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Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
May 14 2016 09:05 GMT
#4281
Everyone hates on Aui, but Sumail is primary the reason they lost that game. His greedy veil item, and him just being caught out by the most simplest of stuns just ruins him and everything falls back for EG.
Getting too old for this..
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
May 14 2016 09:06 GMT
#4282
Wtf... epicenter is getting DDOS'd or something? I thought that was a "only when NaVi is losing" thing.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
May 14 2016 09:06 GMT
#4283
On May 14 2016 18:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 18:02 lolnoty wrote:
I was saying since day1 of this roster I don't understand why you risk Aui carry when Fear just spent half a year as one of the best carries and won TI doing it. Most I can tell is PPD prefers working with Fear as a support duo instead of Aui

Did not Fear or someone mention that playing support is less physical stress? With his hand condition i'd imagine their preference may be dictated by that.


Thats a factor. The chemistry between him and PPD as opposed to Aui and PPD is probably also a factor. If the rumors were true and Fear and sumail were about to jump ship to DC then perhaps they made some sort of deal where if Aui were to come back its only if he's playing carry, who knows.

Going back to the TI5 style where AUI just sits in a lane and farms all damn game isn't going to make them win now either. They're all playing sloppy but there's gotta be a change in mindset. The old way isn't going to work.
LiquidDota Staff
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 14 2016 09:06 GMT
#4284
On May 14 2016 18:04 FreakyDroid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 18:01 Danzo wrote:
Also, EG looks lost in this meta. They want to find their own style but so far nothing is working.


They should give Fear carry + drafting role. He got them out of the slump a year ago, Im pretty confident he can do it again.


No please. He is terrible at drafting.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
May 14 2016 09:07 GMT
#4285
I don't even know if I want to watch game 2. If EG is getting shit stomped by fucking Complexity I'm done. gg
Getting too old for this..
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 14 2016 09:07 GMT
#4286
On May 14 2016 18:07 Danzo wrote:
I don't even know if I want to watch game 2. If EG is getting shit stomped by fucking Complexity I'm done. gg

that was a draft/tactical loss, EG is fully capable of beating CoL

Calm.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
May 14 2016 09:08 GMT
#4287
On May 14 2016 18:05 Danzo wrote:
Everyone hates on Aui, but Sumail is primary the reason they lost that game. His greedy veil item, and him just being caught out by the most simplest of stuns just ruins him and everything falls back for EG.


Veil is 100% necessary for EG in that game. They're entirely magic damage and magic damage is the only way they were ever going to kill anyone on complexity. Which is why a pipe destroyed them.
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HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
May 14 2016 09:11 GMT
#4288
Fear seems unlikely to ever play carry again, which is a very sad thing for me to say. The stress on his arm was a large part of the swap in the first place, after all. That said, Aui has not looked convincing on carry and time is certainly running out to perform.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 09:12:06
May 14 2016 09:11 GMT
#4289
On May 14 2016 18:04 Shaella wrote:
i like how everyone is like trying to find some synergy problem between Aui and PPD but i'm sure its more health related for Fear.

if you're refering to my comment: forget synergy, Fear is just a better player support or carry. I'm saying PPD likes having a reliable 4 that's a better player.

I'm not an anti-fan or anything, but Fear is just better at Aui than any role. If it's health then okay, I just don't think Aui will evolve suddenly into a top tier carry.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 14 2016 09:12 GMT
#4290
BM vs the firebird...
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
May 14 2016 09:12 GMT
#4291
aui is fine as a carry its just his hero pool is like 3 years out of date
High Risk Low Reward
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 14 2016 09:12 GMT
#4292
Alright EG picked Phoenix we won boys.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
May 14 2016 09:13 GMT
#4293
On May 14 2016 18:11 HaXxorIzed wrote:
Fear seems unlikely to ever play carry again, which is a very sad thing for me to say. The stress on his arm was a large part of the swap in the first place, after all. That said, Aui has not looked convincing on carry and time is certainly running out to perform.


The swap in the first place was they got Arteezy back. You're not going to have Artour play support. The arm was secondary to that.
LiquidDota Staff
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 14 2016 09:14 GMT
#4294
Arteezy as carry is bad anyways.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
May 14 2016 09:15 GMT
#4295
On May 14 2016 18:07 Danzo wrote:
I don't even know if I want to watch game 2. If EG is getting shit stomped by fucking Complexity I'm done. gg

Do not be done Danzo, it happens to every team. You have to embrace it.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 09:16:53
May 14 2016 09:15 GMT
#4296
On May 14 2016 18:12 Spicy_Curry wrote:
aui is fine as a carry its just his hero pool is like 3 years out of date


His everything is 3 years out of date. He's a nice guy but the scene has moved fucking lightyears. His carry is way behind the current curve on every level.

Alright we got Abaddon, NA dota in the house! Too bad its against another team from NA.
LiquidDota Staff
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 09:18:50
May 14 2016 09:17 GMT
#4297
On May 14 2016 18:13 OuchyDathurts wrote:

The swap in the first place was they got Arteezy back. You're not going to have Artour play support. The arm was secondary to that.


True, but given Arteezy left, they have stayed with the arrangement and Fear has gone on record as saying he believes Aui is a better carry, the arm is probably still a major issue. The alternatives being that Fear's carry game has taken a major step down from TI5 for other, unexplained reasons, or he/the team has no interest in the role being played by Fear anymore.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 09:18:09
May 14 2016 09:17 GMT
#4298
Aui said in an interview with that DotP podcast that he specifically wanted to play carry, and as far as I recall even said that he wasn't going to join otherwise. Also from what I recall from Bulba's interview on Dailydot he was strongly in favor of Aui being the carry.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
May 14 2016 09:17 GMT
#4299
On May 14 2016 18:15 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 18:12 Spicy_Curry wrote:
aui is fine as a carry its just his hero pool is like 3 years out of date


His everything is 3 years out of date. He's a nice guy but the scene has moved fucking lightyears. His carry is way behind the current curve on every level.

Alright we got Abaddon, NA dota in the house! Too bad its against another team from NA.

That is why Icefrog introduced Experience Tomes, so RTZ can catch up.
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
May 14 2016 09:17 GMT
#4300
EG's picks seem much better this time.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
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