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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-27 15:21:27
January 27 2016 15:21 GMT
#1321
Can't smack the Bristleback.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 27 2016 15:21 GMT
#1322
On January 28 2016 00:20 Acritter wrote:
Universe has 3 LAST HITS at 3 minutes

What the absolute fuck

Can't do shit without mana
Carry OD is legit yo
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 27 2016 15:22 GMT
#1323
Newbee pretty Davai Doto this patch it seems lol
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 27 2016 15:22 GMT
#1324
so anyone think this game will go bad for EG and then they come back with spltipushing prophet and batrider pickoffs or wha.
WriterXiao8~~
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
January 27 2016 15:24 GMT
#1325
On January 28 2016 00:20 uthgard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 00:16 Acritter wrote:
On January 28 2016 00:14 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Surprised EG didn't pick up the Faceless Void when it made it to the 2nd phase. Probably why they took so much time picking.

If EG wins, they lock in top 3 with a tie-breaker over Newbee.

Void+Batrider is like antisynergy, you're wasting a core slot on a hero that absolutely cannot put any damage into Chrono, meaning that you have to use something like WD and then some strange magic damage core which ultimately limits your lategame carry potential by a huge amount

void + bat is fine, you simply need a strong safelaner and supports to complement it

I mean EG literally ran it last tournament (SL 13)

it's true, and OD is basically the only carry that it works well with (first pick this draft)

also worth noting: they were playing against vega, who are much worse and who EG showed no respect for (common trend)
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 27 2016 15:25 GMT
#1326
On January 28 2016 00:22 Kipsate wrote:
so anyone think this game will go bad for EG and then they come back with spltipushing prophet and batrider pickoffs or wha.

Splitpushing against NS and earth spirit? No I don't think.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 27 2016 15:26 GMT
#1327
I mean it shouldnt but Newbee has its ways
WriterXiao8~~
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-27 15:28:49
January 27 2016 15:28 GMT
#1328
Arteezy has been looking lackluster.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
January 27 2016 15:28 GMT
#1329
Not even behind.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
January 27 2016 15:29 GMT
#1330
EG are 100% trying to be Alliance this game, but PPD is not Akke, Universe is not Bulldog, and RTZ is not Loda

Sumail is much closer to s4 but there are a couple of differences

They're almost certainly going to win, but it'll be really awkward and messy instead of being a neat, perfect Alliance execution
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
January 27 2016 15:29 GMT
#1331
Dude im not impressed by Sumail on ANY hero for the last 2 tournaments most of the times when he needs to do something he either feeds or he just just meh...
People call me Jack, OMASJack
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3791 Posts
January 27 2016 15:29 GMT
#1332
"I guess I'm going back to your mom."

I rarely like these your mom jokes but that one had really great timing and was deserved.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 27 2016 15:29 GMT
#1333
On January 28 2016 00:29 Acritter wrote:
EG are 100% trying to be Alliance this game, but PPD is not Akke, Universe is not Bulldog, and RTZ is not Loda

Sumail is much closer to s4 but there are a couple of differences

They're almost certainly going to win, but it'll be really awkward and messy instead of being a neat, perfect Alliance execution


RTZ & Sumail are better farmers. But the Akke/Bulldog points are correct.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-27 15:31:47
January 27 2016 15:31 GMT
#1334
On January 28 2016 00:00 DucK- wrote:
This is the difference between Western and Chinese dota.

Chinese strongly believe in grouping up, 1 key kill into objectives. They pride themselves in being able to engage or hunt effectively.

Western teams believe in aggressive farming all over the map. Even if they die, they often have farmed more than they loss, especially when their other cores are farming while the opponent sends the whole squad to kill. They look to hit a certain late game farm window.

Chinese supports believe in protecting cores by being near them. Numbers advantage makes it difficult to gank the cores.

Western supports believe in protecting cores by simply drawing the enemy towards them instead of the cores.


Been this way since 2013, when Alliance taught the West how to play.
SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
January 27 2016 15:33 GMT
#1335
HAHAHAHAAH I cant take it anymore AB: "Sumail is throwing grenades, he is good at the family business"
People call me Jack, OMASJack
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
January 27 2016 15:33 GMT
#1336
On January 28 2016 00:29 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 00:29 Acritter wrote:
EG are 100% trying to be Alliance this game, but PPD is not Akke, Universe is not Bulldog, and RTZ is not Loda

Sumail is much closer to s4 but there are a couple of differences

They're almost certainly going to win, but it'll be really awkward and messy instead of being a neat, perfect Alliance execution


RTZ & Sumail are better farmers. But the Akke/Bulldog points are correct.

When Alliance drafts this kind of lineup, they're not interested in either the mid or safelane heroes' farm

It's not all about things that you can assign numerical values to
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
January 27 2016 15:34 GMT
#1337
Arteezy is top net worth even tho he died 4 times in the first 14 minutes. Baffling
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
January 27 2016 15:34 GMT
#1338
On January 28 2016 00:33 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 00:29 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On January 28 2016 00:29 Acritter wrote:
EG are 100% trying to be Alliance this game, but PPD is not Akke, Universe is not Bulldog, and RTZ is not Loda

Sumail is much closer to s4 but there are a couple of differences

They're almost certainly going to win, but it'll be really awkward and messy instead of being a neat, perfect Alliance execution


RTZ & Sumail are better farmers. But the Akke/Bulldog points are correct.

When Alliance drafts this kind of lineup, they're not interested in either the mid or safelane heroes' farm

It's not all about things that you can assign numerical values to


Alliance won't pick Fear's hero, though.
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3791 Posts
January 27 2016 15:35 GMT
#1339
On January 28 2016 00:29 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 00:29 Acritter wrote:
EG are 100% trying to be Alliance this game, but PPD is not Akke, Universe is not Bulldog, and RTZ is not Loda

Sumail is much closer to s4 but there are a couple of differences

They're almost certainly going to win, but it'll be really awkward and messy instead of being a neat, perfect Alliance execution


RTZ & Sumail are better farmers. But the Akke/Bulldog points are correct.



RTZ is a better farmer but a better fighter? I think he generally is but when Loda's team is on point he's better. When the decision making is up to him he can get caught in momments where he is caught between two decisions and commits to neither. Those games makes me dislike him more than RTZ as a fighter. Even when RTZ does something stupid he goes balls in. It rarely works but he hasn't waffled in a way that doesn't give the rest of the team a clear idea of what they should do next (engage or retreat and let him die)
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
January 27 2016 15:36 GMT
#1340
On January 28 2016 00:34 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 00:33 Acritter wrote:
On January 28 2016 00:29 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On January 28 2016 00:29 Acritter wrote:
EG are 100% trying to be Alliance this game, but PPD is not Akke, Universe is not Bulldog, and RTZ is not Loda

Sumail is much closer to s4 but there are a couple of differences

They're almost certainly going to win, but it'll be really awkward and messy instead of being a neat, perfect Alliance execution


RTZ & Sumail are better farmers. But the Akke/Bulldog points are correct.

When Alliance drafts this kind of lineup, they're not interested in either the mid or safelane heroes' farm

It's not all about things that you can assign numerical values to


Alliance won't pick Fear's hero, though.

I don't think EGM Venge is something silly at all, they ran it a few times in Starladder
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
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