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Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
April 28 2016 17:31 GMT
#441
Oh man is this Sumail POTM I've been seeing in pubs lately. Watch him go midas/aghs and farm the enitre map lol
Getting too old for this..
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 17:33:02
April 28 2016 17:31 GMT
#442
I dislike Echo Sabre because intuitively it's such a bad item. Correct my calculations if I am wrong.

Attacks per second = (100 + IAS) × 0.01 / BAT

Level 11 Spec with Phase Urn Wand PMS = +51 Agility = +51IAS

Spec BAT = 1.7

Therefore attacks per second = 151 × 0.01 / 1.7 = ~0.89

Echo sabre adds 1 attack every 5 seconds, or 0.2 attacks every second.

0.89 + 0.2 = (100 + IAS) × 0.01 / 1.7
IAS = 85

Which means echo sabre is essentially a +34 attack speed item. Drums active give you +31 attack speed, and cost 1k cheaper.

[Edit]

Ok forgot to add the +10 AS it provides. So ~+44 attack speed then?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 17:32:09
April 28 2016 17:31 GMT
#443
actually ad finem might know /shrugface

u shud make a strategy thread about how much u hate echo sabre so i don't have to see it every other page
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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
April 28 2016 17:32 GMT
#444
On April 29 2016 02:30 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 02:29 Pandemona wrote:
Lets go EG!!! Aui pottm maybe?

sumail
but ad finem don't know


You think ? been a while since i see mid Potm work .
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
April 28 2016 17:33 GMT
#445
On April 29 2016 02:31 DucK- wrote:
I dislike Echo Sabre because intuitively it's such a bad item. Correct my calculations if I am wrong.

Attacks per second = (100 + IAS) × 0.01 / BAT

Level 11 Spec with Phase Urn Wand PMS = +51 Agility = +51IAS

Spec BAT = 1.7

Therefore attacks per second = 151 × 0.01 / 1.7 = ~0.89

Echo sabre adds 1 attack every 5 seconds, or 0.2 attacks every second.

0.89 + 0.2 = (100 + IAS) × 0.01 / 1.7
IAS = 85

Which means echo sabre is essentially a +34 attack speed item. Drums active give you +31 attack speed, and cost 1k cheaper.

[Edit]

Ok forgot to add the +10 AS it provides. So ~+44 attack speed then?


It's still much better in stats than Drums for melee cores.
Getting too old for this..
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
April 28 2016 17:34 GMT
#446
Sven as always. This is why Arteezy left
Getting too old for this..
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
April 28 2016 17:34 GMT
#447
Duck, watch Sven go Echo Sabre just to piss you off.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
jakesrevenge
Profile Joined August 2010
United States329 Posts
April 28 2016 17:34 GMT
#448
oh god sven into NP again
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
April 28 2016 17:35 GMT
#449
Will be see bulbul's clockwerk?
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
April 28 2016 17:35 GMT
#450
What the hell, peter? Were the sprouteezy memes not enough?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 28 2016 17:35 GMT
#451
On April 29 2016 02:34 Danzo wrote:
Sven as always. This is why Arteezy left

aui loves sven
On April 29 2016 02:34 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Duck, watch Sven go Echo Sabre just to piss you off.

its actually the build
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Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
April 28 2016 17:35 GMT
#452
On April 29 2016 02:35 Achaian wrote:
What the hell, peter? Were the sprouteezy memes not enough?


Let's see if Aui is smarter
Getting too old for this..
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 28 2016 17:36 GMT
#453
On April 29 2016 02:33 Danzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 02:31 DucK- wrote:
I dislike Echo Sabre because intuitively it's such a bad item. Correct my calculations if I am wrong.

Attacks per second = (100 + IAS) × 0.01 / BAT

Level 11 Spec with Phase Urn Wand PMS = +51 Agility = +51IAS

Spec BAT = 1.7

Therefore attacks per second = 151 × 0.01 / 1.7 = ~0.89

Echo sabre adds 1 attack every 5 seconds, or 0.2 attacks every second.

0.89 + 0.2 = (100 + IAS) × 0.01 / 1.7
IAS = 85

Which means echo sabre is essentially a +34 attack speed item. Drums active give you +31 attack speed, and cost 1k cheaper.

[Edit]

Ok forgot to add the +10 AS it provides. So ~+44 attack speed then?


It's still much better in stats than Drums for melee cores.


It cost 1k more. Add an Ogre Club with Drums if you want. MS/AS for team, with similar stats.
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 28 2016 17:36 GMT
#454
Where this Mirana supposed to go?
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 28 2016 17:36 GMT
#455
Fear or Aui carry?
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
April 28 2016 17:38 GMT
#456
On April 29 2016 02:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
its actually the build


So I've heard.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
April 28 2016 17:38 GMT
#457
On April 29 2016 02:36 babysimba wrote:
Fear or Aui carry?


Aui carry, unless something was changed recently
1nobody
Profile Joined May 2013
Czech Republic2040 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 17:40:36
April 28 2016 17:40 GMT
#458
So what is the orthodox start for new patch supposed to be?
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 28 2016 17:40 GMT
#459
Haha there is a person named makise kurisu on ad finem ..

Kuristiiinaaaa !!!
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 28 2016 17:42 GMT
#460
So NP cuts creep with Treants. Aui pulls radiant creepwave towards the cut creeps, but only 1 Dire creep was cut. The rest went the normal path and NP profit:O
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