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On April 24 2016 15:44 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2016 15:43 Vertical wrote:On April 24 2016 15:39 mutantmagnet wrote:On April 24 2016 15:37 uriel- wrote:On April 24 2016 15:35 Kraznaya wrote:On April 24 2016 15:35 Azarkon wrote:
China above Southeast Asia for the first time since Shanghai. VGR crushed MVP at SL Shhhh his brain is overheating ATM To be fair Azarkon isn't the only person on TL or Reddit who refuse to count Korea as part of SEA. I get it when there is a very large scene like Starcraft and there are multiple top players from one country and it is more along the eastern sector than strictly in the South East area geographically. he can think whatever he likes but Valve and most of us will still consider them as SEA he's not the center of the world, maybe the center of the joke The problem with considering them Southeast Asia, is that they don't even play in Southeast Asia these days. They practiced on China for Shanghai, and are now in Europe practicing there. They're no longer a Southeast Asia team.
Ideally they should be part of China, but MVP probably don't want that, Chinese regional qualifier is brutal as evident here. The tier 2s of China are no push over compare to SEA
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On April 24 2016 15:44 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2016 15:43 Vertical wrote:On April 24 2016 15:39 mutantmagnet wrote:On April 24 2016 15:37 uriel- wrote:On April 24 2016 15:35 Kraznaya wrote:On April 24 2016 15:35 Azarkon wrote:
China above Southeast Asia for the first time since Shanghai. VGR crushed MVP at SL Shhhh his brain is overheating ATM To be fair Azarkon isn't the only person on TL or Reddit who refuse to count Korea as part of SEA. I get it when there is a very large scene like Starcraft and there are multiple top players from one country and it is more along the eastern sector than strictly in the South East area geographically. he can think whatever he likes but Valve and most of us will still consider them as SEA he's not the center of the world, maybe the center of the joke The problem with considering them Southeast Asia, is that they don't even play in Southeast Asia these days. They practiced on China for Shanghai, and are now in Europe practicing there. They're no longer a Southeast Asia team.
Everyone practiced in Shangai. They were playing SEA tournaments leading up to it. You have a link for their announcement that they are even practicing in Europe?
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On April 24 2016 15:41 Azarkon wrote:
In case Empire doesn't win, I wonder how invite is going to be. Are they going to invite this new Chinese team? Hard to think they will.
Hrmm.. Wings being the one to advance creates a weird wrinkle.
If TL wins the Tournament, Na'Vi should get the invite. (2nd at Starladder/ 3rd/4th at DotaPit + other stuff)
If Empire makes the finals, whoever wins would get the Invite.
At least, that would make sense, given what they have done in the past.
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Oh shit its the MACHO MAN COMPETITION
I can't believe I remember that from how many years ago
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haha this host is hilarious
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On April 24 2016 15:49 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2016 15:42 mutantmagnet wrote:On April 24 2016 15:40 DonDomingo wrote:On April 24 2016 15:33 Taf the Ghost wrote:On April 24 2016 15:32 haduken wrote:
interestingly enough wings have lost the first game of all bo3 they've played this tournament.
they are adaptable in draft tho, unlike the burdens back home. They seem to be decent at adapting. And also seem to be play better as the series goes on. Though I'd love some detailed analysis how they get rolled so hard every game 1. Not that much to say. Wings had Chen/necro pos 1; Fnatic had Ench/spec. A fight broke out at 0:00 - Fnatic got first blood and even ended up using way less regen after the fight - Chen got bullied by Ench who destroyed Necro - Ench had Phase when Necro was lvl 2 and had no way of laning - rest was just death animation. But he's talking about every game 1 being a colossal failure. I think it's an exaggeration but Wings are doing something wrong with their opening games that is really inconsistent with how well they end up doing over time. either it's some sort of throw game, find out how your opponent play sort of thing which is pretty ballsy if true. either way why da fuq does col deserve an invite i don't get it. if wings win this tournament, not saying they win, it would be pretty double standard for them not to invite wings and invite VGR.
They won't win, which is why it's going to be an issue, were Empire to not win. Invite Fnatic, and people will say - why did you invite Fnatic when they didn't win any tournament and lost to the team that you didn't invite? Invite Empire, and people will say - why would you invite this team that didn't win any tournament and didn't even play until one week before the invite?
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Doesn't matter where they practise. If they choose to participate in sea tournaments and qualifiers, then they are a sea team.
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On April 24 2016 15:51 uriel- wrote:
Oh shit its the MACHO MAN COMPETITION
I can't believe I remember that from how many years ago
They said 2 years but I'm pretty sure it was 3.
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On April 24 2016 15:50 mutantmagnet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2016 15:44 Azarkon wrote:On April 24 2016 15:43 Vertical wrote:On April 24 2016 15:39 mutantmagnet wrote:On April 24 2016 15:37 uriel- wrote:On April 24 2016 15:35 Kraznaya wrote:On April 24 2016 15:35 Azarkon wrote:
China above Southeast Asia for the first time since Shanghai. VGR crushed MVP at SL Shhhh his brain is overheating ATM To be fair Azarkon isn't the only person on TL or Reddit who refuse to count Korea as part of SEA. I get it when there is a very large scene like Starcraft and there are multiple top players from one country and it is more along the eastern sector than strictly in the South East area geographically. he can think whatever he likes but Valve and most of us will still consider them as SEA he's not the center of the world, maybe the center of the joke The problem with considering them Southeast Asia, is that they don't even play in Southeast Asia these days. They practiced on China for Shanghai, and are now in Europe practicing there. They're no longer a Southeast Asia team. Everyone practiced in Shangai. They were playing SEA tournaments leading up to it. You have a link for their announcement that they are even practicing in Europe?
Just look at where they have been playing their public games.
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Where the hell is godz
Didn't godz get rekt by winter for the title the previous round
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On April 24 2016 15:51 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2016 15:49 haduken wrote:On April 24 2016 15:42 mutantmagnet wrote:On April 24 2016 15:40 DonDomingo wrote:On April 24 2016 15:33 Taf the Ghost wrote:On April 24 2016 15:32 haduken wrote:
interestingly enough wings have lost the first game of all bo3 they've played this tournament.
they are adaptable in draft tho, unlike the burdens back home. They seem to be decent at adapting. And also seem to be play better as the series goes on. Though I'd love some detailed analysis how they get rolled so hard every game 1. Not that much to say. Wings had Chen/necro pos 1; Fnatic had Ench/spec. A fight broke out at 0:00 - Fnatic got first blood and even ended up using way less regen after the fight - Chen got bullied by Ench who destroyed Necro - Ench had Phase when Necro was lvl 2 and had no way of laning - rest was just death animation. But he's talking about every game 1 being a colossal failure. I think it's an exaggeration but Wings are doing something wrong with their opening games that is really inconsistent with how well they end up doing over time. either it's some sort of throw game, find out how your opponent play sort of thing which is pretty ballsy if true. either way why da fuq does col deserve an invite i don't get it. if wings win this tournament, not saying they win, it would be pretty double standard for them not to invite wings and invite VGR. They won't win, which is why it's going to be an issue, were Empire to not win. Invite Fnatic, and people will say - why did you invite Fnatic when they didn't win any tournament and lost to the team that you didn't invite? Invite Empire, and people will say - why would you invite this team that didn't win any tournament and didn't even play until one week before the invite?
fnatic deserve an invite because you don't have a major in SEA and not invite the strongest team out of the region.
and that's nothing new, Mushi's crew have being getting invites in TI consistently even when they were considered international shit tier but they dominate their region which is why they get an invite.
Chinese invites are controversial this time around but if we have teams out of China that shown competitiveness then why not?
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Lol buncha white dudes and winter
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On April 24 2016 15:51 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2016 15:49 haduken wrote:On April 24 2016 15:42 mutantmagnet wrote:On April 24 2016 15:40 DonDomingo wrote:On April 24 2016 15:33 Taf the Ghost wrote:On April 24 2016 15:32 haduken wrote:
interestingly enough wings have lost the first game of all bo3 they've played this tournament.
they are adaptable in draft tho, unlike the burdens back home. They seem to be decent at adapting. And also seem to be play better as the series goes on. Though I'd love some detailed analysis how they get rolled so hard every game 1. Not that much to say. Wings had Chen/necro pos 1; Fnatic had Ench/spec. A fight broke out at 0:00 - Fnatic got first blood and even ended up using way less regen after the fight - Chen got bullied by Ench who destroyed Necro - Ench had Phase when Necro was lvl 2 and had no way of laning - rest was just death animation. But he's talking about every game 1 being a colossal failure. I think it's an exaggeration but Wings are doing something wrong with their opening games that is really inconsistent with how well they end up doing over time. either it's some sort of throw game, find out how your opponent play sort of thing which is pretty ballsy if true. either way why da fuq does col deserve an invite i don't get it. if wings win this tournament, not saying they win, it would be pretty double standard for them not to invite wings and invite VGR. They won't win, which is why it's going to be an issue, were Empire to not win. Invite Fnatic, and people will say - why did you invite Fnatic when they didn't win any tournament and lost to the team that you didn't invite? Invite Empire, and people will say - why would you invite this team that didn't win any tournament and didn't even play until one week before the invite?
Unlike bugs Valve won't reverse their decision due to public backlash. Bugs are easy to fix because the solution is obvious. Public backlash over who gets invited is always subjective and they can't won't bother about thinking of pleasing everyone.
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On April 24 2016 15:51 Taf the Ghost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2016 15:41 Azarkon wrote:
In case Empire doesn't win, I wonder how invite is going to be. Are they going to invite this new Chinese team? Hard to think they will. Hrmm.. Wings being the one to advance creates a weird wrinkle. If TL wins the Tournament, Na'Vi should get the invite. (2nd at Starladder/ 3rd/4th at DotaPit + other stuff) If Empire makes the finals, whoever wins would get the Invite. At least, that would make sense, given what they have done in the past.
I think Natus Vincere is going to get the invite no matter what because they need a team from that region.
The problem is Fnatic.
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ROFL im dieing grills on the grill
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Please Winter win for your country
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On April 24 2016 15:54 shouldbeworking wrote:
Lol buncha white dudes and winter
This seems to be a thing at SEA tournaments. Usually there aren't any white guys at all so they might as well make the best of this first time opportunity.
Sucks that Winter has to represent SEA.
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Slackz bringing hte clearly not quite comfortable in a suit look.
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