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On April 22 2016 21:10 nanaoei wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 21:07 caiovigg wrote:
Just woke up and saw that secret lost 2-0 to empire.
It makes me so happy that a team that refuses to play games get rekt when they finally have to play a real match.
Hope they realise you can't just scrim, you have to actually play something that matters to get better as a team. what do you mean by playing something that matters? most players were playing strictly scrims recently, if you take a look at dota profiles. (how there aren't any games recorded) i've also been paying attention to dotatv and very few players on pro-teams were playing more than a handful of pubs a day. what it seems like is that pubs are warmup or wind-down for them.
Not really, only some of the tier 1 teams were playing exclusively scrims. Empire for example is in the dreamleague qualifiers, fnatic play every qualifier in SEA, ehome play every qualifier in China, etc. Secret is declining lots of tournaments: starladder, dreamleague, dotapit, and some others that are still going to happen.
Empire just couldn't qualify over Navi, No Diggty and VP but was able to beat secret 2-0. I really think this trend of teams declining all the invites need to stop, and I'm really happy when some of them get rekt by a team that is playing hard a qualifier for weeks.
First teams started to complain about online qualifiers. Now they are declining LAN events. Soon they will play exclusively on the majors and that's it
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I followed every tournament since the beginning of dota2 but everything changed when valve attacked with their majors =|
It got so boring with everyone getting invited to tournaments. There might be going on dota now but it's boring dota.
Just go back to pre Majors. There used to be 1-2 invites for a tournament - the qualifiers were stacked. Now its 4-6 with many teams not even considering taking an invite.
I watched about 7000-9000 pro dota 2 games
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EHOME lost to champions.
Secret lost to Russians.
Tomorrow they decide once and for all who should ready his ass for a disband after the major.
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with TL winning it would be TL v Secret first round. But they would have to beat ehome first
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On April 22 2016 21:36 Nyan wrote:
I followed every tournament since the beginning of dota2 but everything changed when valve attacked with their majors =|
It got so boring with everyone getting invited to tournaments. There might be going on dota now but it's boring dota.
Just go back to pre Majors. There used to be 1-2 invites for a tournament - the qualifiers were stacked. Now its 4-6 with many teams not even considering taking an invite.
I watched about 7000-9000 pro dota 2 games
I was really scared that the same thing would happen with CSGO, but I guess it's safe for now because the majors prize pool is a million and there are already tournaments with 750k prize pool. CS have been so much better to watch, almost every day there is a match between 2 top 5 teams. I kinda wish secret and EG lose every LAN they attend so they start playing more. OG is playing very few games as well, but they have been invited to all the tournaments so it's hard to say they would decline playing an online qualifier.
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This ursa pick is kinda questionable.
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On April 22 2016 21:51 Elurie wrote:
This ursa pick is kinda questionable.
Good against Ench, Doom and gyro. Empire needed void for LP imo and aggressive trilane ursa.
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Massive battles in the midlane. So much fun to watch!
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Winter really is all about that tempo today.
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On April 22 2016 21:54 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Good against Ench, Doom and gyro. Empire needed void for LP imo and aggressive trilane ursa.
yep. As of yet it seems like that. As long as he doesnt get doomed and as long as lion ravages Empire Ursa is gonna wreck them!
e: and yeah. ohaio
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Pandemona
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This Empire team beat Secret 2-0 as well damn, not sure what to make of Secret now 0.o
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On April 22 2016 21:31 caiovigg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 21:10 nanaoei wrote:On April 22 2016 21:07 caiovigg wrote:
Just woke up and saw that secret lost 2-0 to empire.
It makes me so happy that a team that refuses to play games get rekt when they finally have to play a real match.
Hope they realise you can't just scrim, you have to actually play something that matters to get better as a team. what do you mean by playing something that matters? most players were playing strictly scrims recently, if you take a look at dota profiles. (how there aren't any games recorded) i've also been paying attention to dotatv and very few players on pro-teams were playing more than a handful of pubs a day. what it seems like is that pubs are warmup or wind-down for them. Not really, only some of the tier 1 teams were playing exclusively scrims. Empire for example is in the dreamleague qualifiers, fnatic play every qualifier in SEA, ehome play every qualifier in China, etc. Secret is declining lots of tournaments: starladder, dreamleague, dotapit, and some others that are still going to happen. Empire just couldn't qualify over Navi, No Diggty and VP but was able to beat secret 2-0. I really think this trend of teams declining all the invites need to stop, and I'm really happy when some of them get rekt by a team that is playing hard a qualifier for weeks. First teams started to complain about online qualifiers. Now they are declining LAN events. Soon they will play exclusively on the majors and that's it
Yeah, OG had an absurd amount of online qualifiers games before their major win, I think it's one of the best practice possible.
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On April 22 2016 22:07 Pandemona wrote:
This Empire team beat Secret 2-0 as well damn, not sure what to make of Secret now 0.o
If you look at the majors for example, Secret struggled a lot against Newbee Young at Frankfurt on day 1 (a team that ended up being last place) and got smashed by MVP at Shanghai. One series alone shows very little about the strength or weakness of a team.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On April 22 2016 22:10 spudde123 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 22:07 Pandemona wrote:
This Empire team beat Secret 2-0 as well damn, not sure what to make of Secret now 0.o If you look at the majors for example, Secret struggled a lot against Newbee Young at Frankfurt on day 1 (a team that ended up being last place) and got smashed by MVP at Shanghai. One series alone shows very little about the strength or weakness of a team.
Of course but it was a beat down, the MVP game was also a bit different as well. They looked awkward in there team fighting and very off.
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Im not sure who is ahead, Invoker is super farmed, but ursa its pretty much worthless, while Empire has 3 cores decently farmed
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Pandemona
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Ags gem NS...Fnatic in pole position
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prolly all on invoker now
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On April 22 2016 22:07 Pandemona wrote:
This Empire team beat Secret 2-0 as well damn, not sure what to make of Secret now 0.o
I don't think that you can translate results into "power levels" like that.
I feel that every game is more or less a fresh start at the moment with lots of game-specific momentum needed rather than previous performance. Especially for supposedly top tier teams like secret, mvp and to some extend eg (they just like secret havent played official games in a while).
Could also just be my impression though.
e: fights are going one way then the other and after a looping 10 ppl are dead
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