EPTOn June 04 2015 14:01 rabidch wrote:
6.84 killed iG for good. rip for another year burning's dream
6.84 killed iG for good. rip for another year burning's dream
patch>burning for real
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
patch>burning for real | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
retire after ti5 > unretire to form burning boys > 6.91 before ti6 > retire after ti6 > repeat | ||
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Kamisamanachi
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
idk maybe i have terrible taste | ||
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CxWiLL
China830 Posts
What can you expect when you have Chuan as captain. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On June 04 2015 14:11 Stancel wrote: retire after ti5 > unretire to form burning boys > 6.91 before ti6 > retire after ti6 > repeat these retire jokes are getting just as old as fear...u would have done the same thing in his place if there was a large prize pool at a big tournament u can play in.. | ||
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Thetwinmasters
3578 Posts
On June 04 2015 14:12 CxWiLL wrote: What can you expect when you have Chuan as captain. chuan has never been a captain | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
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Fire Turtles
527 Posts
Perhaps some unusual carry that isn't often played, because all said, I don't have much faith in BurNIng Bristle, or Drow, or Lesh or whatever they give him recently Maybe go back to something older, his Gyro is good, try to work out some way to run a pos 1 Alch, maybe do the KOTL+Naga yourself or KOTL+PL Or go back to the absolute classics and give him AM when the enemy picks Leshrac for that gamewinning rampage Mana Void | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On June 04 2015 14:16 Fire Turtles wrote: I think they definitely need to figure out something that works for them Perhaps some unusual carry that isn't often played, because all said, I don't have much faith in BurNIng Bristle, or Drow, or Lesh or whatever they give him recently Maybe go back to something older, his Gyro is good, try to work out some way to run a pos 1 Alch, maybe do the KOTL+Naga yourself or KOTL+PL Or go back to the absolute classics and give him AM when the enemy picks Leshrac for that gamewinning rampage Mana Void the thing is that i saw burning playing leshrac few days ago and he was good ,his drow is good ..ig ran a lot of drow visage in 6.83 and they were doing good..i can agree with him underperforming on these heroes since new patch,butlarge amount of his failure comes from faith's cocky drafting..there is no innovation or new sense in his drafting...it's like ig stop thinking in the draft stage and then watch random pub match to pick 5 heroes...their internal execution of the gameplan seems pretty lackluster as compared to most of the polished teams. | ||
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CxWiLL
China830 Posts
On June 04 2015 14:12 Kamisamanachi wrote: ig has some serious issue with drafting and combined that with horrible in game strategy is making all of their players look bad..all of them are capable of playing any opponents,but their gameplay as a team seems lackluster..i dunno why in the world u dont consider banning kotl when he basically walked over you in first game and is the best anti push hero in this patch ..going for aggro lane with viper and still he farms diffusal at regular time ..people blaming burning but i somehow forgot that there was a lesh in that game...this lesh felt soo lackluster..for me,its the entire freaking team which is underperforming and not just 1 player..it feels good when people say ferrari+4,but ferrari ain't having that much impact on ig's gameplan since redbull tournament(aka 6.84) ..i hope they can change their drafting style..faith is drafting pretty cocky and taking this team down at drafting stage.maybe give drafting to luo for some time as his drafts were stable for most of the time. They play like pubs. I feel the team is seriously lacking on strategy design before the games. Without Zhou and YYF by his side, Faith is not that a good drafter, they just picked the good heroes and tried to counter pick the opponent. Their games depend heavily on personal skill to win from the laning phase. When is the last time you see IG pull out something new? | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On June 04 2015 14:20 CxWiLL wrote: They play like pubs. I feel the team is seriously lacking on strategy design before the games. Without Zhou and YYF by his side, Faith is not that a good drafter, they just picked the good heroes and tried to counter pick the opponent. Their games depend heavily on personal skill to win from the laning phase. When is the last time you see IG pull out something new? this is what i said in my last post...i never saw any innovation from faith in his draft like other teams do..hell even alchemist pick could have been great hero for burning in these drafts..i am not blaming him only,but if your team is losing the game in drafting stage just because u cant use innovations in your drafts ,u have some serious problems.IG needs to seriously stop copy pasting strats and start finding their own..i ain't finding any sense in their strats instead of them picking same shit over and over and losing with it since new patch..it's like redbull stopped faith's head from working. | ||
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Thetwinmasters
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
burning drafts some uniq shit sometimes | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On June 04 2015 14:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: i just wanna see burning tell faith to fuck off and start drafting himself burning drafts some uniq shit sometimes or even luo..people praised luo's drafting even when ig was in a slump..his gameplay was not that great ,but his drafts were solid | ||
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Fire Turtles
527 Posts
I guess you'd still need a pipe tho | ||
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CxWiLL
China830 Posts
On June 04 2015 14:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: i just wanna see burning tell faith to fuck off and start drafting himself burning drafts some uniq shit sometimes I don't think faith is the one to blame on this and burning drafting won't change much. It's some problem with the whole team, they didn't spend enough effort to study their opponents. Just look at their warding and dewarding in this 2 games, such a disaster. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On June 04 2015 14:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: i just wanna see burning tell faith to fuck off and start drafting himself burning drafts some uniq shit sometimes And then when shit matters, he drafts conservatively again. #rememberingDK2014 | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On June 04 2015 14:31 Fire Turtles wrote: Maybe they could try a 430 Tinker to counter the KOTL rat and try a sort of '5-man-push-with-Tinker' where they run in and hit towers and Tinker deals with the other lanes I guess you'd still need a pipe tho i think you're thinking too much in terms of countering one playstyle and not enough in terms of just having solid drafts of their own in the first place i've heard ig likes to stream pubs together... maybe they've gone too pubstyle and need to learn to deal with actual pro dota again | ||
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