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On April 23 2016 23:29 Nedereden wrote:Universe on point - MVP for me... Puppey plsss no more CM... The strength of this iteration of Secret displayed in the way they won despite having CM. Icefrog buff Elsa!!  CM was huge, lets clinkz and invoker be more open to waste mana doing stuff in the early game
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On April 23 2016 23:31 lolnoty wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 23:29 Nedereden wrote:Universe on point - MVP for me... Puppey plsss no more CM... The strength of this iteration of Secret displayed in the way they won despite having CM. Icefrog buff Elsa!!  CM is a good hero atm. I've seen some good CM in my pubs but myself have a hard time to balance laning, roaming and farming. Also it's so easy to feed with her.
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On April 23 2016 23:29 Nedereden wrote:Universe on point - MVP for me... Puppey plsss no more CM... The strength of this iteration of Secret displayed in the way they won despite having CM. Icefrog buff Elsa!! 
Not sure you realise how useful that mana regen aura is for first 10-15 mins of the game. She's in a perfectly fine place at the moment.
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Incoming 6.87 CM overbuff.
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On April 23 2016 23:31 lolnoty wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 23:29 Nedereden wrote:Universe on point - MVP for me... Puppey plsss no more CM... The strength of this iteration of Secret displayed in the way they won despite having CM. Icefrog buff Elsa!!  CM is a good hero atm. Relevant flair. NOT. CM is not played at all literally in proscene for a reason. Its pretty much a way to show dominance when you win in a non-cheese strat with her on your team. Even Pie-guru cudnt do much with her... BUFF PLSS.
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On April 23 2016 23:32 Nebula wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 23:29 Nedereden wrote:Universe on point - MVP for me... Puppey plsss no more CM... The strength of this iteration of Secret displayed in the way they won despite having CM. Icefrog buff Elsa!!  Not sure you realise how useful that mana regen aura is for first 10-15 mins of the game. She's in a perfectly fine place at the moment. Not sure you realise that with the introduction of mango... the use of her mana regen aura has dropped significantly.. Have you seen her pick rates in proscene in the recent past?
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On April 23 2016 23:32 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 23:31 lolnoty wrote:On April 23 2016 23:29 Nedereden wrote:Universe on point - MVP for me... Puppey plsss no more CM... The strength of this iteration of Secret displayed in the way they won despite having CM. Icefrog buff Elsa!!  CM is a good hero atm. I've seen some good CM in my pubs but myself have a hard time to balance laning, roaming and farming. Also it's so easy to feed with her. she's super strong early (nova is sick) at securing a safelane by herself in most cases, her aura can be seen as like a 10% buff to your other lanes, and she can suck more exp out of jungle than most safelane supports if she needs.
then she's real fragile and you need to be very smart with positoning
if you did well and the game isnt over youll get to use your ult and do a million damage to end the game
edit: but it isn't uncommon for a CM to go like 1-5-7 but still be a big reason her team won, she plays an understated part that doesnt really show on kda
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On April 23 2016 23:36 Nedereden wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 23:32 Nebula wrote:On April 23 2016 23:29 Nedereden wrote:Universe on point - MVP for me... Puppey plsss no more CM... The strength of this iteration of Secret displayed in the way they won despite having CM. Icefrog buff Elsa!!  Not sure you realise how useful that mana regen aura is for first 10-15 mins of the game. She's in a perfectly fine place at the moment. Not sure you realise that with the introduction of mango... the use of her mana regen aura has dropped significantly.. Have you seen her pick rates in proscene in the recent past?
82 pro games with cm since beginning of year with a 53% win rate. Not so bad.
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I had to sleep. So a Chinese team won the second best American team? That's new - not. But a fourth place isn't going to do much for invite. Bad for Swindlemelonzz's team though, they're not going to get the invite now.
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On April 23 2016 23:39 Nebula wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 23:36 Nedereden wrote:On April 23 2016 23:32 Nebula wrote:On April 23 2016 23:29 Nedereden wrote:Universe on point - MVP for me... Puppey plsss no more CM... The strength of this iteration of Secret displayed in the way they won despite having CM. Icefrog buff Elsa!!  Not sure you realise how useful that mana regen aura is for first 10-15 mins of the game. She's in a perfectly fine place at the moment. Not sure you realise that with the introduction of mango... the use of her mana regen aura has dropped significantly.. Have you seen her pick rates in proscene in the recent past? 82 pro games with cm since beginning of year with a 53% win rate. Not so bad. Lol. Have you seen how many progames have been played since the beginning of this year?
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On April 23 2016 23:41 Nedereden wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 23:39 Nebula wrote:On April 23 2016 23:36 Nedereden wrote:On April 23 2016 23:32 Nebula wrote:On April 23 2016 23:29 Nedereden wrote:Universe on point - MVP for me... Puppey plsss no more CM... The strength of this iteration of Secret displayed in the way they won despite having CM. Icefrog buff Elsa!!  Not sure you realise how useful that mana regen aura is for first 10-15 mins of the game. She's in a perfectly fine place at the moment. Not sure you realise that with the introduction of mango... the use of her mana regen aura has dropped significantly.. Have you seen her pick rates in proscene in the recent past? 82 pro games with cm since beginning of year with a 53% win rate. Not so bad. Lol. Have you seen how many progames have been played since the beginning of this year?
So what about the 50+ other heroes that are picked less? :>
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On April 23 2016 23:41 Nedereden wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 23:39 Nebula wrote:On April 23 2016 23:36 Nedereden wrote:On April 23 2016 23:32 Nebula wrote:On April 23 2016 23:29 Nedereden wrote:Universe on point - MVP for me... Puppey plsss no more CM... The strength of this iteration of Secret displayed in the way they won despite having CM. Icefrog buff Elsa!!  Not sure you realise how useful that mana regen aura is for first 10-15 mins of the game. She's in a perfectly fine place at the moment. Not sure you realise that with the introduction of mango... the use of her mana regen aura has dropped significantly.. Have you seen her pick rates in proscene in the recent past? 82 pro games with cm since beginning of year with a 53% win rate. Not so bad. Lol. Have you seen how many progames have been played since the beginning of this year?
It's already a nice amount of games to be honest.
The hero is balanced as it is. The only thing I think would make her an even better hero is a bit more intelligence from the start.
RTZ HAS INVOKER AGAIN WTF EMPIRE
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On April 23 2016 23:41 Nedereden wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 23:39 Nebula wrote:On April 23 2016 23:36 Nedereden wrote:On April 23 2016 23:32 Nebula wrote:On April 23 2016 23:29 Nedereden wrote:Universe on point - MVP for me... Puppey plsss no more CM... The strength of this iteration of Secret displayed in the way they won despite having CM. Icefrog buff Elsa!!  Not sure you realise how useful that mana regen aura is for first 10-15 mins of the game. She's in a perfectly fine place at the moment. Not sure you realise that with the introduction of mango... the use of her mana regen aura has dropped significantly.. Have you seen her pick rates in proscene in the recent past? 82 pro games with cm since beginning of year with a 53% win rate. Not so bad. Lol. Have you seen how many progames have been played since the beginning of this year? the captains picking her are quite good so.. if you don't trust me then trust ppd and puppey that she's good enough to pick :D
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On April 23 2016 23:41 Nedereden wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 23:39 Nebula wrote:On April 23 2016 23:36 Nedereden wrote:On April 23 2016 23:32 Nebula wrote:On April 23 2016 23:29 Nedereden wrote:Universe on point - MVP for me... Puppey plsss no more CM... The strength of this iteration of Secret displayed in the way they won despite having CM. Icefrog buff Elsa!!  Not sure you realise how useful that mana regen aura is for first 10-15 mins of the game. She's in a perfectly fine place at the moment. Not sure you realise that with the introduction of mango... the use of her mana regen aura has dropped significantly.. Have you seen her pick rates in proscene in the recent past? 82 pro games with cm since beginning of year with a 53% win rate. Not so bad. Lol. Have you seen how many progames have been played since the beginning of this year? About 1400 if we include no-name tier 4 teams, which still leaves her at a 5% pickrate, which is far from bad. She's picked when she fits the draft, she's not a useless or overly weak hero.
Being picked in one in twenty games isn't a bad place to be for a hero, in a game where 100+ heroes exist. Plenty of heroes that aren't CM are picked much much much less.
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who the fucks ban doom and bh first phase when theres invoker left, empire its fucking dumb
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On April 23 2016 23:43 lolnoty wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 23:41 Nedereden wrote:On April 23 2016 23:39 Nebula wrote:On April 23 2016 23:36 Nedereden wrote:On April 23 2016 23:32 Nebula wrote:On April 23 2016 23:29 Nedereden wrote:Universe on point - MVP for me... Puppey plsss no more CM... The strength of this iteration of Secret displayed in the way they won despite having CM. Icefrog buff Elsa!!  Not sure you realise how useful that mana regen aura is for first 10-15 mins of the game. She's in a perfectly fine place at the moment. Not sure you realise that with the introduction of mango... the use of her mana regen aura has dropped significantly.. Have you seen her pick rates in proscene in the recent past? 82 pro games with cm since beginning of year with a 53% win rate. Not so bad. Lol. Have you seen how many progames have been played since the beginning of this year? the captains picking her are quite good so.. if you don't trust me then trust ppd and puppey that she's good enough to pick :D Yikes CM again!
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CM I think just needs better, not 280 move speed and I believe she will be picked a lot more. Doesn't have to be ridiculous 315 some heroes start with, just 290 will make a big increase.
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CM so bad she's picked a second time
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On April 23 2016 23:43 lolnoty wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 23:41 Nedereden wrote:On April 23 2016 23:39 Nebula wrote:On April 23 2016 23:36 Nedereden wrote:On April 23 2016 23:32 Nebula wrote:On April 23 2016 23:29 Nedereden wrote:Universe on point - MVP for me... Puppey plsss no more CM... The strength of this iteration of Secret displayed in the way they won despite having CM. Icefrog buff Elsa!!  Not sure you realise how useful that mana regen aura is for first 10-15 mins of the game. She's in a perfectly fine place at the moment. Not sure you realise that with the introduction of mango... the use of her mana regen aura has dropped significantly.. Have you seen her pick rates in proscene in the recent past? 82 pro games with cm since beginning of year with a 53% win rate. Not so bad. Lol. Have you seen how many progames have been played since the beginning of this year? the captains picking her are quite good so.. if you don't trust me then trust ppd and puppey that she's good enough to pick :D I still would like to see how many times she's picked after enchantress.
Rubick mid agha rush please!!
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