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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
December 09 2015 19:59 GMT
#101
Anyone know the win rate of Radiance Alch?

It's got to be <40%.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 09 2015 20:00 GMT
#102
On December 10 2015 04:57 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2015 04:52 Nevuk wrote:
On December 10 2015 04:33 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
On December 10 2015 04:10 Nakama wrote:
OG looks like the old alliance to me, when the new patch hits they wont ever come close to win anything again


They do seem to have a drafting edge over most teams at the moment, but the only player with a small hero pool atm seems to be NoTail. And he just switched over to a core role.

Sort of ironic as I've seen at least a few pros citing notail's massive hero pool as one of the strengths of the team. He's not like a top player on very many heroes (tiny/meepo but even he says w33 is better at meepo), but he's quite capable on most of them. If anyone on the team has a small pool, it seems to be miracle

It's because he was bad during his last week-end lan. Don't go further than the previous lan to determine a player's ability.

He was playing gameboy during the drafts, I wouldn't take how they did that LAN very seriously.
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
December 09 2015 20:01 GMT
#103
dunno, radiance feels fine vs Meepo for the blind and blink cancel and shit but the manta/octarine is game losing
Romanes eunt domus
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 20:02:34
December 09 2015 20:01 GMT
#104
On December 10 2015 04:59 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Anyone know the win rate of Radiance Alch?

It's got to be <40%.

Alch winrates for 6.85 (from datdota)
0.423 w/radiance (52-71)
0.540 w/o radiance
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
December 09 2015 20:02 GMT
#105
Rad Alch isn't the right build this game.

1. You're the only core

2. You're against 2 cores (or 6 lol) that don't give a shit about Radiance burn

3. You can't split push against Meepo

Rad Alch has its place, but not this game.
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
December 09 2015 20:02 GMT
#106
On December 10 2015 04:59 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Anyone know the win rate of Radiance Alch?

It's got to be <40%.

Alch's winrate this patch is 46.3%
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 20:04:05
December 09 2015 20:03 GMT
#107
On December 10 2015 04:59 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Anyone know the win rate of Radiance Alch?

It's got to be <40%.

44% and he has a 46% winrate this patch

edit omagad i'm so slow on datdota compared to you!
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
December 09 2015 20:04 GMT
#108
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
December 09 2015 20:04 GMT
#109
On December 10 2015 04:41 TomatoBisque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2015 04:27 YourGoodFriend wrote:
On December 10 2015 04:10 Nakama wrote:
OG looks like the old alliance to me, when the new patch hits they wont ever come close to win anything again


this seems like a pretty fight provoking comment, {{insert team}} will suck so bad when {{insert arbitrary thing}} that they will no longer be good...

I would hardly call a balance patch arbitrary


Agreed if we knew what was in it. But we don't so it arbitrary saying the "new patch"
anonymous is the most famous author that anyone can be
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
December 09 2015 20:04 GMT
#110
A manfight Alch could have solo carried this game against OG's cores, though 3 saves strat is an issue.
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
December 09 2015 20:06 GMT
#111
winter has incredibly big calf for the man of his size
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
December 09 2015 20:06 GMT
#112
On December 10 2015 05:01 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2015 04:59 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Anyone know the win rate of Radiance Alch?

It's got to be <40%.

Alch winrates for 6.85 (from datdota)
0.423 w/radiance (52-71)
0.540 w/o radiance

That's a pretty monumental difference.

Makes you wonder what's going on with pros sometimes.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
December 09 2015 20:07 GMT
#113
On December 10 2015 05:04 DucK- wrote:
A manfight Alch could have solo carried this game against OG's cores, though 3 saves strat is an issue.

Swap gyro for shadow demon and let meepo farm top and bot at the same time.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
December 09 2015 20:08 GMT
#114
God fucking damnit I'd forgotten this G2A ad existed
ffxiv enjoyer
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 09 2015 20:09 GMT
#115
Hm do I play a game of dota or just chill in another game for an hour D:
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
December 09 2015 20:10 GMT
#116
Not sure why some think OG are dependant on patch. They are probably the team to be least dependant on patch.
LiangHao
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
December 09 2015 20:10 GMT
#117
On December 10 2015 05:06 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2015 05:01 Nevuk wrote:
On December 10 2015 04:59 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Anyone know the win rate of Radiance Alch?

It's got to be <40%.

Alch winrates for 6.85 (from datdota)
0.423 w/radiance (52-71)
0.540 w/o radiance

That's a pretty monumental difference.

Makes you wonder what's going on with pros sometimes.

dota is trendy
most popular thing will continue to be done the most, even if it's not actually that good
if you want a historical example, OD was the 3rd most picked/banned hero at TI3 but only had a 36.4% winrate
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
December 09 2015 20:14 GMT
#118
Oops I forgot there was Dota on and played Max Payne 3 instead, did I already miss OG rolling over Mineski? Were the games any good?
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
December 09 2015 20:14 GMT
#119
1 fucking hour break?
High Risk Low Reward
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 09 2015 20:15 GMT
#120
On December 10 2015 05:14 Dysisa wrote:
Oops I forgot there was Dota on and played Max Payne 3 instead, did I already miss OG rolling over Mineski? Were the games any good?

i mean game 1 OG pooped on mineski
game 2 mineski got literally teh BEST POSSIBLE start for alch with him vs like a meepo and he got stacks and bounties then he went treads radiance and fed 5 times and they lost super hard

basically boring ass stomps
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