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Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
August 04 2015 19:39 GMT
#1401
are the frenchies singing again on stream?
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
August 04 2015 19:39 GMT
#1402
will game 1 finish before the second series is supposed to start?
OzVelas
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria516 Posts
August 04 2015 19:39 GMT
#1403
valve lmao how can u take them srly..
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
August 04 2015 19:40 GMT
#1404
On August 05 2015 04:39 overt wrote:
Instead of having the analyst desk can they play the Secret and eHome videos now so we can go straight into the next series after this one ends?

they still need their time to set up
FTD
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 19:40 GMT
#1405
But honestly, goddamn, technical issues at this TI are annoying.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
August 04 2015 19:40 GMT
#1406
why aren't they playing national hymns on the french stream
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 04 2015 19:40 GMT
#1407
On August 05 2015 04:34 zzdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:28 Logo wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:25 zzdd wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:24 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:23 zzdd wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:22 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:20 IshinShishi wrote:
the legitimacy of this game went to shit, I doubt they stopped teams from discussing during the pauses which definetely favors the losing team to regain composure.


they specifically mentioned the captains are allowed to talk on the panel (though Redeye may have been blowing smoke)

it's bullshit imo, they should do the LoL route and forbid talking during tech pauses

Why shouldn't they? Both teams are discussing the game and can plan a strategy to close the game or comeback.


Because it's stupid for technical problems to potentially give an advantage to one team over another and promotes tactical pausing.

I hate it in every single game where it could possibly have an impact.

What advantage? Both teams can talk.


But both teams aren't in equal position. A big part of DotA is knowing where you actually stand in the game.

So like in this case EG may not exactly understand where they are standing in terms of how much they can contest CoL and how much they can push back. CoL in the driver's seat either has a better idea of this, or it's less relevant.

The pause gives EG more time to figure this out and figure things like "I don't think they can stop an AM split push right now even without AM being fully online". CoL has less to gain from figuring things out.

That has more to do with the game than the pause. The pause is just the time where everyone knows they are thinking. In game, they are doing to same thing. The only difference is that they have more time to make a decision.

If a team calls a pause in sports, no one complains about the other team getting time to think. If there are technical issues, they don't force the teammates to not talk to each other. The better team will use their time to their advantage but there isn't an inherit advantage to pausing.

There's an advantage for the team using the more solid strategy, strategies that crumble after you "figure them out" definitely suffer more.Obviously you can't prevent a person from thinking, but at the very least the players shouldn't be allowed to discuss with each other, their team decisions should only be made during the game.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
August 04 2015 19:40 GMT
#1408
On August 05 2015 04:37 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:34 Gorsameth wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:32 Orome wrote:
So... For the people who know something about this stuff: Is LAN mode plus dotatv fundamentally impossible? Or would there be a way to make it work for major events?

Run a local server.
If the line to the outside gives out DotaTV would fail but the players would suffer no effect.

Riot actually runs local servers for their Tournaments after they suffered from these issues as well.

Supposedly for some weird reason this isn't possible in source 1


hopefully Source 2 will fix this?

right? god I don't give a damn about anything else about Source 2 I just want uninterrupted competitive matches
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 19:40:47
August 04 2015 19:40 GMT
#1409
aww pod 2 has 3 staff talking and joking around, but pod 1 is a guy that's lonely
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 04 2015 19:41 GMT
#1410
this is just disgusting as hell , thanks Valve for LAN !!!
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
August 04 2015 19:41 GMT
#1411
On August 05 2015 04:37 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:34 zzdd wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:28 Logo wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:25 zzdd wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:24 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:23 zzdd wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:22 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:20 IshinShishi wrote:
the legitimacy of this game went to shit, I doubt they stopped teams from discussing during the pauses which definetely favors the losing team to regain composure.


they specifically mentioned the captains are allowed to talk on the panel (though Redeye may have been blowing smoke)

it's bullshit imo, they should do the LoL route and forbid talking during tech pauses

Why shouldn't they? Both teams are discussing the game and can plan a strategy to close the game or comeback.


Because it's stupid for technical problems to potentially give an advantage to one team over another and promotes tactical pausing.

I hate it in every single game where it could possibly have an impact.

What advantage? Both teams can talk.


But both teams aren't in equal position. A big part of DotA is knowing where you actually stand in the game.

So like in this case EG may not exactly understand where they are standing in terms of how much they can contest CoL and how much they can push back. CoL in the driver's seat either has a better idea of this, or it's less relevant.

The pause gives EG more time to figure this out and figure things like "I don't think they can stop an AM split push right now even without AM being fully online". CoL has less to gain from figuring things out.

That has more to do with the game than the pause. The pause is just the time where everyone knows they are thinking. In game, they are doing to same thing. The only difference is that they have more time to make a decision.

If a team calls a pause in sports, no one complains about the other team getting time to think. If there are technical issues, they don't force the teammates to not talk to each other. The better team will use their time to their advantage but there isn't an inherit advantage to pausing.

As much as you say that, tactical pauses are used in American football. Some folks did a study, and calling a time out before the other team makes a critical field goal attempt unnerves the opposing kicker and lowers success rate. Sure, it works in the opposite way, but choosing to take extra time at the right time can seriously mess with how a game goes.

I thought statistics had shown the opposite about "icing the kicker"? In any case I know kickers have expressed actually appreciating the time out.

Anyway Dota has a very soccer-like pace in general. If it were more like American football you'd have ten seconds of teamfight followed by forty seconds of pause.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Skillver
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria1309 Posts
August 04 2015 19:41 GMT
#1412
Thank god that it is not getting late in Europe...I was just looking forward throughout the game to watch some good dota in the evening
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 04 2015 19:41 GMT
#1413
On August 05 2015 04:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:38 absinthfee wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:37 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:36 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:34 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:34 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:16 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:15 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:13 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:12 goody153 wrote:


even LD actually knows that need instant disables not octarine

Clinkz goes Medallion for Roshing, coL does hardly anything with Rosh. Orchid would have been preferable to control Fear instead.


? orchid is useless against AM. Manta style bro

26:30 seconds was manta timing, 23:30 would be without vlads. Plenty of time to do shit.


and then you have an orchid and two less rosh kills. Not worth it at all IMO.

They still get first roshan without medallion. And can actually limit Fear's space heavily (and well, everyone else on EG).


maybe? It would have required the whole team and would have been blatantly obvious. Could have easily backfired against a team like EG's with a naga + SK. You should know this already.

It would require like 20 more seconds or even same amount of time with chen walking in himself.


20 secs is a lot of time for the other team to make a move.

Only if they prepare for that. EG did not look like they cared whatsoever.


Whatever you say bro. Keep making that case for orchid clinkz lulz
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 19:42:10
August 04 2015 19:42 GMT
#1414
On August 05 2015 04:41 bluzi wrote:
this is just disgusting as hell , thanks Valve for LAN !!!


god can you stop the constant whining on every page


holy shit
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 19:43:14
August 04 2015 19:42 GMT
#1415
On August 05 2015 04:40 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:37 Nevuk wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:34 Gorsameth wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:32 Orome wrote:
So... For the people who know something about this stuff: Is LAN mode plus dotatv fundamentally impossible? Or would there be a way to make it work for major events?

Run a local server.
If the line to the outside gives out DotaTV would fail but the players would suffer no effect.

Riot actually runs local servers for their Tournaments after they suffered from these issues as well.

Supposedly for some weird reason this isn't possible in source 1


hopefully Source 2 will fix this?

right? god I don't give a damn about anything else about Source 2 I just want uninterrupted competitive matches

source 2 won't magically give everyone better internet
unfortunately

e: Also why the hell does the dota2.com stream default to 1080p? My interwebs can't handle that shit.
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
August 04 2015 19:42 GMT
#1416
On August 05 2015 04:41 Skillver wrote:
Thank god that it is not getting late in Europe...I was just looking forward throughout the game to watch some good dota in the evening

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dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 04 2015 19:42 GMT
#1417
On August 05 2015 04:40 lolfail9001 wrote:
But honestly, goddamn, technical issues at this TI are annoying.


this we can agree on. This is a fucking embarrassment.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 04 2015 19:42 GMT
#1418
whats really annoying is the unknown factor of those downtimes , its not like restarting a router....
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21687 Posts
August 04 2015 19:42 GMT
#1419
On August 05 2015 04:40 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:37 Nevuk wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:34 Gorsameth wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:32 Orome wrote:
So... For the people who know something about this stuff: Is LAN mode plus dotatv fundamentally impossible? Or would there be a way to make it work for major events?

Run a local server.
If the line to the outside gives out DotaTV would fail but the players would suffer no effect.

Riot actually runs local servers for their Tournaments after they suffered from these issues as well.

Supposedly for some weird reason this isn't possible in source 1


hopefully Source 2 will fix this?

right? god I don't give a damn about anything else about Source 2 I just want uninterrupted competitive matches

The dumb thing is that their main competitor had this exact same issue several years ago. They should have picked up on it and been ready for it.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 04 2015 19:42 GMT
#1420
On August 05 2015 04:41 bluzi wrote:
this is just disgusting as hell , thanks Valve for LAN !!!

They have LAN but then Dota TV doesn't work.
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