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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 13 2016 19:04 GMT
#3461
On May 14 2016 04:02 Mouzone wrote:
I think Alch is in a pretty weird spot. It doesn't feel like the hero in itself is weak enough to warrant its "value advantage" at the moment.

I always felt like an Alch pickup was a game of tempo rather than late-game advantage: you have stupid amounts of gold at early enough in the game, that you can probably roll them over. But the longer and longer you drag out the game, the weaker and weaker he gets in relation to other carries (I think).

Except for the gifted Agh's. Is his ult basically his way of catching up to other carries in the lategame (when the carries have similar itemization), or is it what gives him an over-the-top advantage over them?
kiss kiss fall in love
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 13 2016 19:05 GMT
#3462
On May 14 2016 04:04 Ufnal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 03:58 GumBa wrote:
I'm not even mad (lil heartbroken from loda at end after such a good game) but the boys showed fucking heart and good play and made a fucking sick game. Proving they aint so shit fucking hell.


See, compared to the bitterness from not-too-long-ago, this is a wonderful spirit that you are showing! *highfive*

Partially related: I really do wonder whether Loda overextended because enthusiasm or there was a miscommunication and he was sure the rest of the team are right behind him...

I was semi joking back then trying to counter curse but yeah alliance actually playing some fucking dota is making my blood pump.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 13 2016 19:05 GMT
#3463
On May 14 2016 04:00 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I never really felt the impact of S4 or Bulldog after the early game

But I'm really bad, so


He did tons of dmg (S4) in the fights , those slights were gettting them low and Slark cleaned up , I LOVED THE PICK , they never run it and it went really well , Newbee really made a great last pick , but i love the draft and the gameplay until Loda suffered a stroke mid game and died at the ancients
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 13 2016 19:06 GMT
#3464
On May 14 2016 04:05 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 04:00 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I never really felt the impact of S4 or Bulldog after the early game

But I'm really bad, so


He did tons of dmg (S4) in the fights , those slights were gettting them low and Slark cleaned up , I LOVED THE PICK , they never run it and it went really well , Newbee really made a great last pick , but i love the draft and the gameplay until Loda suffered a stroke mid game and died at the ancients

S4 played a decent enough ember and just the fact that THEY PICKED IT feels amazing.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-13 19:07:31
May 13 2016 19:07 GMT
#3465
On May 14 2016 04:02 Mouzone wrote:
I think Alch is in a pretty weird spot. It doesn't feel like the hero in itself is weak enough to warrant its "value advantage" at the moment.


A year back, before every carry in the game became shit, it was necessary. Now, he's not bad even with the carry build I think.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
May 13 2016 19:08 GMT
#3466
Man is there a better feeling than watching r[A]t dota lose?
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 13 2016 19:08 GMT
#3467
On May 14 2016 04:06 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 04:05 bluzi wrote:
On May 14 2016 04:00 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I never really felt the impact of S4 or Bulldog after the early game

But I'm really bad, so


He did tons of dmg (S4) in the fights , those slights were gettting them low and Slark cleaned up , I LOVED THE PICK , they never run it and it went really well , Newbee really made a great last pick , but i love the draft and the gameplay until Loda suffered a stroke mid game and died at the ancients

S4 played a decent enough ember and just the fact that THEY PICKED IT feels amazing.


No doubt , i really believe they had this game , the panel is talking about like the newbee had it at lockdown , but the reality is that without that Slark pickoff they were shaking their boots , they were losing fights and couldnt get close to killing the Slark , well played by newbee to mount the pressure once they did get that key pickoff
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-13 19:08:30
May 13 2016 19:08 GMT
#3468
honest question, why the hell didn't the tournament organizers get any real analysts? it feels like 5 and a half caster squad with no real analysis.
#1 Grubby Fan.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 13 2016 19:09 GMT
#3469
On May 14 2016 04:08 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Man is there a better feeling than watching r[A]t dota lose?


Of course , watching them win :D
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 13 2016 19:09 GMT
#3470
On May 14 2016 04:08 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 04:06 GumBa wrote:
On May 14 2016 04:05 bluzi wrote:
On May 14 2016 04:00 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I never really felt the impact of S4 or Bulldog after the early game

But I'm really bad, so


He did tons of dmg (S4) in the fights , those slights were gettting them low and Slark cleaned up , I LOVED THE PICK , they never run it and it went really well , Newbee really made a great last pick , but i love the draft and the gameplay until Loda suffered a stroke mid game and died at the ancients

S4 played a decent enough ember and just the fact that THEY PICKED IT feels amazing.


No doubt , i really believe they had this game , the panel is talking about like the newbee had it at lockdown , but the reality is that without that Slark pickoff they were shaking their boots , they were losing fights and couldnt get close to killing the Slark , well played by newbee to mount the pressure once they did get that key pickoff

If only Lodas snapback handt tightened and stopped the blood flow
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 13 2016 19:10 GMT
#3471
Wisp Newbee. Tank strat?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
May 13 2016 19:10 GMT
#3472
On May 14 2016 04:08 Derrida wrote:
honest question, why the hell didn't the tournament organizers get any real analysts? it feels like 5 and a half caster squad with no real analysis.


because synderen in no diggity
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 13 2016 19:11 GMT
#3473
Newbee is the best CN team with the wisp and lion , kinda scary
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
May 13 2016 19:11 GMT
#3474
Hope [A] takes next two.
LiangHao
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 13 2016 19:12 GMT
#3475
On May 14 2016 04:10 malcram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 04:08 Derrida wrote:
honest question, why the hell didn't the tournament organizers get any real analysts? it feels like 5 and a half caster squad with no real analysis.


because synderen in no diggity

Shoulda gotten no diggity on the panel.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
May 13 2016 19:12 GMT
#3476
ODPixel... i can't stand him, wanted blitz+cap :/
The Real Power~
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 13 2016 19:13 GMT
#3477
This game is going to be hard , they are gonna go tank , and we are going to cry we have 0 dmg and puck does nothing
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
May 13 2016 19:14 GMT
#3478
I never thought I'd be happy to see a Viper.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 13 2016 19:14 GMT
#3479
On May 14 2016 04:13 bluzi wrote:
This game is going to be hard , they are gonna go tank , and we are going to cry we have 0 dmg and puck does nothing

Well, puck + phoenix is quite alot of damage, maybe if A picks AA it will be enough.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
May 13 2016 19:14 GMT
#3480
On May 14 2016 04:08 Derrida wrote:
honest question, why the hell didn't the tournament organizers get any real analysts? it feels like 5 and a half caster squad with no real analysis.


I think Cap and Godz are good enough analysts.
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