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On February 26 2016 16:18 DavoS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 16:14 Taf the Ghost wrote:On February 26 2016 16:11 hfglgg wrote:On February 26 2016 16:08 Vertical wrote:On February 26 2016 16:06 hfglgg wrote:On February 26 2016 16:05 Vertical wrote:
can someone tell me WTF is going on ?
and WTF is wrong with LAN feature they dont have working computers. (no joke, their computers literally dont work and they are trying to switch it for like an hour) lets just dream this is the last major ever be held in china :| how come they dont have working computer 100% computer material are made in China and they're in China because they are retarded. just think back 12 months ago were problems like these were common in every single tournament. but at some point (coincidentally falling together with envys blogs on how terrible tournaments are run) people decided to not be retarded anymore. unfortunately china never got the memo. ppd said it was after DAC(?) that Valve flew out a bunch of Western Players and they came to an agreement on several things for the high-end tournaments. 144hz, 24inch monitors being an "industry standard". And even before that organizers like Dreamhack and ESL were upping their game so they'd be the go-to choices for events like this. Just throwing it out there, the Frankfurt Major was organized largely by ESL staff and the entire tournament had fewer hiccups than these two days of Shanghai Major
Just before that ESL's previous event had been ESL NY 2014 that had barely functioning computers as far as I recall.
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On February 26 2016 16:11 Batmankills wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 16:09 synapse wrote:On February 26 2016 16:08 OuchyDathurts wrote:
What if next year they have the China Major in another country so it isn't run horribly, then claim its being held in China and have everyone pretend it is like a faked moon landing kind of thing? Korea please yea ,i would love to see a major held in korea.the only thing is dota scene is almost dead in korea,but a nice place for major.Nexon invitational was one of the best tournament asia (including china) ever organized
I would bet they could get at least a few thousand (3-4k?) audience if there was no ticket cost. I don't know travel costs ofc but ignoring the Koreans that would go see it, it's a short flight for SEA/china.
There can't be a shortage of skilled production companies in South Korea to produce an esport event that would be 100x better than this.
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also,this starladder was ran smoothly and players were happy with the tournament
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On February 26 2016 16:21 hfglgg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 16:13 OuchyDathurts wrote:On February 26 2016 16:11 hfglgg wrote:On February 26 2016 16:08 Vertical wrote:On February 26 2016 16:06 hfglgg wrote:On February 26 2016 16:05 Vertical wrote:
can someone tell me WTF is going on ?
and WTF is wrong with LAN feature they dont have working computers. (no joke, their computers literally dont work and they are trying to switch it for like an hour) lets just dream this is the last major ever be held in china :| how come they dont have working computer 100% computer material are made in China and they're in China because they are retarded. just think back 12 months ago were problems like these were common in every single tournament. but at some point (coincidentally falling together with envys blogs on how terrible tournaments are run) people decided to not be retarded anymore. unfortunately china never got the memo. They also had a players summit at Valve HQ where they kind of established a baseline for acceptable standards....which went out the window in China. But I also feel like you're seeing less shitty run tourneys because there's just less tourneys. Once Valve brought the majors in it killed off having like 50 Starladders, DHs, etc a year so there's just less opportunities to have a poorly run tournament. nah some tournaments have improved massively. take esl one or the summit for example. at esl frankfurt 2014 they had to cancel the bo5 final and reduce it to bo3, reschedule a game on day 1 and had more downtimes than actual gametime for both days. then at esl frankfurt 2015 they had no technical problems whatsoever until the very end where the sound went silent for the stadium (but not the stream) for like 5 minutes. the same with the summit were the summit 2 had computers that werent able to run dota and no one tested it beforehand. in the first ~ 10 hours of the tournament only one bo3 was played. when the summit 3 came around it was the smoothest run tournament up to that date including internationals. starladder improved massively as well. in the older starladder days there were random ~6hour pauses for no reasons between two matches and the last starladder at minsk was super awesome except the delays on day1 and a unstable english stream for the group stages. all around the western tournaments have improved massively while china is still the same as it was a year ago.
I'm not saying tournaments haven't generally stepped their game up, they definitely have.
I'm saying there are less tournaments overall as well. Less overall tournaments means less opportunities to screw a tournament up too.
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On February 26 2016 16:19 Heyoka wrote:
I WANT TO WATCH DOTA WHEN DO I GET TO WATCH DOTA
Whens the next memento held outside of china? Then is the safest answer I can give you
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On February 26 2016 16:11 Batmankills wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 16:09 synapse wrote:On February 26 2016 16:08 OuchyDathurts wrote:
What if next year they have the China Major in another country so it isn't run horribly, then claim its being held in China and have everyone pretend it is like a faked moon landing kind of thing? Korea please yea ,i would love to see a major held in korea.the only thing is dota scene is almost dead in korea,but a nice place for major.Nexon invitational was one of the best tournament asia (including china) ever organized
It appears it was GOMtv that ran the leagues last time. So, since they don't exist anymore, it'd either be SpoTV, Afreeca or OGN. Any of them would be AWESOME to run a Dota2 Major. The Korean eSports scene is a pretty large business by this point, and the production values are top notch.
Though convincing one to run a tournament might be harder than we think.
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On February 26 2016 16:22 lolnoty wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 16:11 Batmankills wrote:On February 26 2016 16:09 synapse wrote:On February 26 2016 16:08 OuchyDathurts wrote:
What if next year they have the China Major in another country so it isn't run horribly, then claim its being held in China and have everyone pretend it is like a faked moon landing kind of thing? Korea please yea ,i would love to see a major held in korea.the only thing is dota scene is almost dead in korea,but a nice place for major.Nexon invitational was one of the best tournament asia (including china) ever organized I would bet they could get at least a few thousand (3-4k?) audience if there was no ticket cost. I don't know travel costs ofc but ignoring the Koreans that would go see it, it's a short flight for SEA/china. There can't be a shortage of skilled production companies in South Korea to produce an esport event that would be 100x better than this.
Yep.Koreans are pretty good at organizing tournaments and were doing pretty good even in the tournament organized for their home teams.That's why i said that i would love to see them organize majors.
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On February 26 2016 16:22 OuchyDathurts wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 16:21 hfglgg wrote:On February 26 2016 16:13 OuchyDathurts wrote:On February 26 2016 16:11 hfglgg wrote:On February 26 2016 16:08 Vertical wrote:On February 26 2016 16:06 hfglgg wrote:On February 26 2016 16:05 Vertical wrote:
can someone tell me WTF is going on ?
and WTF is wrong with LAN feature they dont have working computers. (no joke, their computers literally dont work and they are trying to switch it for like an hour) lets just dream this is the last major ever be held in china :| how come they dont have working computer 100% computer material are made in China and they're in China because they are retarded. just think back 12 months ago were problems like these were common in every single tournament. but at some point (coincidentally falling together with envys blogs on how terrible tournaments are run) people decided to not be retarded anymore. unfortunately china never got the memo. They also had a players summit at Valve HQ where they kind of established a baseline for acceptable standards....which went out the window in China. But I also feel like you're seeing less shitty run tourneys because there's just less tourneys. Once Valve brought the majors in it killed off having like 50 Starladders, DHs, etc a year so there's just less opportunities to have a poorly run tournament. nah some tournaments have improved massively. take esl one or the summit for example. at esl frankfurt 2014 they had to cancel the bo5 final and reduce it to bo3, reschedule a game on day 1 and had more downtimes than actual gametime for both days. then at esl frankfurt 2015 they had no technical problems whatsoever until the very end where the sound went silent for the stadium (but not the stream) for like 5 minutes. the same with the summit were the summit 2 had computers that werent able to run dota and no one tested it beforehand. in the first ~ 10 hours of the tournament only one bo3 was played. when the summit 3 came around it was the smoothest run tournament up to that date including internationals. starladder improved massively as well. in the older starladder days there were random ~6hour pauses for no reasons between two matches and the last starladder at minsk was super awesome except the delays on day1 and a unstable english stream for the group stages. all around the western tournaments have improved massively while china is still the same as it was a year ago. I'm not saying tournaments haven't generally stepped their game up, they definitely have. I'm saying there are less tournaments overall as well. Less overall tournaments means less opportunities to screw a tournament up too.
are there though? if anything the number of tournaments with some sort of lan have improved. i dont think there is a lan series that was canceld (except for china).
the best thing though is that last year at dac i got flamed hard for pointing out perfect world is at fault and that it is their incompetence that leads to the technical problems while now its common sense that technical problems are a fuck up and not a law of natures. feels pretty good.
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So glad I didn't buy this compendium
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i'm glad i bought the compendium
it means i have more reason to play dota during the downtime
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On February 26 2016 16:19 Heyoka wrote:
I WANT TO WATCH DOTA WHEN DO I GET TO WATCH DOTA
There's a dota stream?
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On February 26 2016 16:25 Jaaaaasper wrote:
So glad I didn't buy this compendium
MVP.P has made sure to kill everyone's predictions already. 
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This is a very interesting tournament. I can't help but to feel it might be improved by having some actual games, but that's a minor quibble really.
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We may have seen more of the title card than actual games.
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Pimp had a really good rant on Reddit about how shitty this tournament makes the entire scene look and how a team of 3-5 guys from BTS or RUHUB or Mineski could produce a tournament of this exact same production value but less technical delays.
Might just have to watch a Captain's Draft VOD and call it a night
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I've recently upgraded my system, so in the time it's taken since Game 2 of VG vs Fnantic to start, I've managed to run a full sector check on a mechanic 2TB HDD and it's almost finished defragging as well.
MLG Dallas, never forget!
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On February 26 2016 16:29 Taf the Ghost wrote:
I've recently upgraded my system, so in the time it's taken since Game 2 of VG vs Fnantic to start, I've managed to run a full sector check on a mechanic 2TB HDD and it's almost finished defragging as well.
MLG Dallas, never forget!
I just realized MLG Dallas is basically the normal level of fail for a chinese lan
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On February 26 2016 16:28 DavoS wrote:
Pimp had a really good rant on Reddit about how shitty this tournament makes the entire scene look and how a team of 3-5 guys from BTS or RUHUB or Mineski could produce a tournament of this exact same production value but less technical delays.
Might just have to watch a Captain's Draft VOD and call it a night
Captain's Draft was pretty much a great watch the entire Bracket Stage. Even the stomps were pretty enjoyable, mostly because you've never seen the combination that made it happen. (That the average game was something like 10+ minutes shorter than the current Patch helps matters.)
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