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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 22 2016 11:38 GMT
#801
On April 22 2016 20:36 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 20:34 Azarkon wrote:
On April 22 2016 20:34 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On April 22 2016 20:31 Azarkon wrote:
You guys know he could easily see my post right? Not that it makes it any different. The best team will win in the end. I personally don't care whether it's a Chinese team. I just don't think they have what it takes.

Chinese? Not Eastern?)



Southeast Asian can win. It's hard, but they can.

So far, it looks like miduan will crush any other mid at the tourney to death.

And we all know what happens next.


Because of two games against one of the worst middle players in professional Dota?

He's one of the best middle players out there, but there are plenty of top European and American middle players who are able to stand up to him, including a few in this tournament.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 11:43:07
April 22 2016 11:38 GMT
#802
On April 22 2016 20:31 icyF wrote:
What exactly is the format for the group stage? It's very vaguely explained both in this thread and on Liquipedia.


i'm going to try my best as a major newb.
these are GSL groups. consider that both groups are played at the same time if possible.
A vs B
C vs D
winner vs winner
----------------------------------
that is the first event day

loser vs loser
[winner of losers] play [losers of winners]
loser of either goes home in last and second last respectively. (i believe)

ultimately this decides playoffs/brackets in SEMIFINAL > grandfinal
which are played same day?
grandfinals may be left for the last day on the 24th, any segment of the above like leaving one semifinal > grandfinal combined to be the final event day.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
icyF
Profile Joined June 2008
Finland305 Posts
April 22 2016 11:43 GMT
#803
On April 22 2016 20:36 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 20:34 uriel- wrote:
On April 22 2016 20:33 Toadesstern wrote:
On April 22 2016 20:31 icyF wrote:
What exactly is the format for the group stage? It's very vaguely explained both in this thread and on Liquipedia.

A vs B - Game 1
C vs D - Game 2

Winner Game1 vs Winner Game2 <-- Game 3, Winner is 1st place
Loser Game1 vs Loser Game2 <- Game 4, last place finish for the team that lost

Loser Game3 vs Winner Game4 for 2nd / 3rd place




Is it straight up double elim from the group stages? So Liquid are already in WB finals?

I don't know anything about double elim but from the looks of it there's no double elim at all and the above is just for "seeding". You do it twice (group A + group B) and you end up with the top 2 teams in both teams playing out the 4-team brackets
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 20:34 uriel- wrote:

Edit: Or GSL style, 2 teams go through from each group and then 1A vs 2B, 2A vs 1B maybe.

yeah that


Thanks! I thought that this is probably the case, but the way it was presented on page 1 could mean anything.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 11:49:47
April 22 2016 11:46 GMT
#804
what was that stat just now about invoker, 700+ games in pro play? LOL

dj's chen is sick. i hope letting it through was worth it.
aaand oh my god bat is just flying circles around lifestealer + venge, literally.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 11:54:40
April 22 2016 11:51 GMT
#805
On April 22 2016 20:38 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 20:36 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On April 22 2016 20:34 Azarkon wrote:
On April 22 2016 20:34 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On April 22 2016 20:31 Azarkon wrote:
You guys know he could easily see my post right? Not that it makes it any different. The best team will win in the end. I personally don't care whether it's a Chinese team. I just don't think they have what it takes.

Chinese? Not Eastern?)



Southeast Asian can win. It's hard, but they can.

So far, it looks like miduan will crush any other mid at the tourney to death.

And we all know what happens next.


Because of two games against one of the worst middle players in professional Dota?

He's one of the best middle players out there, but there are plenty of top European and American middle players who are able to stand up to him, including a few in this tournament.

Because aside from rtz, he doesn't even have a competition.

Fata managed to lose lane as viper to wr with a Lvl 1 rosh advantage. Scandal is only good on 2 heroes max. Limpp isn't known for dominating mid performances either.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
April 22 2016 11:52 GMT
#806
alright. that was the wrong creep to consume.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 22 2016 11:57 GMT
#807
ohaiyo is such a fantastic offlaner
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 22 2016 11:59 GMT
#808
ahaha...that teamfight..fnatic are fighting around chen ult soo good
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
April 22 2016 11:59 GMT
#809
the empire is falling

but are the rebels just lucky? nah.
they just forgot about the chen heal.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 22 2016 12:03 GMT
#810
On April 22 2016 20:51 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 20:38 Azarkon wrote:
On April 22 2016 20:36 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On April 22 2016 20:34 Azarkon wrote:
On April 22 2016 20:34 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On April 22 2016 20:31 Azarkon wrote:
You guys know he could easily see my post right? Not that it makes it any different. The best team will win in the end. I personally don't care whether it's a Chinese team. I just don't think they have what it takes.

Chinese? Not Eastern?)



Southeast Asian can win. It's hard, but they can.

So far, it looks like miduan will crush any other mid at the tourney to death.

And we all know what happens next.


Because of two games against one of the worst middle players in professional Dota?

He's one of the best middle players out there, but there are plenty of top European and American middle players who are able to stand up to him, including a few in this tournament.

Because aside from rtz, he doesn't even have a competition.

Fata managed to lose lane as viper to wr with a Lvl 1 rosh advantage. Scandal is only good on 2 heroes max. Limpp isn't known for dominating mid performances either.


All of those players are able to handle him. I think this game shows it.
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 12:04:48
April 22 2016 12:03 GMT
#811
that rosh fight -_-

ohaiyo out of control
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
April 22 2016 12:06 GMT
#812
the problem i see is that lifestealer is living on foodstamps here. playing against a spectre who's useful even while doomed.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
caiovigg
Profile Joined July 2014
Brazil1802 Posts
April 22 2016 12:07 GMT
#813
Just woke up and saw that secret lost 2-0 to empire.

It makes me so happy that a team that refuses to play games get rekt when they finally have to play a real match.

Hope they realise you can't just scrim, you have to actually play something that matters to get better as a team.
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 22 2016 12:08 GMT
#814
wtf scandal?
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 22 2016 12:10 GMT
#815
Shadow of the bat!
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 12:11:41
April 22 2016 12:10 GMT
#816
On April 22 2016 21:07 caiovigg wrote:
Just woke up and saw that secret lost 2-0 to empire.

It makes me so happy that a team that refuses to play games get rekt when they finally have to play a real match.

Hope they realise you can't just scrim, you have to actually play something that matters to get better as a team.


what do you mean by playing something that matters?
most players were playing strictly scrims recently, if you take a look at dota profiles. (how there aren't any games recorded)
i've also been paying attention to dotatv and very few players on pro-teams were playing more than a handful of pubs a day.
what it seems like is that pubs are warmup or wind-down for them.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
April 22 2016 12:12 GMT
#817
That was some Xboct shit from Net, I love it lmao
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 22 2016 12:12 GMT
#818
that invoker damage..spectre is just a trailer..main movie is miduan
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 12:15:21
April 22 2016 12:13 GMT
#819
On April 22 2016 21:12 Dysisa wrote:
That was some Xboct shit from Net, I love it lmao


not the cleanest plays tho..but yeah, u can compare that to xboct plays..i think he is just taking food getting prepared for him in game
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
April 22 2016 12:15 GMT
#820
shadowblade bat ROFL
this has turned into a pub game, in the words of moonmeander
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
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