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Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
November 09 2015 18:46 GMT
#221
This casting and camerawork holy fucking shit
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
November 09 2015 18:46 GMT
#222
Next level trap xD
I think esports is pretty nice.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
November 09 2015 18:47 GMT
#223
On November 10 2015 03:42 Daray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 03:41 hunter_x wrote:
who said gg?


I just meant that this just might be a good game to watch you know :F

saved;)
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
November 09 2015 18:50 GMT
#224
Tigergolem does whatever tigergolem does.
I think esports is pretty nice.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 18:52:58
November 09 2015 18:52 GMT
#225
fuck

well to be honest those lost games were all draft loses.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
November 09 2015 18:52 GMT
#226
God, what a way to lose.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
November 09 2015 18:52 GMT
#227
and liquid crumbling again
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 18:55:17
November 09 2015 18:53 GMT
#228
Meh not quite a draft loss when you win lategame, they just choked on the highground defense. Sad to say but Mindcontrol blinking in and hanging onto his Wall really lost them the game there.
I think esports is pretty nice.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
November 09 2015 18:54 GMT
#229
So, can someone tell me why Liquid was going in 1 by 1? I don't get it. Liquid didn't need to be desperate. They could given up mid rax...
Don't mind me
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 09 2015 18:54 GMT
#230
rip likkid
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hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
November 09 2015 18:55 GMT
#231
On November 10 2015 03:54 ptbl wrote:
So, can someone tell me why Liquid was going in 1 by 1? I don't get it. Liquid didn't need to be desperate. They could given up mid rax...

hes back!
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 18:57:39
November 09 2015 18:55 GMT
#232
Also, in the second game Liquid lost to a wisp tiny. How many times have they lost to this strategy. It feels like a deja vu. Why don't they just ban it? No matter how hard they try, they always lose to this combo. They are so cocky and arrogant. Just accept that you are horrible against tiny wisp and ban it.

edit- I feel like a broken record. I feel like I am repeating what I said a couple of weeks ago. Liquid making the same mistakes over and over. No improvement.
Don't mind me
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
November 09 2015 18:57 GMT
#233
On November 10 2015 03:55 ptbl wrote:
Also, in the second game Liquid lost to a wisp tiny. How many times have they lost to this strategy. It feels like a deja vu. Why don't they just ban it? No matter how hard they try, they always lose to this combo. They are so cocky and arrogant. Just accept that you are horrible against and ban it.

they banned it game 3
then they got huskar'd
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 19:00:35
November 09 2015 18:58 GMT
#234
I'm not sold on the Darkseer. I feel Mind_control is really good at it but once it gets past the time where Ion shell owns he just becomes a walking ult no matter how farmed he is. And then you're really completely all-in on vac wall to win you the game.
I think esports is pretty nice.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
November 09 2015 18:59 GMT
#235
On November 10 2015 03:57 Verniy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 03:55 ptbl wrote:
Also, in the second game Liquid lost to a wisp tiny. How many times have they lost to this strategy. It feels like a deja vu. Why don't they just ban it? No matter how hard they try, they always lose to this combo. They are so cocky and arrogant. Just accept that you are horrible against and ban it.

they banned it game 3
then they got huskar'd


Liquid had the better late game in game three. They messed up their high ground defense by going in 1 by 1. I would say they lost due to execution and not by draft or strategy.
Don't mind me
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 19:03:44
November 09 2015 19:00 GMT
#236
On November 10 2015 03:55 ptbl wrote:
Also, in the second game Liquid lost to a wisp tiny. How many times have they lost to this strategy. It feels like a deja vu. Why don't they just ban it? No matter how hard they try, they always lose to this combo. They are so cocky and arrogant. Just accept that you are horrible against tiny wisp and ban it.

edit- I feel like a broken record. I feel like I am repeating what I said a couple of weeks ago. Liquid making the same mistakes over and over. No improvement.


They first banned it game 1 and 3, seems they were confident that they would win game 3 regardless so they used game 2 to find out whether support batrider counters Io Tiny. You have to realise that if you have to first ban Io every game that is a massive weakness, they're getting more games in vs it to figure something out.
I think esports is pretty nice.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 19:02:23
November 09 2015 19:02 GMT
#237
On November 10 2015 03:59 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 03:57 Verniy wrote:
On November 10 2015 03:55 ptbl wrote:
Also, in the second game Liquid lost to a wisp tiny. How many times have they lost to this strategy. It feels like a deja vu. Why don't they just ban it? No matter how hard they try, they always lose to this combo. They are so cocky and arrogant. Just accept that you are horrible against and ban it.

they banned it game 3
then they got huskar'd


Liquid had the better late game in game three. They messed up their high ground defense by going in 1 by 1. I would say they lost due to execution and not by draft or strategy.

well at the time they lost, it was not really super lategame. they were also a bit behind on farm. yeah they fucked up, but they also needed to buy more time to farm. the push came just at a very good time.
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
November 09 2015 19:02 GMT
#238
stats on liquid and io:
Io is picked or banned in 100% of Liquid's games
Liquid themselves pick Io in 6.7% of their games (2 times) and ban it in 66.7% of their games (20 times)
Liquid are 4-5 vs Io in the current patch, and are always on Radiant side when they play against Io
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 19:03:02
November 09 2015 19:02 GMT
#239
It's unbelieve that KuroKy drafting like this after playing years along with Puppey.

one can expect him to have deeper understanding of drafts.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
November 09 2015 19:04 GMT
#240
On November 10 2015 04:00 Saechiis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 03:55 ptbl wrote:
Also, in the second game Liquid lost to a wisp tiny. How many times have they lost to this strategy. It feels like a deja vu. Why don't they just ban it? No matter how hard they try, they always lose to this combo. They are so cocky and arrogant. Just accept that you are horrible against tiny wisp and ban it.

edit- I feel like a broken record. I feel like I am repeating what I said a couple of weeks ago. Liquid making the same mistakes over and over. No improvement.


They first banned it game 1 and 3, seems they were confident that they would win game 3 regardless so they used game 2 find out whether support batrider counters Io Tiny.


I want to Liquid to ban it every single game. I think they have lost to tiny wisp combo every game they have played in official matches except for once. Liquid is just plain bad against it. Also, they had a couple of weeks to practice and scrim against the combo, but as we can see in game two, they are as bad as ever. They haven't improved at all. So, if you can't beat it, just always ban it imo.
Don't mind me
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