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Nedereden
Profile Joined June 2013
777 Posts
May 14 2016 12:01 GMT
#4641
Le balanced yellow bird. Nothing to see here.
"Firefly piglet force staff chicken" - TobiWanKenobi TI3 2013
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 14 2016 12:01 GMT
#4642
On May 14 2016 21:00 Vertical wrote:
SC2 LR glory days

Nice one bro hahaha :D
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
May 14 2016 12:03 GMT
#4643
On May 14 2016 21:01 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 21:00 Vertical wrote:
SC2 LR glory days

Nice one bro hahaha :D

miss those days where I cant stream but the live commentary is very helpful
-Terran-
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 14 2016 12:03 GMT
#4644
On May 14 2016 20:59 Taf the Ghost wrote:
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On May 14 2016 20:57 LemOn wrote:
I mean they got balls
but PA vs Phoenix?


PA was a great pick. Anyone but Kaka on Phoenix and Complexity probably roll over Newbee.

It really came down to not getting the catches right. Swindlezz probably knows a huge chunk of that game is on him, but their warding was also bad all game.

Ban the Phoenix and Pick up the BM.


Phoenix banning hasn't gone well so far, but maybe. Right now teams that ban Phoenix have gone 1-5. Could be variance of course, but still.
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
May 14 2016 12:04 GMT
#4645
kaka's such an appropriate name for a phoenix player.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 14 2016 12:04 GMT
#4646
Also, kpii doing better so far.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 14 2016 12:06 GMT
#4647
On May 14 2016 21:03 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 20:59 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On May 14 2016 20:57 LemOn wrote:
I mean they got balls
but PA vs Phoenix?


PA was a great pick. Anyone but Kaka on Phoenix and Complexity probably roll over Newbee.

It really came down to not getting the catches right. Swindlezz probably knows a huge chunk of that game is on him, but their warding was also bad all game.

Ban the Phoenix and Pick up the BM.


Phoenix banning hasn't gone well so far, but maybe. Right now teams that ban Phoenix have gone 1-5. Could be variance of course, but still.


Complexity should have first pick. You have to get the jump on Phoenix, which they almost did a few times. You need the lockdown for it.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
May 14 2016 12:06 GMT
#4648
honestly, my noob drafting skills and all, i think even DP was a better idea than PA this game. PA was barely needed in the earlier engagements, but a DP would get more out of at least a handful of those later midgame fights and have a chance at dealing with the phx better.
definitely not a great pick at that phase, and it's all done and over with.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 14 2016 12:07 GMT
#4649
On May 14 2016 21:06 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 21:03 Logo wrote:
On May 14 2016 20:59 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On May 14 2016 20:57 LemOn wrote:
I mean they got balls
but PA vs Phoenix?


PA was a great pick. Anyone but Kaka on Phoenix and Complexity probably roll over Newbee.

It really came down to not getting the catches right. Swindlezz probably knows a huge chunk of that game is on him, but their warding was also bad all game.

Ban the Phoenix and Pick up the BM.


Phoenix banning hasn't gone well so far, but maybe. Right now teams that ban Phoenix have gone 1-5. Could be variance of course, but still.


Complexity should have first pick. You have to get the jump on Phoenix, which they almost did a few times. You need the lockdown for it.



I only got to read the thread, but how did earth spirit not apply control to Phoenix?
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 14 2016 12:08 GMT
#4650
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2362110197

Kaka did as much damage at Mu, and 1/2 the healing of Wisp.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
May 14 2016 12:09 GMT
#4651
On May 14 2016 21:08 Taf the Ghost wrote:
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2362110197

Kaka did as much damage at Mu, and 1/2 the healing of Wisp.

Nice info
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
May 14 2016 12:11 GMT
#4652
well that game was the phoenix show but col picking pa into it sure doesn't help lol. yea the bird's strong but any hero can shine if he's not contested at all.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
May 14 2016 12:12 GMT
#4653
col, how are you going to deal with an alchemist draft?
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 14 2016 12:12 GMT
#4654
On May 14 2016 21:08 Taf the Ghost wrote:
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2362110197

Kaka did as much damage at Mu, and 1/2 the healing of Wisp.

Yeah, it's kinda awkward when the hero basicly takes no farm to get to this point, can help different lanes and does not care to be level 4 10 minutes in because lvl 2 sunray is already amazing and anything beyond is just bonus.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 12:13:41
May 14 2016 12:13 GMT
#4655
On May 14 2016 21:12 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 21:08 Taf the Ghost wrote:
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2362110197

Kaka did as much damage at Mu, and 1/2 the healing of Wisp.

Yeah, it's kinda awkward when the hero basicly takes no farm to get to this point, can help different lanes and does not care to be level 4 10 minutes in because lvl 2 sunray is already amazing and anything beyond is just bonus.


And completely re-arrange a fight if they can get off the Egg. (Though, credit to Alliance, sprouting the Egg was brilliant.)

Oh, and I expect the hero gets the nerf bat next week.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
May 14 2016 12:16 GMT
#4656
col 1st phase:
doom
beast

newbee:
DS
axe

nb picks lion
col picks wisp + tiny
honestly, extremely predictable at this point.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 14 2016 12:18 GMT
#4657
Time to bust out coL's best strat: Limpp tiny.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
May 14 2016 12:18 GMT
#4658
does anyone have links not from twitch

not seem to be working today
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 14 2016 12:20 GMT
#4659
i mean pretty sure phoenix will get a nerf after epicenter and before manila
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 14 2016 12:20 GMT
#4660
On May 14 2016 21:12 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 21:08 Taf the Ghost wrote:
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2362110197

Kaka did as much damage at Mu, and 1/2 the healing of Wisp.

Yeah, it's kinda awkward when the hero basicly takes no farm to get to this point, can help different lanes and does not care to be level 4 10 minutes in because lvl 2 sunray is already amazing and anything beyond is just bonus.


One thing is that the hero pretty much leaves its entire contribution on the board. There's no cask or friend's grip, or enchant making a big difference in the game.

I mean we will see a sun ray nerf for sure, but don't expect that much or for Phoenix's end game stats to not be impressive.
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