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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On January 27 2016 16:23 lolfail9001 wrote: If anything, the opposite. Before the changes it was acceptable and even QoP favored with some assist in ganking. Now... HA. You know how in order to steal intelligence, you now have to hit with your short ass range, while this opponent you're talking about has one of the longest range in the game? | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On January 27 2016 16:25 Azarkon wrote: You know how in order to steal intelligence, you now have to hit with your short ass range, while this opponent you're talking about has one of the longest range in the game? QoP? One of the longest range in the game? Not even "default ranged" 600 range, and she has to approach attack radius/astral radius to cast her dagger, ya know. | ||
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goody153
44245 Posts
On January 27 2016 16:23 broodbucket wrote: I think people put way too much emphasis on who has the crown icon ingame. Drafting being a one-person job is a pretty dated concept, the clicker has the final say but it's a group decision, at least in western teams Yeah pretty much. I think that's also how it works for chinese teams, they kinda talk alot drafting time. that's why i said it still depends on the flowing strategy inside the team | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On January 27 2016 16:26 lolfail9001 wrote: QoP? One of the longest range in the game? Not even "default ranged" 600 range, and she has to approach attack radius/astral radius to cast her dagger, ya know. Outworld Destroyer has 450 range. | ||
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eieio
United States14512 Posts
> arguing with azarkon I mean come on guys | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Level 1 dagger has 450 range. Your turn, and thus i advise you keep citing 2015, as if 2014 never happened. On January 27 2016 16:27 eieio wrote: > 2016 > arguing with azarkon I mean come on guys I am bored and sleepy, so i get away with it. | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
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deathzz
669 Posts
On January 27 2016 16:23 Super_Style wrote: Azarkon is right, last tournament china won was starladder 12 in april last year. Year was dominated by secret and eg mostly, also empire won like 3 back to back lans in a row. Well sometimes Azarkon harps about West, other times it's about EG and ppd or puppey. So I am always confused if he uses West. In any case, I don't understand the need to compare. Many teams except EG have hit some good strides over the past 2 years. There hasn't really been a constantly top tier team except EG. Teams have looked strong for 1-2 tournaments and then fall into some kind of slump. TL:DR: EG 1st dota 2 banjo | ||
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Verniy
Canada3360 Posts
this could go really well for OG assuming they have players that can actually play these heroes | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
So? Who told you you had to use it at level 1? | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On January 27 2016 16:29 Verniy wrote: earth spirit + oracle this could go really well for OG assuming they have players that can actually play these heroes Plot twist: their only good earth spirit is Miracle. | ||
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SnowStormer
Norway275 Posts
On January 27 2016 16:30 Azarkon wrote: So? Who told you you had to use it at level 1? You don't really play the game much, do you? | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On January 27 2016 16:30 Azarkon wrote: So? Who told you you had to use it at level 1? You start lane at level 3? I mean, you will survive until it on any hero but even then lvl2 dagger is 475 range. Or your master build against OD involves level 4 dagger by 7  ? | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On January 27 2016 16:30 Azarkon wrote: OD wins most lanes, except versus Razor.So? Who told you you had to use it at level 1? | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On January 27 2016 16:32 hfglgg wrote: is kunkka a thing? i havent watched dota since the end of starladder and i am surprised to see the mighty admiral. Someone picked it but it was rare sight. | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On January 27 2016 16:31 lolfail9001 wrote: You start lane at level 3? I mean, you will survive until it on any hero but even then lvl2 dagger is 475 range. Or your master build against OD involves level 4 dagger by 7 ?You don't have to ever get hit by Outworld Devourer in this match up until level 3, when he's actually able to reach you with his W. But as the standard Outworld Devourer build is actually to max Q and E first, you don't EVER have to get hit by him unless you absolutely want to be. The match up isn't one where you're able to go in and get Outworld Devourer to leave because the standard Outworld Devourer build deals quite well with an offensive opponent. But it isn't a match up you ought to lose by level 6. | ||
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