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On May 13 2016 18:37 Racket wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 18:28 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 13 2016 18:22 Racket wrote:On May 13 2016 18:17 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 13 2016 18:14 Racket wrote:On May 13 2016 18:14 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 13 2016 18:12 Racket wrote:On May 13 2016 18:07 lolnoty wrote:On May 13 2016 18:06 Racket wrote:On May 13 2016 18:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
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If we are really honest, Universe was slumping since early 2016 even in EG.
Secret transition amplified that.
Damn, where is that 8k Universe of TI5 that was taking over the pub games from solo offlane. Just to note something, Universe is slumping since he paired with RTZ. universe was slumping as EG became a t1 team as sadboys? Don't be like that, you know what I mean. After TI5 RTZ joined and he fell off a cliff. Not really. He had a strong showing just prior to leaving EG. Then people just stop calling slump a two weeks performance. All players and teams slump. Universe was always one of the best in EG. His strong performance was just reflected in the fact that PPD finally realized they should play off him. Once he did that, he could carry RTZ, Sumail and PPDs drafting. And how is that connected to "RTZ joining and Universe starting to play bad on EG" and to "Universe is slumping" (even tho by your statement he played fairly well before leaving EG, meaning he is in a slump for like... 10 games?)? Dude, if you wanna say something say it loud and clear. I am just joking about how people always pick on a teammate of RTZ but never on him. I am pretty sure you were the one that said Universe slumped as soon as RTZ paired/joined/rejoined. I don't see that as hinting the slump is 10 games, but for the time they were paired. The problems is not RTZ, nor Sumail, or Universe, individiually, but all three could not work in unison, if you tried to play to their strenghts. At least one had to suffer for it. It is too much greed, which is even worse in Secret. Once PDD stopped trying to make RTZ/Sumail work, and focused on Universe, it all worked for the better. You are not connected to the threads in this forum. People is saying Universe is slumping since after TI5, and I am saying "oh lady luck, just when RTZ joined EG started playing worse and Universe is the one to blame, what a coincidence", same thing happened with s4 in Secret. I never said nor say RTZ is bad or anything, I think he does not fit the last three teams he joined, that resulting in those teams under-performing. But none of it is true, which my argument portrays. Outside the standard, we have a period after a big performance where we peaked in performance, and restocking motivation, as well as integrating a "new" player.
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On May 13 2016 18:44 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 18:43 babysimba wrote:
Pretty sure the biggest criticism against w33 is his inability to play tempo mids except earth spirit. RTZ over w33 was a clear upgrade in terms of versatility and more reliable for the team across major patch changes.
The problem is bringing in another offlaner which the team needs time to adjust for. Secret will be fine in time for Manilla, if not TI6. As though rtz plays tempo mids well.
I dunno about nowadays, but isn't at least Puck one of the heroes he originally established himself by playing really well?
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Idk this still feels like a game where Secret can just get wiped. It's really scary to go for rosh or pushes against all that teamfight Alliance has
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zz blitz needs to step up his 6.87 knowledge.
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On May 13 2016 18:46 spudde123 wrote:
Idk this still feels like a game where Secret can just get wiped. It's really scary to go for rosh or pushes against all that teamfight Alliance has
ya, and slardar is not a good catch-up farmer, so secret has an incentive to just keep farming
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Put the gem in the base S4 .. plz... before the fight
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As Ayesee would say, s4 got caught with his hand in the cookie jar
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s4 nervous-breakdown-at-losing-game risky plays > Secret throws
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S4 ,,,, TOLD YOU TO PUT THE GODDAMN GEM WHEN YOU GO FOR THOSE YOLO STUFF .... man im 3k scrub and i can put that gem away after clearing up the warding
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How come S4 didn't move after he saw Universe starting to rocket that area
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On May 13 2016 18:50 Kipsate wrote:
How come S4 didn't move after he saw Universe starting to rocket that area
S4 things
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On May 13 2016 18:46 Dysisa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 18:44 DucK- wrote:On May 13 2016 18:43 babysimba wrote:
Pretty sure the biggest criticism against w33 is his inability to play tempo mids except earth spirit. RTZ over w33 was a clear upgrade in terms of versatility and more reliable for the team across major patch changes.
The problem is bringing in another offlaner which the team needs time to adjust for. Secret will be fine in time for Manilla, if not TI6. As though rtz plays tempo mids well. I dunno about nowadays, but isn't at least Puck one of the heroes he originally established himself by playing really well?
Yep. He was known for it before his style refined into carry mid.
I'm not saying rtz is bad or can't play tempo anymore. But to call him better than w33 at this aspect in current times is ridiculous. He is unproven with this style.
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On May 13 2016 18:50 Kipsate wrote:
How come S4 didn't move after he saw Universe starting to rocket that area
He thought when he couldn't see others, they can't see him too
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On May 13 2016 18:50 Kipsate wrote:
How come S4 didn't move after he saw Universe starting to rocket that area
I don't think he saw it? I think the rocket just barely caught s4 on the edge
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On May 13 2016 18:51 babysimba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 18:50 Kipsate wrote:
How come S4 didn't move after he saw Universe starting to rocket that area He thought when he couldn't see others, they can't see him too
that's why you should always carry a towel
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EPT
