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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 16:46:01
May 06 2016 16:44 GMT
#521
On May 07 2016 01:44 Nyan wrote:
what? echo is total shit


No way, in so many of these fights it would have given Slark a kill. Getting a 3 hit burst with Dark Pact is enough to kill a lot of supports right away instead of having them turn, disable, and survive (or force staff away).

It's no good for a 6 slot or late game Slark, but if you're trying to win midgame fights against squishy targets or targets that will disable you it's a huge return on investment.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 06 2016 16:45 GMT
#522
I get that Leicester is a weird word but leciter? -_-
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Potassium
Profile Joined May 2012
Poland59 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 16:46:21
May 06 2016 16:46 GMT
#523
It's so depressing that only one team goes through
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34169 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 16:47:29
May 06 2016 16:47 GMT
#524
#leciter

what a team
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 16:47:56
May 06 2016 16:47 GMT
#525
Valve inviting 12 teams was beyond stupid... All the borderline teams should have been in the qualifier.
GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
May 06 2016 16:50 GMT
#526
On May 07 2016 01:47 Procake wrote:
Valve inviting 12 teams was beyond stupid... All the borderline teams should have been in the qualifier.


Yes, I agree with this so much. I honestly think there should only be like three or four invites.
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
May 06 2016 16:51 GMT
#527
On May 07 2016 01:47 Procake wrote:
Valve inviting 12 teams was beyond stupid... All the borderline teams should have been in the qualifier.

I feel like 2 qualifier spots for EU and China would be better. But I really don't think America or SEA deserves two qualifier spots.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 06 2016 16:53 GMT
#528
hhh , thanks for the autocorrect guys , ill google it next time you evil evil ppl
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32739 Posts
May 06 2016 16:54 GMT
#529
On May 07 2016 01:47 Procake wrote:
Valve inviting 12 teams was beyond stupid... All the borderline teams should have been in the qualifier.

Top four to six of the previous Major is fine, but twelve is a commercial decision to drag in all the fan favorite teams so they're guaranteed an appearance, even if they don't deserve it or should have qualified.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
May 06 2016 16:56 GMT
#530
Top 4 from last Major get invited, 2 more teams are invited based on non-major performance. 10 qualifier slots allotted based on a region's dominance/relevance. So 3 Europe, 3 China, 2 America, 2 SEA.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
May 06 2016 17:00 GMT
#531
On May 07 2016 01:47 Procake wrote:
Valve inviting 12 teams was beyond stupid... All the borderline teams should have been in the qualifier.

Sadly, the only way to keep 10 team EU qualifier was 12 invites with Alliance/OG/Navi invites.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
May 06 2016 17:01 GMT
#532
On May 07 2016 01:56 Moobutt wrote:
Top 4 from last Major get invited, 2 more teams are invited based on non-major performance. 10 qualifier slots allotted based on a region's dominance/relevance. So 3 Europe, 3 China, 2 America, 2 SEA.

How do you propose measuring relevance/dominance?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 17:08:49
May 06 2016 17:03 GMT
#533
On May 07 2016 02:01 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 01:56 Moobutt wrote:
Top 4 from last Major get invited, 2 more teams are invited based on non-major performance. 10 qualifier slots allotted based on a region's dominance/relevance. So 3 Europe, 3 China, 2 America, 2 SEA.

How do you propose measuring relevance/dominance?


finishs on international lans

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On May 07 2016 01:54 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 01:47 Procake wrote:
Valve inviting 12 teams was beyond stupid... All the borderline teams should have been in the qualifier.

Top four to six of the previous Major is fine, but twelve is a commercial decision to drag in all the fan favorite teams so they're guaranteed an appearance, even if they don't deserve it or should have qualified.


i dont think its a commercial decision, valve doesnt really need that. its just pure laziness.
with the short span between shanghai and manilla invites and that the tournaments that were played werent really stacked and had a lot of upcoming teams in it, the decision who to invite was a tiny bit harder. valve decided to invite anyone who will ever win anything even remotely international and just be done with it, no second thoughts wasted. i wonder what they do if there are two more tournament winners.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
May 06 2016 17:04 GMT
#534
On May 07 2016 02:03 hfglgg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 02:01 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 07 2016 01:56 Moobutt wrote:
Top 4 from last Major get invited, 2 more teams are invited based on non-major performance. 10 qualifier slots allotted based on a region's dominance/relevance. So 3 Europe, 3 China, 2 America, 2 SEA.

How do you propose measuring relevance/dominance?


finishs on international lans

How exactly, once again?
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ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
May 06 2016 17:06 GMT
#535
On May 07 2016 02:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 02:03 hfglgg wrote:
On May 07 2016 02:01 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 07 2016 01:56 Moobutt wrote:
Top 4 from last Major get invited, 2 more teams are invited based on non-major performance. 10 qualifier slots allotted based on a region's dominance/relevance. So 3 Europe, 3 China, 2 America, 2 SEA.

How do you propose measuring relevance/dominance?


finishs on international lans

How exactly, once again?


whoever wins the LANS closest to a Major gets an invite or someting
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
May 06 2016 17:08 GMT
#536
On May 07 2016 02:06 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 02:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 07 2016 02:03 hfglgg wrote:
On May 07 2016 02:01 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 07 2016 01:56 Moobutt wrote:
Top 4 from last Major get invited, 2 more teams are invited based on non-major performance. 10 qualifier slots allotted based on a region's dominance/relevance. So 3 Europe, 3 China, 2 America, 2 SEA.

How do you propose measuring relevance/dominance?


finishs on international lans

How exactly, once again?


whoever wins the LANS closest to a Major gets an invite or someting

We talk about qualifier spot distribution, not invites.
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Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
May 06 2016 17:08 GMT
#537
On May 07 2016 02:01 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 01:56 Moobutt wrote:
Top 4 from last Major get invited, 2 more teams are invited based on non-major performance. 10 qualifier slots allotted based on a region's dominance/relevance. So 3 Europe, 3 China, 2 America, 2 SEA.

How do you propose measuring relevance/dominance?

So, I'm totally spitballing...

Top 4 previous major + 2 performance invites non-related to majors. 10 left

Give every region an automatic 1 qualifier slot. 6 slots left.

Then, look at previous major results for relevance/dominance. More I think about it, the less I'm sure it would work. Each region would need a different format for the different amount of Qualifier spots.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
May 06 2016 17:13 GMT
#538
On May 07 2016 02:08 Moobutt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 02:01 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 07 2016 01:56 Moobutt wrote:
Top 4 from last Major get invited, 2 more teams are invited based on non-major performance. 10 qualifier slots allotted based on a region's dominance/relevance. So 3 Europe, 3 China, 2 America, 2 SEA.

How do you propose measuring relevance/dominance?

So, I'm totally spitballing...

Top 4 previous major + 2 performance invites non-related to majors. 10 left

Give every region an automatic 1 qualifier slot. 6 slots left.

Then, look at previous major results for relevance/dominance. More I think about it, the less I'm sure it would work. Each region would need a different format for the different amount of Qualifier spots.

Once again, there is no precise version to measure relevance.

The only viable one would be a wildcard, so something like top 4 + 2 performance + 2 qualifiers per region + 2 wildcards for 4 3rd places of qualifiers.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 17:17:36
May 06 2016 17:16 GMT
#539
On May 07 2016 02:08 Moobutt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 02:01 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 07 2016 01:56 Moobutt wrote:
Top 4 from last Major get invited, 2 more teams are invited based on non-major performance. 10 qualifier slots allotted based on a region's dominance/relevance. So 3 Europe, 3 China, 2 America, 2 SEA.

How do you propose measuring relevance/dominance?

So, I'm totally spitballing...

Top 4 previous major + 2 performance invites non-related to majors. 10 left

Give every region an automatic 1 qualifier slot. 6 slots left.

Then, look at previous major results for relevance/dominance. More I think about it, the less I'm sure it would work. Each region would need a different format for the different amount of Qualifier spots.


It could work, but they'd need a system to decide how to count results for each region.

As it is, they look at results from the last six months for their invite, which in my opinion is too long of a time, and it's why they had to invite this many teams.
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
May 06 2016 17:17 GMT
#540
Or they can simply add CIS as a separate region from Europe. There's is 0 sense that China and SEA are separate, but EU and CIS arent.
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