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Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-26 09:58:02
February 26 2016 09:57 GMT
#1181
On February 26 2016 18:56 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 18:54 Dracolich70 wrote:
On February 26 2016 18:53 Azarkon wrote:
On February 26 2016 18:52 Dracolich70 wrote:
On February 26 2016 18:46 Azarkon wrote:
And the biggest problem, of course, has always been the management. They failed, for years, to build a competitive environment that motivates players to compete, and now that Dota is no longer the top game in China, they just can't find enough players with motivation to compete for them. I said this, of course, about four years ago, but the lack of new talent in China always showed an issue with the scene in terms of how competitive its environment was.

These players who've been here for years and years, they're tired and they no longer care. It is obvious. Yet the players who do care, lack the experience & skill to compete at the international level due to the failure of the old players to transfer their understanding, and so in time, they also lose hope and then stop trying. Seen it again and again, China's player base is too old and too tired now to give a fuck, and so they'll keep failing to teams from other regions that do still care.
They had 2-5th place at TI. 2nd place at Nanyang. 3rd at SL. 1st at MDL.


Their results have been getting worse over time.
It has always been back and forth. West is just growing more, as it is more dynamic.


This tournament has not been "back and forth." It's been China being shit on.
This tournament has not been great thus far for them. But no one are out yet. Last premier tournament eHome shat on everyone.
LiangHao
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
February 26 2016 09:57 GMT
#1182
IMPETUS
-Terran-
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
February 26 2016 09:57 GMT
#1183
On February 26 2016 18:50 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 18:50 goody153 wrote:
Actually this may not be as bad as it seems

Remember pre-ti5 China was so terrible then when TI5 happened it would've been TI4 repeat with Chinese dominance if it wasn't for EG


These tournaments are the equivalent of international. And as invite is decided by it, the Chinese won't have over two teams in the international.

Not really it doesn't have the same more than 10 million+ pricepool

I know competition is the main thing but the huge money is really motivating.
this is a quote
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-26 09:58:17
February 26 2016 09:57 GMT
#1184
On February 26 2016 18:57 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 18:56 Azarkon wrote:
On February 26 2016 18:54 Dracolich70 wrote:
On February 26 2016 18:53 Azarkon wrote:
On February 26 2016 18:52 Dracolich70 wrote:
On February 26 2016 18:46 Azarkon wrote:
And the biggest problem, of course, has always been the management. They failed, for years, to build a competitive environment that motivates players to compete, and now that Dota is no longer the top game in China, they just can't find enough players with motivation to compete for them. I said this, of course, about four years ago, but the lack of new talent in China always showed an issue with the scene in terms of how competitive its environment was.

These players who've been here for years and years, they're tired and they no longer care. It is obvious. Yet the players who do care, lack the experience & skill to compete at the international level due to the failure of the old players to transfer their understanding, and so in time, they also lose hope and then stop trying. Seen it again and again, China's player base is too old and too tired now to give a fuck, and so they'll keep failing to teams from other regions that do still care.
They had 2-5th place at TI. 2nd place at Nanyang. 3rd at SL. 1st at MDL.


Their results have been getting worse over time.
It has always been back and forth. West is just growing more, as it is more dynamic.


This tournament has not been "back and forth." It's been China being shit on.
This tournament has not been great thus far for them. But no one are out yet.


Two of their teams are already going to be last, because they have to play each other.
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
February 26 2016 09:58 GMT
#1185
yo guys this is actually retarded, there's a part of this thread discussing the game and another part discussing the drama

can't we just get another thread for that so everything is not fucked up
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
February 26 2016 09:59 GMT
#1186
are the people saying they're boycotting because 2GD is gone... Are they for real? despite the shitty delays, and other issues, real dota fans are here to watch matches, not personalities.
Batmankills
Profile Joined February 2016
145 Posts
February 26 2016 09:59 GMT
#1187
Midone is showing soo much promise this game ..midone God show honestly
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
February 26 2016 09:59 GMT
#1188
On February 26 2016 18:57 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 18:57 Dracolich70 wrote:
On February 26 2016 18:56 Azarkon wrote:
On February 26 2016 18:54 Dracolich70 wrote:
On February 26 2016 18:53 Azarkon wrote:
On February 26 2016 18:52 Dracolich70 wrote:
On February 26 2016 18:46 Azarkon wrote:
And the biggest problem, of course, has always been the management. They failed, for years, to build a competitive environment that motivates players to compete, and now that Dota is no longer the top game in China, they just can't find enough players with motivation to compete for them. I said this, of course, about four years ago, but the lack of new talent in China always showed an issue with the scene in terms of how competitive its environment was.

These players who've been here for years and years, they're tired and they no longer care. It is obvious. Yet the players who do care, lack the experience & skill to compete at the international level due to the failure of the old players to transfer their understanding, and so in time, they also lose hope and then stop trying. Seen it again and again, China's player base is too old and too tired now to give a fuck, and so they'll keep failing to teams from other regions that do still care.
They had 2-5th place at TI. 2nd place at Nanyang. 3rd at SL. 1st at MDL.


Their results have been getting worse over time.
It has always been back and forth. West is just growing more, as it is more dynamic.


This tournament has not been "back and forth." It's been China being shit on.
This tournament has not been great thus far for them. But no one are out yet.


Two of their teams are already going to be last, because they have to play each other.
Yes. That leaves 1 on each side of the lower brackets. 2 more tomorrow can change it, or bring more Chinese teams to secure some Chinese team going further in lower bracket.
LiangHao
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
February 26 2016 10:00 GMT
#1189
go back down mid
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
February 26 2016 10:00 GMT
#1190
Buyback -> Haunt still a deadly turn around thing
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
February 26 2016 10:00 GMT
#1191
On February 26 2016 18:59 trinxified wrote:
are the people saying they're boycotting because 2GD is gone... Are they for real? despite the shitty delays, and other issues, real dota fans are here to watch matches, not personalities.


The dota level is mostly shit, production value is shit, we enjoyed 2GD being back, they fired him. Nothing left interesting in here.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
February 26 2016 10:00 GMT
#1192
Spectre Zeus buybacks so dirty
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-26 10:01:28
February 26 2016 10:01 GMT
#1193
Pretty sure Alliance is ahead now =/ Fnatic really has to end it while spec has no bb
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-26 10:02:31
February 26 2016 10:01 GMT
#1194
On February 26 2016 19:00 Furikawari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 18:59 trinxified wrote:
are the people saying they're boycotting because 2GD is gone... Are they for real? despite the shitty delays, and other issues, real dota fans are here to watch matches, not personalities.


The dota level is mostly shit, production value is shit, we enjoyed 2GD being back, they fired him. Nothing left interesting in here.


there are no other professional tourneys/matches going on right now, so there's nothing else to watch either in terms of dota.

I get what you're saying tho. I liked 2GD, but to say they are done with this event because he's gone is just silly

let's hope the playoffs will be problem free, since it's gonna be at the main stage
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
February 26 2016 10:02 GMT
#1195
I can't watch whats happening with [A] vs fnatic ? Also the vg vs ts ?
this is a quote
brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
February 26 2016 10:02 GMT
#1196
Spectre buyback haunt still haunting my dreams
"if you don't believe you can do it, then you have no chance at all" - Arsene Wenger
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-26 10:03:49
February 26 2016 10:02 GMT
#1197
On February 26 2016 18:59 trinxified wrote:
are the people saying they're boycotting because 2GD is gone... Are they for real? despite the shitty delays, and other issues, real dota fans are here to watch matches, not personalities.


i dont see much dota going on tbh.
real dota fans want the best for dota and the best for dota is when the least amount of unqualified retards are involved with it. i.e. everyone working at shanghai majors.

its the internet equivalent to "vote with your money". i may watch the final, but other than that i am done with it.
valve has to step up their game.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
February 26 2016 10:04 GMT
#1198
I really dont like if fnatic just lets these buyback timers expire
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
February 26 2016 10:04 GMT
#1199
Only LGD left, huh.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
February 26 2016 10:05 GMT
#1200
On February 26 2016 19:02 hfglgg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 18:59 trinxified wrote:
are the people saying they're boycotting because 2GD is gone... Are they for real? despite the shitty delays, and other issues, real dota fans are here to watch matches, not personalities.


i dont see much dota going on tbh.
real dota fans want the best for dota and the best for dota is when the least amount of unqualified retards are involved with it. i.e. everyone working at shanghai majors.

its the internet equivalent to "vote with your money". i may watch the final, but other than that i am done with it.
valve has to step up their game.


I don't know who made you the one to decide what REAL dota fans want but I like dota and I like to watch players trying their best and I think alliance and fnatic are doing that right now so I'm going to watch them play dota

fuck your drama
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