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Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
May 10 2016 18:18 GMT
#1861
On May 11 2016 03:17 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 03:15 Papercappu wrote:
On May 11 2016 03:13 TheYango wrote:
On May 11 2016 03:10 Azarkon wrote:
But respect is due where it's due. Newbee having win the two best teams in the West, when I feel they pick were against them in two out of four games, is pretty ridiculous.

TBF I think calling the current Secret one of the "two best teams in the West" is purely on paper based on the team's star power and does not reflect their mediocre performance against other Western teams at the moment.

Secret's series against newbee was closer than this EG series. i dont understand how people can say current secret is bad.most of their problems are just draft issues

Oh, come on.

It's all about head to head results. Sumail and Bulba made mistakes, but they aren't even comparable to the sloppiness of RTZ and Universe provided.


It's a team game, how is that relevant to if one team is worse than another?
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 10 2016 18:18 GMT
#1862
was impress me the most is VP

split the good/great team they had in 2 only to create 2 awfully bad teams
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Nedereden
Profile Joined June 2013
777 Posts
May 10 2016 18:18 GMT
#1863
Never thought Id see the day when Azarkons posts are the most reasonable on the thread ... by a mile!
"Firefly piglet force staff chicken" - TobiWanKenobi TI3 2013
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 10 2016 18:19 GMT
#1864
Eventually there would have been a bkb but there were other priorities first
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 10 2016 18:19 GMT
#1865
On May 11 2016 03:18 Nedereden wrote:
Never thought Id see the day when Azarkons posts are the most reasonable on the thread ... by a mile!

Azarkon smurf account confirmed
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 10 2016 18:19 GMT
#1866
On May 11 2016 03:18 ref4 wrote:
why did sumail give aghs to beastmaster and not to disruptor -- disruptor aghs is 1 of the best aghs upgrade in the game plus they don't need the extra range on primal roar cuz glimpse + aether lense is already like 50 screens long anyway


Because PPD told him to, I'm sure, which is why I think PPD's decisions that game weren't the best. They'll learn, I still feel they had the advantage in the pick against Newbee. They just didn't play well enough.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 10 2016 18:19 GMT
#1867
On May 11 2016 03:18 Nedereden wrote:
Never thought Id see the day when Azarkons posts are the most reasonable on the thread ... by a mile!

10/10 bait
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 10 2016 18:19 GMT
#1868
Pretty sure we will have a better idea of who the best western teams are in a few days. The confidence people have in evaluating teams is silly when teams haven't even played much recently and it has been proven time and time again that teams can improve as the tournament progresses.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 18:20:43
May 10 2016 18:19 GMT
#1869
On May 11 2016 03:18 Procake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 03:17 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On May 11 2016 03:15 Papercappu wrote:
On May 11 2016 03:13 TheYango wrote:
On May 11 2016 03:10 Azarkon wrote:
But respect is due where it's due. Newbee having win the two best teams in the West, when I feel they pick were against them in two out of four games, is pretty ridiculous.

TBF I think calling the current Secret one of the "two best teams in the West" is purely on paper based on the team's star power and does not reflect their mediocre performance against other Western teams at the moment.

Secret's series against newbee was closer than this EG series. i dont understand how people can say current secret is bad.most of their problems are just draft issues

Oh, come on.

It's all about head to head results. Sumail and Bulba made mistakes, but they aren't even comparable to the sloppiness of RTZ and Universe provided.


It's a team game, how is that relevant to if one team is worse than another?

Secret lost won game. It speaks volumes in Dota.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4554 Posts
May 10 2016 18:20 GMT
#1870
On May 11 2016 03:14 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 03:10 LennX wrote:


so newbee is 3china, 1 msian and 1 aussie.

oi oi! tralia leading the charge

Boo hoo
Crying over ethnicity now
How bout eg
2 American 1 indian 1 pakistani 1 Chinese



Not enough aussie in that team.

I'm attempting to feed the troll btw if you didn't get my sarcasm of how newbee is not a "true" China team
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 18:24:39
May 10 2016 18:22 GMT
#1871
I still think VG is a much fiercer opponent than Newbee. I mean, ppd's last ban game 2 clearly shows he didn't research Newbee at all. Without a Naga, his draft should've reigned supreme, honestly.

Summit 5 Chinese quals should be fucking good.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
May 10 2016 18:22 GMT
#1872
On May 11 2016 03:19 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 03:18 Procake wrote:
On May 11 2016 03:17 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On May 11 2016 03:15 Papercappu wrote:
On May 11 2016 03:13 TheYango wrote:
On May 11 2016 03:10 Azarkon wrote:
But respect is due where it's due. Newbee having win the two best teams in the West, when I feel they pick were against them in two out of four games, is pretty ridiculous.

TBF I think calling the current Secret one of the "two best teams in the West" is purely on paper based on the team's star power and does not reflect their mediocre performance against other Western teams at the moment.

Secret's series against newbee was closer than this EG series. i dont understand how people can say current secret is bad.most of their problems are just draft issues

Oh, come on.

It's all about head to head results. Sumail and Bulba made mistakes, but they aren't even comparable to the sloppiness of RTZ and Universe provided.


It's a team game, how is that relevant to if one team is worse than another?

Secret lost won game. It speaks volumes in Dota.


You're saying EG did better despite both games being worse than Secret's.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
May 10 2016 18:22 GMT
#1873
On May 11 2016 03:17 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 03:15 Papercappu wrote:
On May 11 2016 03:13 TheYango wrote:
On May 11 2016 03:10 Azarkon wrote:
But respect is due where it's due. Newbee having win the two best teams in the West, when I feel they pick were against them in two out of four games, is pretty ridiculous.

TBF I think calling the current Secret one of the "two best teams in the West" is purely on paper based on the team's star power and does not reflect their mediocre performance against other Western teams at the moment.

Secret's series against newbee was closer than this EG series. i dont understand how people can say current secret is bad.most of their problems are just draft issues

Oh, come on.

It's all about head to head results. Sumail and Bulba made mistakes, but they aren't even comparable to the sloppiness of RTZ and Universe provided.

thats not how dota works. if you think dota are all about the plays you are delusional.you can't do much without comfortable draft + strats.especially on recent patch
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 10 2016 18:23 GMT
#1874
Let's not go crazy with azarkon baiting. When CN teams really really put the beat down on western teams, he does come off as reasonable. But after Western teams beat CN teams, that's a different matter.
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
May 10 2016 18:24 GMT
#1875
meh newbee rekted but honestly though they are just on form right now

all it takes is for some one to get sick or some rpging and the draft problems will come back and bite them in the ass.
Rillanon.au
Nedereden
Profile Joined June 2013
777 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 18:28:00
May 10 2016 18:24 GMT
#1876
On May 11 2016 03:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 03:18 Nedereden wrote:
Never thought Id see the day when Azarkons posts are the most reasonable on the thread ... by a mile!

10/10 bait

Is it? Is it really?

Edit : Also I think at this point Newbee>Rest of China=West confirmed. I dunno where drafter Kaka has been for so long... but these drafts are like genius level!
"Firefly piglet force staff chicken" - TobiWanKenobi TI3 2013
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 10 2016 18:25 GMT
#1877
On May 11 2016 03:24 haduken wrote:
meh newbee rekted but honestly though they are just on form right now

all it takes is for some one to get sick or some rpging and the draft problems will come back and bite them in the ass.

You could end up like Secret and be the June champions.
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 10 2016 18:26 GMT
#1878
I would've liked to see that game go to maxed radiant alch with 4 fed aghs vs 6-slotted triple dire core.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 10 2016 18:26 GMT
#1879
On May 11 2016 03:24 haduken wrote:
meh newbee rekted but honestly though they are just on form right now

all it takes is for some one to get sick or some rpging and the draft problems will come back and bite them in the ass.

29 0, "just on form"
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 10 2016 18:26 GMT
#1880
On May 11 2016 03:24 Nedereden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 03:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 11 2016 03:18 Nedereden wrote:
Never thought Id see the day when Azarkons posts are the most reasonable on the thread ... by a mile!

10/10 bait

Is it? Is it really?


Well, he did call Secret one of the two best Western teams.

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