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Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
August 07 2015 15:14 GMT
#101
On August 07 2015 23:10 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 22:21 TanGeng wrote:
By the way, as staff you can filter for all the Azarkon comments as the TI LR thread happens and see the changing thought process alongside results. It's hilarious.

It's hilarious in both victory and defeat. :D

If that's not a reason to be staff, I don't know what is. :D


Make a copy pasta paint document for us please.

BTW I'm surprised VG beat EHOME 2-0 D:, i thought they looked a lot more shaky overall throughout this tournament. Maybe it's just a case of 1 playstyle being an answer to the other... i dunno myself, I went to sleep when the series started so I'm just speculating.

Also: let's go EG and CDEC finals :D


VG found their footing, their game1 draft was gutsy as hell. TBH, EHOME should've won that game but Rotk didn't play his best and VG did.
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
August 07 2015 15:55 GMT
#102
On August 07 2015 15:41 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 14:17 blobrus wrote:
I'm ready for the intense anti EG circlejerk in 17 hours.

They hate us cause they ain't us

I did not know this


I always spelled it cee-dee-ee-cee but after hearing every single commentator say otherwise I decided I was wrong.
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 07 2015 15:56 GMT
#103
is it starting 1 hour late today or is the calendar accounting for that 1hour "pre-game show"?
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 16:08:37
August 07 2015 16:06 GMT
#104
On August 08 2015 00:56 Sif_ wrote:
is it starting 1 hour late today or is the calendar accounting for that 1hour "pre-game show"?


I'm pretty sure that it is starting later. We only have 3 Bo3's today, so the schedule is later for the players. There's always going to be pre-game shows before the matches, so just expect it!

(Also this is the same time as yesterday)

+Lets go VG vs EG finals. ;D
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 07 2015 16:08 GMT
#105
On August 08 2015 00:56 Sif_ wrote:
is it starting 1 hour late today or is the calendar accounting for that 1hour "pre-game show"?

broadcast is still at 10 but games usually start at 11 anyway
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 07 2015 16:11 GMT
#106
thanks!
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 16:16:35
August 07 2015 16:15 GMT
#107
I am 99% sure that West, and especially Americans, are going to win this tournament now that Secret is out.

In case they don't, I'll never talk shit about Chinese Dota again.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
August 07 2015 16:20 GMT
#108
On August 08 2015 01:15 Azarkon wrote:
I am 99% sure that West, and especially Americans, are going to win this tournament now that Secret is out.

In case they don't, I'll never talk shit about Chinese Dota again.

now it's getting serious
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
August 07 2015 16:21 GMT
#109
I'm a belieVPer

maybe they can do it without even picking Silencer
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
August 07 2015 16:22 GMT
#110
On August 08 2015 01:15 Azarkon wrote:
I am 99% sure that West, and especially Americans, are going to win this tournament now that Secret is out.

In case they don't, I'll never talk shit about Chinese Dota again.




Holy fucking shit.


Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
August 07 2015 16:24 GMT
#111
On August 08 2015 01:15 Azarkon wrote:
I am 99% sure that West, and especially Americans, are going to win this tournament now that Secret is out.

In case they don't, I'll never talk shit about Chinese Dota again.

At this point you shouldn't really. Your idea that there is some fundamental problem with Dota in China that is exclusive to them is already desestimated from everything that happened since TI3, no matter what the results of this one particular tournament are.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 07 2015 16:24 GMT
#112
alright azarkon i'll hold you to it
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 16:39:50
August 07 2015 16:24 GMT
#113
VG has been improving throughout the main event, but I don't think yesterday's performance will be enough if LGD actually shows up today.

Ehome... They were so so close. Ehome was the most strategically calm team in the tournament. They never fell apart. They always had a clear idea of where they were at in the game and how they were going to play the next minutes. They were always on the same page in fights. They were limited maybe (and that cost them the series vs EG), but that narrowness can also be an advantage at times (you don't turn into ti4 dk for one... ).

In the end, I think it came down to individual weaknesses. Cty, while really good, did not perform up to the level of the other top youngsters (sumail, maybe, shiky), especially when it comes to laning. Zyf almost always got less out of his lane than you'd expect from a top carry (partly because Ehome babysat him very little, but still). rOtK had his moments, but he was a burden in several games including almost the entire VG series. And their very defined style and hero preferences made it basically impossible for them to get outdrafts in the main event (except against Secret of course, but Secret were arrogant fucks coming into that series).
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 07 2015 16:28 GMT
#114
On August 08 2015 01:24 opterown wrote:
alright azarkon i'll hold you to it

So it begins
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 07 2015 16:29 GMT
#115
I love azarkon. I mean I was hammered last night and still making more sense in here i think what a man
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
August 07 2015 16:29 GMT
#116
how can you even shit talk china with all the great games we've seen this ti from not just the old guard but the young blood?
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 07 2015 16:33 GMT
#117
On August 07 2015 18:24 blobrus wrote:
The finals last year were pretty much universally agreed on as being awful. I don't think it's a western bias at all, if Na'vi and Alliance played those exact same games everyone still would have hated them.

If the finals are bad in any way you can guarantee there's going to be a reddit thread about it, they complain about everything. Threads complaining about some minor thing valve hasn't fixed hit front page, do you really think they won't criticize a bad finals just because it's a western team?

Yes, on reddit. Stop thinking you're the center of the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 16:37:05
August 07 2015 16:34 GMT
#118
On August 07 2015 21:33 Shergal wrote:
EG are overwhelming favorites at this point. They haven't played the best Dota in the event, but to them that's irrelevant. They will just outdraft the opposition and bore them out of the game like they always do. I don't really see any of the remaining teams beating them unless ppd chokes.


PPD's pick strategy, especially against Chinese teams, is simple:

Ban: Leshrac, Gyrocopter
Pick: Techies/Naga/Bounty

It works because no Chinese team wants to play two out of those three heroes. As such, PPD is able to get what he wants every time. And he isn't afraid of other teams getting bounty, because he knows how to play against it.

PPD wins simply because he and his players know both what to pick and how to play it. Had other teams known how to play these heroes, there'd be no issue, but they don't.
aboxcar
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States447 Posts
August 07 2015 16:37 GMT
#119
On August 08 2015 00:55 Ufnal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 15:41 plasmidghost wrote:
On August 07 2015 14:17 blobrus wrote:
I'm ready for the intense anti EG circlejerk in 17 hours.

They hate us cause they ain't us
https://twitter.com/ViCi_Gaming/status/629114199898214400
I did not know this


I always spelled it cee-dee-ee-cee but after hearing every single commentator say otherwise I decided I was wrong.

C D E C isn't nearly as chant-able as c-dec though
everything that rises must converge
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 07 2015 16:38 GMT
#120
On August 08 2015 01:34 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 21:33 Shergal wrote:
EG are overwhelming favorites at this point. They haven't played the best Dota in the event, but to them that's irrelevant. They will just outdraft the opposition and bore them out of the game like they always do. I don't really see any of the remaining teams beating them unless ppd chokes.


PPD's pick strategy, especially against Chinese teams, is simple:

Ban: Leshrac, Gyrocopter
Pick: Techies/Naga/Bounty

It works because no Chinese team wants to play two out of those three heroes. As such, PPD is able to get what he wants every time. And he isn't afraid of other teams getting bounty, because he knows how to play against it.

PPD wins simply because he and his players know both what to pick and how to play it. Had other teams known how to play these heroes, there'd be no issue, but they don't.

Man a few weeks ago this guy couldn't stop jizzing over secret and now he's ppds biggest fan lmao
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