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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 11 2016 17:26 GMT
#3661
Crimson is a nice pickup from Fear.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 17:27:05
May 11 2016 17:26 GMT
#3662
On May 12 2016 02:25 IntoTheheart wrote:
Are they at least CISing properly?

They need to take at least a lane of rax before starting to go full CIS.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
May 11 2016 17:27 GMT
#3663
Datdota says Fng has never played Puck before in a competitive match
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 11 2016 17:28 GMT
#3664
Tick tock, drow strat clock is ticking
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Gear 3rd
Profile Joined July 2011
1244 Posts
May 11 2016 17:30 GMT
#3665
Well you know. Nobody gave VP a real chance to win this at the beginning. But imo they at leaast seem to give them a run for their money. IDK vp doesnt look as bad as people make them out to be.
EXTERMINATE!
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 11 2016 17:32 GMT
#3666
dam that puck aghs won them the fight I don't think aui knew they had it
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 17:33:56
May 11 2016 17:33 GMT
#3667
I don't really understand why the sentiment that Drow strats are always on a clock seems to be so popular. VP's damage output and pickoff potential is incredible in all stages of the game. If the Drow was the carry they would be on a massive clock, but they have WR and Lion+Venge as their supports. This is an extremely hard game for Sumail to play. And now that WR and Drow have BKBs it's way harder for EG to turn fights around, though of course still possible.
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
May 11 2016 17:33 GMT
#3668
The only big threat to VP heroes is dseer.There is no bloody clock
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 11 2016 17:33 GMT
#3669
On May 12 2016 02:30 Gear 3rd wrote:
Well you know. Nobody gave VP a real chance to win this at the beginning. But imo they at leaast seem to give them a run for their money. IDK vp doesnt look as bad as people make them out to be.

Yeah it is strange, they look a bit unorganized, but they are not bad.

Some of their decisions are really questionable though(like going 4 onto Bane behind Tier 1 tower when they know that both Slardar and Elder Titan are there).
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 11 2016 17:33 GMT
#3670
On May 12 2016 02:33 spudde123 wrote:
I don't really understand why the sentiment that Drow strats are always on a clock seems to be so popular. VP's damage output and pickoff potential is incredible in all stages of the game. If the Drow was the carry they would be on a massive clock, but they have WR and Lion+Venge as their supports. This is an extremely hard game for Sumail to play.

After certain point people can get to drow and smack her.

And Suma1l made it harder for himself.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
May 11 2016 17:34 GMT
#3671
On May 12 2016 02:33 spudde123 wrote:
I don't really understand why the sentiment that Drow strats are always on a clock seems to be so popular. VP's damage output and pickoff potential is incredible in all stages of the game. If the Drow was the carry they would be on a massive clock, but they have WR and Lion+Venge as their supports. This is an extremely hard game for Sumail to play.

I think it's because until the last patch or two, Drow has been viewed as a cheesy hero. But with her recent buffs, she's a decent carry. Gust feels like a totally different spell with the cast point change.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
May 11 2016 17:35 GMT
#3672
VP needs to convert these favourable fights into objectives though...
Gear 3rd
Profile Joined July 2011
1244 Posts
May 11 2016 17:35 GMT
#3673
you can still tp on this Titan spirit? what the hell Earthfrog...
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 17:36:11
May 11 2016 17:35 GMT
#3674
On May 12 2016 02:33 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2016 02:33 spudde123 wrote:
I don't really understand why the sentiment that Drow strats are always on a clock seems to be so popular. VP's damage output and pickoff potential is incredible in all stages of the game. If the Drow was the carry they would be on a massive clock, but they have WR and Lion+Venge as their supports. This is an extremely hard game for Sumail to play.

After certain point people can get to drow and smack her.

And Suma1l made it harder for himself.


Yeah, my point is that it isn't even that relevant if the Drow isn't even the carry. VP has extremely strong lategame heroes which are buffed by Drow aura. And the Drow still contributes by taking rosh and towers extremely quickly if they ever take a fight.

Don't get me wrong, obviously EG can wipe VP with one good initiation. But VP has the far superior lineup for a split up lategame scenario.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 11 2016 17:35 GMT
#3675
On May 12 2016 02:33 spudde123 wrote:
I don't really understand why the sentiment that Drow strats are always on a clock seems to be so popular. VP's damage output and pickoff potential is incredible in all stages of the game. If the Drow was the carry they would be on a massive clock, but they have WR and Lion+Venge as their supports. This is an extremely hard game for Sumail to play.

Because this isn't really a true drow meme push lineup. You have a lion that is a support set up for late game. Windrunner is a late game mid carry. That's why you only see w33 plays it in Secret as they were the only team capable of dragging to late game.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 11 2016 17:36 GMT
#3676
Pushing in ET/DS/Ember is so freaking tedious tho
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 11 2016 17:37 GMT
#3677
On May 12 2016 02:35 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2016 02:33 spudde123 wrote:
I don't really understand why the sentiment that Drow strats are always on a clock seems to be so popular. VP's damage output and pickoff potential is incredible in all stages of the game. If the Drow was the carry they would be on a massive clock, but they have WR and Lion+Venge as their supports. This is an extremely hard game for Sumail to play.

Because this isn't really a true drow meme push lineup. You have a lion that is a support set up for late game. Windrunner is a late game mid carry. That's why you only see w33 plays it in Secret as they were the only team capable of dragging to late game.


Yea I suppose the sentiment is mostly based on people thinking that Drow is a cheesy pushing hero, when it really doesn't even have to be played as such
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
May 11 2016 17:37 GMT
#3678
there we go! yeah, sumail is dead again for another 1.5mins
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 11 2016 17:37 GMT
#3679
welp
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
May 11 2016 17:37 GMT
#3680
vp are doing it
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