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SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
November 19 2015 14:20 GMT
#401
On November 19 2015 23:16 SQWKZ wrote:
Why's WR deso so bad, tho, Satsui?


The hero has Max attack speed, that is 4 hits a second with agha this is 0 dmg penalty and 15 sec cd so you go for the ONLY ONE non stackable orb effect with no prock instead of monkey/mjol/deadlus or even basher or diffusual. Take your pick anything is better and BM is way better hero to take that -7 armor for building item if that is the reason for the item purchase.
People call me Jack, OMASJack
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-19 14:26:58
November 19 2015 14:25 GMT
#402
On November 19 2015 23:13 SatsuinoHado wrote:
Whenever I see WR with Deso I just hope this person loses every game he plays WR EVER in his life!


Hm. Things aren't that black and white. Deso might be always bad in a game that's sure to go late. But it can be used to hit a potent timing and further a lead or claw back into a lost game. It gives you the most burst against sturdy opponents for cost in a given time if you have no damage items already. It might be the only way to kill that pesky alchemist that's gonna push your base for the GG in a minute.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
November 19 2015 14:27 GMT
#403
3500g for an item which means your tiny, broodma, broodlings, and yourself hit buildings harder when you're trying to end a game isnt the worst
SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
November 19 2015 14:28 GMT
#404
On November 19 2015 23:25 Alpino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2015 23:13 SatsuinoHado wrote:
Whenever I see WR with Deso I just hope this person loses every game he plays WR EVER in his life!


Hm. Things aren't that black and white. Deso might be always bad in a game that's sure to go late. But it can be used to hit a potent timing and further a lead or claw back into a lost game. It gives you the most burst against sturdy opponents for cost in a given time if you have no damage items already. It might be the only way to kill that pesky alchemist that's gonna push your base for the GG in a minute.


The amount of times this is the reason is not that common as the number of deso pick ups. Can we agree that most of the people are used to some build and stick with it and never try to think on their feet ESPECIALLY china teams.
People call me Jack, OMASJack
SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
November 19 2015 14:29 GMT
#405
Point taken, even if I think it's not a Travesty to use it as a timing thing to finish up a stomp like this. No need to play super optimal for the long haul.
So zen.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
November 19 2015 14:30 GMT
#406
Why would anyone ban Lycan? He's one of the most game losing heroes in the game.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
November 19 2015 14:30 GMT
#407
On November 19 2015 23:27 ZeaL. wrote:
3500g for an item which means your tiny, broodma, broodlings, and yourself hit buildings harder when you're trying to end a game isnt the worst


As I said BM is way better hero for that especially with that early vlads. And not that he was lacking the money and he had dagger as well.
People call me Jack, OMASJack
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-19 14:34:46
November 19 2015 14:32 GMT
#408
On November 19 2015 23:30 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Why would anyone ban Lycan? He's one of the most game losing heroes in the game.


They don't want to be tempted to pick it up themselves.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
November 19 2015 14:35 GMT
#409
alright who won game 1 ?
this is a quote
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
November 19 2015 14:37 GMT
#410
On November 19 2015 23:35 goody153 wrote:
alright who won game 1 ?


no faith in ehome smh
ffxiv enjoyer
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
November 19 2015 14:37 GMT
#411
On November 19 2015 23:35 goody153 wrote:
alright who won game 1 ?


Ehome.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
November 19 2015 14:38 GMT
#412
On November 19 2015 23:30 SatsuinoHado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2015 23:27 ZeaL. wrote:
3500g for an item which means your tiny, broodma, broodlings, and yourself hit buildings harder when you're trying to end a game isnt the worst


As I said BM is way better hero for that especially with that early vlads. And not that he was lacking the money and he had dagger as well.


That's not a good argument because WR brings a different toolkit to the team. If they wanted to go all in on push they could have drafted all sorts of different heroes but they picked WR. The question is after blink and aghs what was optimal as WR's next item? Could have gone for mkb, maelstrom,bkb, etc. but I'm not seeing the downsides to getting deso given they were blowing up heroes.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
November 19 2015 14:38 GMT
#413
On November 19 2015 23:37 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2015 23:35 goody153 wrote:
alright who won game 1 ?


Ehome.

ok ty was wondering cause liquipedia didn't have the result and game 2 draft is already going on
this is a quote
SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
November 19 2015 14:38 GMT
#414
I hope soon some team gets carry storm the same way Ehome pick Lesh from time to time :S
People call me Jack, OMASJack
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
November 19 2015 14:39 GMT
#415
On November 19 2015 23:32 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2015 23:30 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Why would anyone ban Lycan? He's one of the most game losing heroes in the game.


They don't want to be tempted to pick it up themselves.

Wow. So next level.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
November 19 2015 14:43 GMT
#416
Why did Chicken chill with his invis rune under the tower and then try hiding next to it like LGD wouldn't notice him or something?

So confused.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
November 19 2015 14:43 GMT
#417
man this is a scary ember game for maybe

he's gonna have a rough time if ehome rotations and spells hit well
this is a quote
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
November 19 2015 14:44 GMT
#418
And disco pony says dance with me gyro!
SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
November 19 2015 14:45 GMT
#419
Twitch.tv, why are you bugging out on me now? You've been so good for a long time.
So zen.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
November 19 2015 14:46 GMT
#420
is this Tiny-spamming going to be the new cancer?
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