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Italy12246 Posts
On March 20 2016 00:46 GumBa wrote: Do you guys reckon if dota had been the LoL in korea we would see korea dominate this scene as well?
As in if it was as popular as LoL, including kespa teams and whatnot? Yes absolutely
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On March 20 2016 00:48 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2016 00:46 GumBa wrote: Do you guys reckon if dota had been the LoL in korea we would see korea dominate this scene as well? As in if it was as popular as LoL, including kespa teams and whatnot? Yes absolutely In LoL the Western teams didn't have 7-8 years of playing experience.
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Italy12246 Posts
On March 20 2016 00:49 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2016 00:48 Teoita wrote:On March 20 2016 00:46 GumBa wrote: Do you guys reckon if dota had been the LoL in korea we would see korea dominate this scene as well? As in if it was as popular as LoL, including kespa teams and whatnot? Yes absolutely In LoL the Western teams didn't have 7-8 years of playing experience.
Sure, but in sc2 arguably the experience wasn't that far before Kespa entered the scene (it was mainly ex bw b-teamers vs former bw/wc3 western players), and look at what happened within one year.
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Now MVP with the jugg pick, interesting.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
The years don't matter that much.
Korea was behind by 7 years in CS 1.6, had no servers, had no practice partners, had to play on 400 ping and still got a Championship contender team together.
I don't think they'd dominate the scene (it's too hard to say), but I'm certain they'd get a Championship contending team or 2 for sure.
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On March 20 2016 00:51 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2016 00:49 Dracolich70 wrote:On March 20 2016 00:48 Teoita wrote:On March 20 2016 00:46 GumBa wrote: Do you guys reckon if dota had been the LoL in korea we would see korea dominate this scene as well? As in if it was as popular as LoL, including kespa teams and whatnot? Yes absolutely In LoL the Western teams didn't have 7-8 years of playing experience. Sure, but in sc2 arguably the experience wasn't that far before Kespa entered the scene (it was mainly ex bw b-teamers vs former bw/wc3 western players), and look at what happened within one year. Which confirms what I say. You are comparing apples and pears.
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I really like the attitude coL has about regional dota and just their attitude towards the game overall. They seem to be a team that is willing to go above and beyond the level of conventional preparation to find success.
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Veeeeery brave to pick those squishy supports against lion, jugg and ench.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On March 20 2016 00:53 MaCRo.gg wrote: I really like the attitude coL has about regional dota and just their attitude towards the game overall. They seem to be a team that is willing to go above and beyond the level of conventional preparation to find success.
Moon wouldn't be the man he is today without Swindlez
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I wonder why Moon has been wearing that cross necklace lately, declaration of faith? Fashion statement?
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On March 20 2016 00:52 stuchiu wrote: The years don't matter that much.
Korea was behind by 7 years in CS 1.6, had no servers, had no practice partners, had to play on 400 ping and still got a Championship contender team together.
I don't think they'd dominate the scene (it's too hard to say), but I'm certain they'd get a Championship contending team or 2 for sure. Years matter a whole lot. As you can see most of the successful teams in DotA 2 is behind experienced leaders. Of course you can learn a lot to analyse others, and this is one of the things Korea does great, and have a competitive team. You can only do so many short-cuts to experience, before you hit a wall. Dominating the scene is just ludicrous.
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What does CM give you in this meta other than the aura?
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What happened to the Korean server anyways? I was hearing news about it when NEXON was still in dota. EDIT:
On March 20 2016 00:56 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2016 00:52 stuchiu wrote: The years don't matter that much.
Korea was behind by 7 years in CS 1.6, had no servers, had no practice partners, had to play on 400 ping and still got a Championship contender team together.
I don't think they'd dominate the scene (it's too hard to say), but I'm certain they'd get a Championship contending team or 2 for sure. Years matter a whole lot. As you can see most of the successful teams in DotA 2 is behind experienced leaders. Of course you can learn a lot to analyse others, and this is one of the things Korea does great, and have a competitive team. You can only do so many short-cuts to experience, before you hit a wall. MVP hasn't slowed their growth yet, we'll see when that "wall" hits. The miracles Korea has produced I wouldn't hold my breath.
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On March 20 2016 00:56 lphwo wrote: What does CM give you in this meta other than the aura?
ability to pin your loss on something
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On March 20 2016 00:56 lphwo wrote: What does CM give you in this meta other than the aura?
frost bite is great vs. ench/chen creeps
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On March 20 2016 00:46 GumBa wrote: Do you guys reckon if dota had been the LoL in korea we would see korea dominate this scene as well?
Sure but assuming they have the same isolation factor as the other games they ruled where the competition in korea is different from the world and they lack little exchanged with the teams outside of korea.
If that's not the case then i think it's not happening but they'll have the same chances as everybody else
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On March 20 2016 00:56 lphwo wrote: What does CM give you in this meta other than the aura? early ench/chen counter
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