stop | ||
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Zea!
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zul
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
of course you have to get to that point first. | ||
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wims80
1892 Posts
On June 19 2016 01:53 Faruko wrote: Come on, dont be too harsh, is liquid we are talking about here not some random tier2 team. Alliance could have beaten Liquid in this game | ||
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lowdice
Sweden306 Posts
passive, passive, oh let's get aggresive while getting rosh, get rekt. =/ | ||
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On June 19 2016 02:02 Kipsate wrote: The idea behind the SD is that you siege high ground with the TB, make illusions of the TB to get even more Metamorphosis illusions to destroy the base of course you have to get to that point first. Or try... they didnt even try , in no point in the game (until it was wayyy too late) they were in a point they couldnt fight , if anything playing as 5 is better when you have a slark running around with 5k behind your TB getting kills on your solo pushers in lanes. i actually thought they did great early shutting down the Tide and farming on everyone..... eeeefffffffffffffffff | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
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lowdice
Sweden306 Posts
On June 19 2016 02:04 Laserist wrote: Once rat, forever rat. Well deserved loss. Maybe A should try to learn something other than ratting. yawn. | ||
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amiGo_O
Czech Republic959 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On June 19 2016 02:09 BurningSera wrote: do feel like A trying to rat when they are not even with rat heroes...i mean, loda is not great at TB isnt it Why ? how did you feel Loda played bad this game ? he was actually the only guy doing his job , AB did nothing with that beast master , like nothing at all ...... | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
"skill never a question with Alliance players" S4 and Loda have been struggling for months now | ||
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Zea!
9589 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On June 19 2016 02:17 Zea! wrote: Come on s4, let's go with some Pugna push lineup :D YES! SOMETHING BALLSY PLEASSSSEEE | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Fata is certainly killable if you get a silence on him from qop followed up by magic dmg from her. Probably going to result in sudokostone deny but that's something | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
And it's time to find footing in additional sets of styles | ||
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bluzi
4703 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On June 19 2016 02:25 bluzi wrote: For instance just a small idea , this game you pick a doom #4 instead of Ench , how doom does vs Slark and Timber? anyone knows? i feel abit more flexability will go a long way to help them outdraft teams. Tough call, the nerfs on doom CD are really hurting the hero and we have yet to estimate how big those nerfs are. | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On June 19 2016 02:04 wims80 wrote: Alliance could have beaten Liquid in this game everyone can beat everyone every game. not a good argument to be honest | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On June 19 2016 02:10 bluzi wrote: Why ? how did you feel Loda played bad this game ? he was actually the only guy doing his job , AB did nothing with that beast master , like nothing at all ...... because it looks like he was hesitating to defend/fight/push all game, probably cant blame him with DS and Ench in line up like that but still i am not sure about him playing TB if you know what i mean. | ||
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MintberryCrunchs
Germany462 Posts
What they would have to do is find meaningful solo pickoffs so it enables them to push tier 2 and 3 towers. Liquid wasnt fully ready to fight for maybe 5 minutes arround that time and it would have been the perfect moment to snowball their push from there. But Alliance instead relyed on their splitpush and didnt choose to go for a more pickoff/snowbally style of play and most of us saw how it ended. A very bad decision at roshan looks like the nail in the coffin in retrospective! | ||
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Zea!
9589 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Warfie
Norway2846 Posts
we lost boys | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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babysimba
10466 Posts
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Tegenaria
France379 Posts
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Thetwinmasters
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pellejohnson
United States1931 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Zenmx
Sweden163 Posts
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
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Ufnal
Poland1435 Posts
On June 19 2016 02:44 Zenmx wrote: Seems s4 badly need to practice laning against timbersaw.. Yeah, that is what I thought too. He still can do incredible things (like the dodges last game), so it's probably not just lack of form or deteriorating skill - he just seems to be completely lost laning against a timber. | ||
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Placebot
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CrazyBirdman
Germany3509 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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Zea!
9589 Posts
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Thetwinmasters
3578 Posts
On June 19 2016 02:45 Placebot wrote: Fata saved skillpoints on his Q so s4 underestimated that damage. What a player. level 1 q will kill brew at that point he only had 150 hp | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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GiveMeYourtTots
990 Posts
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Latham
9560 Posts
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Elurie
4716 Posts
On June 19 2016 02:46 LemOn wrote: what was that music :D Make it rain. | ||
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Zea!
9589 Posts
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pellejohnson
United States1931 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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Nymzee
3929 Posts
On June 19 2016 02:49 pellejohnson wrote: I hope this embarrassment of a game will be the wake up call for alliance tofinally disband or make some huge changes to the team they're too one-dimensional. they have 1 strat... | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
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bluzi
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GiveMeYourtTots
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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LemOn
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Squishy carries are just not his thing | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Chrian
United States1472 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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FFGenerations
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Scarlett`
Canada2385 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Zea!
9589 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
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Ufnal
Poland1435 Posts
On June 19 2016 02:43 pellejohnson wrote: S4 is so damn awful, remind me again how he can play on a pro team? Does this at least partially answer your query? | ||
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
rly valve | ||
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Chrian
United States1472 Posts
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CrazyBirdman
Germany3509 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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Zenmx
Sweden163 Posts
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Dysisa
Sweden2376 Posts
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Turkey4269 Posts
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babysimba
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CrazyBirdman
Germany3509 Posts
On June 19 2016 03:20 TheTenthDoc wrote: Yeah Liquid only needs 4 heroes to teamwipe Alliance, they were never in a losing position this game and were always dictating the pace Casters wanted to make it a lot closer than it was because Liquid was misplaying quite a bit but there never really was an opening for Alliance to win this. Even when Liquid messed up their fights, Alliance couldn't do anything with it. | ||
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Xurr
Germany313 Posts
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Elurie
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Daray
6006 Posts
On June 19 2016 03:22 Xurr wrote: So the casters really tried, again, to talk alliance big the whole game. I think it's fine. Them clearing that Alliance with that poor laning phase and early game had no chance to win this game no matter how badly Liquid screwed up would do no good to anyone. | ||
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wims80
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On June 19 2016 03:22 Xurr wrote: So the casters really tried, again, to talk alliance big the whole game. Well 2/3 of them did Bamboe basically said "[A] is still at a massive disadvantage even though Liquid are clowning" as politely as he could while his cocasters were trying to say the opposite | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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Ufnal
Poland1435 Posts
On June 19 2016 03:22 CrazyBirdman wrote: Casters wanted to make it a lot closer than it was because Liquid was misplaying quite a bit but there never really was an opening for Alliance to win this. Even when Liquid messed up their fights, Alliance couldn't do anything with it. Well they could do something, that is get 2-3 kills. It's only the question of whether they could have eventually translated into a game win provided [A] played perfectly. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 19 2016 03:25 TheTenthDoc wrote: Well 2/3 of them did Bamboe basically said "[A] is still at a massive disadvantage even though Liquid are clowning" as politely as he could while his cocasters were trying to say the opposite that's what you got to do as a caster though. You can't just get in there after 5 minutes and be like "well, this is just over" | ||
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kju
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Latham
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On June 19 2016 03:43 ref4 wrote: is this guy really saying DankFurt for real? I heard it too. I really really wished I misheard that. Guess we both didn't T.T | ||
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its_a_me
Austria612 Posts
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midou
Bulgaria1168 Posts
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
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Elurie
4716 Posts
Slacks should win. | ||
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Pacifist
Israel1683 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
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pellejohnson
United States1931 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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nanaoei
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😂😂😂😂 💯💯💯🔥🔥 | ||
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Latham
9560 Posts
On June 19 2016 03:53 Toadesstern wrote: LOL did you guys see the look on her face as she walked down the steps? Priceless I need an oddshot of that STAT! was it relief? embarrassment? years of therapy needed after being on the cringeshow? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 19 2016 03:56 Latham wrote: I need an oddshot of that STAT! was it relief? embarrassment? years of therapy needed after being on the cringeshow? more like "wtf just happened?" with eyes really wide open | ||
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
People like music, right? | ||
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its_a_me
Austria612 Posts
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Elurie
4716 Posts
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Latham
9560 Posts
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PsychoticSoul
53 Posts
On June 19 2016 04:06 Latham wrote: Wraith King cosplay won? Everybody got robbed that day. 'specially Naga and that hot Lina This mightve been the one time I was rooting for techies to actually win something... | ||
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its_a_me
Austria612 Posts
The cosplay "show" was a joke | ||
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Gear 3rd
1244 Posts
On June 19 2016 04:03 Elurie wrote: This is a rather thin crowd though. Are tickets expensive? Nearly everyone including me left the area to get something to eat or drink. I missed the whole cringefest | ||
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Zenmx
Sweden163 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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midou
Bulgaria1168 Posts
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Dysisa
Sweden2376 Posts
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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Korea (South)860 Posts
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Latham
9560 Posts
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
On June 19 2016 05:57 Spicy_Curry wrote: col just lost their invite after this game the least bad NA sweepstakes | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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Sweden2376 Posts
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Elurie
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
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France6190 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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Germany16350 Posts
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Ufnal
Poland1435 Posts
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lxginverse
Monaco1506 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
Diving a super nova in the fountain | ||
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Elurie
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Thetwinmasters
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3330 Posts
seeing dendi that smiley after the game was so good less goo navi tomorrow!!!!! | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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neozxa
Indonesia545 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
I hope OG vs TL is going to be great but I honestly don't see either team playing 100% serious. Might be entertaining nontheless | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
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neozxa
Indonesia545 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Or we may silently hope for some Na'Vi vs Alliance TI3 style wacky pick madness :D Either way I'd say that series is 50:50, there's no WB advantage like last time | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On June 19 2016 06:16 neozxa wrote: by the gods sonneiko is a god amongst men S0 is amazing. What a player. I think he, and Ramzes are the inheritors of CIS doto. | ||
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 19 2016 06:24 LemOn wrote: I'm pretty sure OG vs TL will be 2 super standard drafts just so that they don't reveal any counters against their nemesis likely to battle for the TI title. Or we may silently hope for some Na'Vi vs Alliance TI3 style wacky pick madness :D Either way I'd say that series is 50:50, there's no WB advantage like last time idk man, could also be really wonky stuff they're trying out for shitz and giggles. Just baiting them into thinking that this wonky strat is stupid and they don't need to think about it because they crushed it at ESL Frankfurt into super refined strat for TI that blows OG away! | ||
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Zea!
9589 Posts
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On June 19 2016 07:11 M.S.Bismarck wrote: So we're getting one CIS team in the finals. Too bad it's so easy to root for a charismatic team like Na'vi and so hard to root for Vega who 1) we've barely seen and 2) despite having respectable players like No[o]ne and Mag, also have a douche canoe in the form of fn. noone ist the nicest person around either. calling other people monkeys and fat pigs. Maybe he should look in the mirror... | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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PsychoticSoul
53 Posts
On June 19 2016 07:52 hunter_x wrote: noone ist the nicest person around either. calling other people monkeys and fat pigs. Maybe he should look in the mirror... You Forget Solo. | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
On June 19 2016 09:46 Kipsate wrote: I wonder if this secures Alliance and CoL a place in the qualifiers instead of getting invited. Quite possibly. Depends on how many invites Valve will give out how much these teams could have influenced the decision this event but assuming no more than 8 invites both these teams are sort on the fence for the last spots, and now possibly more on the qualifier side. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On June 19 2016 15:44 spudde123 wrote: Quite possibly. Depends on how many invites Valve will give out how much these teams could have influenced the decision this event but assuming no more than 8 invites both these teams are sort on the fence for the last spots, and now possibly more on the qualifier side. The subtlety is in how Valve is going to value the Year compared to the recent Months. Na'Vi has a chance to possible bounce Alliance out from a Direct invite, rather than Fnatic. But that's going to come down to the final result. But either Vega or Na'Vi really need an outright victory. | ||
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