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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 13 2016 09:58 GMT
#2201
The giant has awoken and secret have arrived. Looking like favourites for the tournament now.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
May 13 2016 09:58 GMT
#2202
First map at least looked close ... this was a stomp!
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
May 13 2016 09:58 GMT
#2203
On May 13 2016 18:57 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 18:57 StarVe wrote:
meh, I'm not too convinced

Yeah, did Puppey do anything this game?


Puppey has been the weak link for some time
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
May 13 2016 09:59 GMT
#2204
This is a toss-up. Think and hope [A] get back in 3rd.
LiangHao
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
May 13 2016 09:59 GMT
#2205
On May 13 2016 18:45 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 18:37 Racket wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:28 Dracolich70 wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:22 Racket wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:17 Dracolich70 wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:14 Racket wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:14 Dracolich70 wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:12 Racket wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:07 lolnoty wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:06 Racket wrote:
[quote]
Just to note something, Universe is slumping since he paired with RTZ.

universe was slumping as EG became a t1 team as sadboys?

Don't be like that, you know what I mean. After TI5 RTZ joined and he fell off a cliff.
Not really. He had a strong showing just prior to leaving EG.

Then people just stop calling slump a two weeks performance.
All players and teams slump. Universe was always one of the best in EG. His strong performance was just reflected in the fact that PPD finally realized they should play off him. Once he did that, he could carry RTZ, Sumail and PPDs drafting.

And how is that connected to "RTZ joining and Universe starting to play bad on EG" and to "Universe is slumping" (even tho by your statement he played fairly well before leaving EG, meaning he is in a slump for like... 10 games?)?

Dude, if you wanna say something say it loud and clear.

I am just joking about how people always pick on a teammate of RTZ but never on him.
I am pretty sure you were the one that said Universe slumped as soon as RTZ paired/joined/rejoined. I don't see that as hinting the slump is 10 games, but for the time they were paired.

The problems is not RTZ, nor Sumail, or Universe, individiually, but all three could not work in unison, if you tried to play to their strenghts. At least one had to suffer for it. It is too much greed, which is even worse in Secret. Once PDD stopped trying to make RTZ/Sumail work, and focused on Universe, it all worked for the better.

You are not connected to the threads in this forum. People is saying Universe is slumping since after TI5, and I am saying "oh lady luck, just when RTZ joined EG started playing worse and Universe is the one to blame, what a coincidence", same thing happened with s4 in Secret.
I never said nor say RTZ is bad or anything, I think he does not fit the last three teams he joined, that resulting in those teams under-performing.
But none of it is true, which my argument portrays. Outside the standard, we have a period after a big performance where we peaked in performance, and restocking motivation, as well as integrating a "new" player.

I don't know, till now I only saw RTZ's teams do well, extremely well but crash and burn in the end, usually due to lack of team cohesion or playstyles not matching/merging/adapting/fitting.
I don't think one player is holding a team back but the team itself can deal with changes or needs.

Look at OG, two weeks ago they were, in the eyes of many fans and not fans, trash and n0tail was the weakest link and so on, Miracle was never the problem even tho he was the star that carried shit and a patch after he couldn't carry shit. Now two patches after they are back "in form" and all thanks to Miracle (I am pretty sure many think that way).

If you keep track of time, patches, players and fans, you will only see people blaming anyone but their loved players and when there is no other escape they will justify their loved ones under-performing due to patches.

I find that funny and I like repeating it forever or as long as fans keep arguing about it.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 13 2016 09:59 GMT
#2206
Puppey was involved in a bunch of kills early on wasn't he? Though I can't really recall if he was even necessary to those kills or if the Lion+Invoker was enough
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
May 13 2016 09:59 GMT
#2207
Has Drow strat been undefeated in this tournament? It seems so damn good in this patch.
Getting too old for this..
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
May 13 2016 09:59 GMT
#2208
On May 13 2016 18:59 Dracolich70 wrote:
This is a toss-up. Think and hope [A] get back in 3rd.


confirmed secret winning game 3
secret - never again
turpentine
Profile Joined November 2015
1624 Posts
May 13 2016 10:00 GMT
#2209
GG

confidence boost

On May 13 2016 18:55 Shaella wrote:
RTZ and Universe finally look like the big time pickups they were said to be.


BULBA WHO?

(bulbul is playing well too tbh)
Book of Funn1k, 3:22 "YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 0-7 TUSK?? I would so fuckin Walrus Punch you that you will get stunned for 1 year."
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
May 13 2016 10:00 GMT
#2210
On May 13 2016 18:58 Alpino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 18:57 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:57 StarVe wrote:
meh, I'm not too convinced

Yeah, did Puppey do anything this game?


Puppey has been the weak link for some time
PPY is like Fear in EG, he could mechanically play each of those roles better than those he has in the positions.
LiangHao
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-13 10:01:07
May 13 2016 10:00 GMT
#2211
Why do they show Kills AND Deaths for the team in the stats, seems redundant haha
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
May 13 2016 10:00 GMT
#2212
On May 13 2016 18:59 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 18:45 Dracolich70 wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:37 Racket wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:28 Dracolich70 wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:22 Racket wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:17 Dracolich70 wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:14 Racket wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:14 Dracolich70 wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:12 Racket wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:07 lolnoty wrote:
[quote]
universe was slumping as EG became a t1 team as sadboys?

Don't be like that, you know what I mean. After TI5 RTZ joined and he fell off a cliff.
Not really. He had a strong showing just prior to leaving EG.

Then people just stop calling slump a two weeks performance.
All players and teams slump. Universe was always one of the best in EG. His strong performance was just reflected in the fact that PPD finally realized they should play off him. Once he did that, he could carry RTZ, Sumail and PPDs drafting.

And how is that connected to "RTZ joining and Universe starting to play bad on EG" and to "Universe is slumping" (even tho by your statement he played fairly well before leaving EG, meaning he is in a slump for like... 10 games?)?

Dude, if you wanna say something say it loud and clear.

I am just joking about how people always pick on a teammate of RTZ but never on him.
I am pretty sure you were the one that said Universe slumped as soon as RTZ paired/joined/rejoined. I don't see that as hinting the slump is 10 games, but for the time they were paired.

The problems is not RTZ, nor Sumail, or Universe, individiually, but all three could not work in unison, if you tried to play to their strenghts. At least one had to suffer for it. It is too much greed, which is even worse in Secret. Once PDD stopped trying to make RTZ/Sumail work, and focused on Universe, it all worked for the better.

You are not connected to the threads in this forum. People is saying Universe is slumping since after TI5, and I am saying "oh lady luck, just when RTZ joined EG started playing worse and Universe is the one to blame, what a coincidence", same thing happened with s4 in Secret.
I never said nor say RTZ is bad or anything, I think he does not fit the last three teams he joined, that resulting in those teams under-performing.
But none of it is true, which my argument portrays. Outside the standard, we have a period after a big performance where we peaked in performance, and restocking motivation, as well as integrating a "new" player.

I don't know, till now I only saw RTZ's teams do well, extremely well but crash and burn in the end, usually due to lack of team cohesion or playstyles not matching/merging/adapting/fitting.
I don't think one player is holding a team back but the team itself can deal with changes or needs.

Look at OG, two weeks ago they were, in the eyes of many fans and not fans, trash and n0tail was the weakest link and so on, Miracle was never the problem even tho he was the star that carried shit and a patch after he couldn't carry shit. Now two patches after they are back "in form" and all thanks to Miracle (I am pretty sure many think that way).

If you keep track of time, patches, players and fans, you will only see people blaming anyone but their loved players and when there is no other escape they will justify their loved ones under-performing due to patches.

I find that funny and I like repeating it forever or as long as fans keep arguing about it.


Trying to use logic with Dracolich is akin to bashing your head against a brick wall.
secret - never again
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 13 2016 10:00 GMT
#2213
On May 13 2016 18:59 Dracolich70 wrote:
This is a toss-up. Think and hope [A] get back in 3rd.


They need to give themselves a chance in the draft , not sure how they think to win this game to be honset , they push way too slow , so they can get splitpushed to death , they had no dmg in team fights , and their cores have 0 synergy (if nothing even negative) with their Void , they drafted 3 initiators and 0 dmg. Also S4 losing gems and giving up tons of kills didnt help.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 13 2016 10:01 GMT
#2214
On May 13 2016 19:00 turpentine wrote:
GG

confidence boost

Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 18:55 Shaella wrote:
RTZ and Universe finally look like the big time pickups they were said to be.


BULBA WHO?

(bulbul is playing well too tbh)

Honestly this is the first game where i've gotten to see RTZ and universe pop off its good to see, i actually like both players a lot.

Bulbul has been playing sick on EG the real ? mark there is Aui he needs to show up, he was a good carry in the long long ago, hopefully he can find that form once more
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
May 13 2016 10:01 GMT
#2215
On May 13 2016 19:00 turpentine wrote:
GG

confidence boost

Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 18:55 Shaella wrote:
RTZ and Universe finally look like the big time pickups they were said to be.


BULBA WHO?

(bulbul is playing well too tbh)


He's playing better than Universe.
Getting too old for this..
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 13 2016 10:01 GMT
#2216
Secret's drafting is still in a mess. They don't have the type of hero synergy like in the past. They are just drafting like Newbee and hoping to out execute others, which always results in a throw
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 13 2016 10:01 GMT
#2217
On May 13 2016 19:00 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 18:58 Alpino wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:57 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 13 2016 18:57 StarVe wrote:
meh, I'm not too convinced

Yeah, did Puppey do anything this game?


Puppey has been the weak link for some time
PPY is like Fear in EG, he could mechanically play each of those roles better than those he has in the positions.

yeah i'm sure in their next iteration Secret will go full VP and Puppey will be taking the offlane himself.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
May 13 2016 10:02 GMT
#2218
On May 13 2016 19:01 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 19:00 turpentine wrote:
GG

confidence boost

On May 13 2016 18:55 Shaella wrote:
RTZ and Universe finally look like the big time pickups they were said to be.


BULBA WHO?

(bulbul is playing well too tbh)

Honestly this is the first game where i've gotten to see RTZ and universe pop off its good to see, i actually like both players a lot.

Bulbul has been playing sick on EG the real ? mark there is Aui he needs to show up, he was a good carry in the long long ago, hopefully he can find that form once more


His void game yesterday was insane. Too bad they still lost tho. Damn AUI and his silly blink into chorno for dual.
Getting too old for this..
turpentine
Profile Joined November 2015
1624 Posts
May 13 2016 10:02 GMT
#2219
On May 13 2016 19:01 Danzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 19:00 turpentine wrote:
GG

confidence boost

On May 13 2016 18:55 Shaella wrote:
RTZ and Universe finally look like the big time pickups they were said to be.


BULBA WHO?

(bulbul is playing well too tbh)


He's playing better than Universe.


are you firing shots

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but it's true

Book of Funn1k, 3:22 "YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 0-7 TUSK?? I would so fuckin Walrus Punch you that you will get stunned for 1 year."
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
May 13 2016 10:02 GMT
#2220
On May 13 2016 19:01 babysimba wrote:
Secret's drafting is still in a mess. They don't have the type of hero synergy like in the past. They are just drafting like Newbee and hoping to out execute others, which always results in a throw


Not to mention Drow strats are so OP right now.
Getting too old for this..
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