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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 30 2015 16:39 GMT
#1601
On January 31 2015 01:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think 4-11 is favoured to make top 12 the way the games are being distributed here so its hard to call doom and gloom yet for any team whatsoever.

6 would probably be safe
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 30 2015 16:40 GMT
#1602
On January 31 2015 01:39 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 01:33 opterown wrote:
On January 31 2015 01:30 goody153 wrote:
On January 31 2015 01:27 opterown wrote:
On January 31 2015 01:19 Kipsate wrote:
Losing your captain, drafter and arguably most experienced member ?

it matters.

no don't overestimate the importance of xiao8 it's not like tongfu were doing poorly without him and newbee didn't have much issue winning a lot of stuff after xiao8 left. it's just that they need to be kept in line and stay practicing

i don't follow newbee too much but what do you winning a lot of stuff outside ECL and WCA ? since i'm looking at their wikipedia page right now

they also won NESO and IeSF

I didn't include IeSF since the teams on the tournament is not even a match at all. It's just like some top team winning a qualifier with no real competition.

uhm they didn't win NESO .. they are 3rd placer according here

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/National_Electronic_Sports_Tournament_2014

so their most impressive would be ECL after TI4? since WCA the real competition is only C9 and VG was weak at that time.

wrong NESO it pains me to link gg instead of lp but lp doesn't have it

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/tournaments/5347-national-electronic-sports-open/bracket
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 30 2015 16:40 GMT
#1603
On January 31 2015 01:39 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 01:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think 4-11 is favoured to make top 12 the way the games are being distributed here so its hard to call doom and gloom yet for any team whatsoever.

6 would probably be safe

NB better start winning then.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22210 Posts
January 30 2015 16:40 GMT
#1604
On January 31 2015 01:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 01:33 ahswtini wrote:
point being, how many people here actually explicitly knew that psi blades were pure damage? I didn't, I just knew they ignored armour

Anyone who ever read tool tip on this spell.

have you read and memorised the damage type of every spell?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
January 30 2015 16:40 GMT
#1605
whether it's xiao8 or their coach, newbee needs someone to yell at them a lot
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
MetalMercury
Profile Joined January 2015
United States1161 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-30 16:42:01
January 30 2015 16:40 GMT
#1606
On January 31 2015 01:28 goody153 wrote:
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On January 31 2015 01:21 MetalMercury wrote:
Rave is actually pretty legit; they've gone through the Chinese teams and EG and emerged on the other side with a 4-3 record, and they threw that game against VG gaming. Given how everyone else has looked so far in this tournament, you could say they're definitely top 8 bound and they're playing like they have a shot at top 4.

top 8 sure .. top 4 idk that's a bit too much .. at least 3-4 teams are more solid than them


I'd say really only 3 teams right now look better than Rave: EG, Secret, and VG. You could maybe say that LGD and EHome would be toss ups with them, but all you need to make top 4 the way things are going is a toss up going your way.

To be in the top four you only need to have 3 or 4 teams better than you there anyway
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34499 Posts
January 30 2015 16:41 GMT
#1607
I knew psi blades was pure ~
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
January 30 2015 16:41 GMT
#1608
Goblak Chen is no puppey
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 30 2015 16:42 GMT
#1609
On January 31 2015 01:40 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 01:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 31 2015 01:33 ahswtini wrote:
point being, how many people here actually explicitly knew that psi blades were pure damage? I didn't, I just knew they ignored armour

Anyone who ever read tool tip on this spell.

have you read and memorised the damage type of every spell?

Dare i say yes?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34499 Posts
January 30 2015 16:42 GMT
#1610
I guess I knew after I came across the bug in Dota 1 where you could cleave dagons and shit if you used it at the same time your attack projectile hit the target.
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
January 30 2015 16:42 GMT
#1611
On January 31 2015 01:41 Firebolt145 wrote:
I knew psi blades was pure ~

I knew that too, but I didn't know that they go through Ghost Scepter.

I also didn't know that they can kill couriers if it is behind the target you are attacking, I saw that in one tournament game few weeks ago.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22210 Posts
January 30 2015 16:42 GMT
#1612
On January 31 2015 01:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 01:40 ahswtini wrote:
On January 31 2015 01:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 31 2015 01:33 ahswtini wrote:
point being, how many people here actually explicitly knew that psi blades were pure damage? I didn't, I just knew they ignored armour

Anyone who ever read tool tip on this spell.

have you read and memorised the damage type of every spell?

Dare i say yes?

well too bad there's no way I can disprove it
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2015 16:42 GMT
#1613
On January 31 2015 01:39 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 01:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think 4-11 is favoured to make top 12 the way the games are being distributed here so its hard to call doom and gloom yet for any team whatsoever.

6 would probably be safe

6 would certainly be safe
my point more being that even if ur 0-11 going into the last day u can win 4 and have a reasonable chance of still being in the tournament. And even NB have picked up 1 win so 5-10 is near guaranteed advance, they can lose every game tomorrow and still advance lol.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 30 2015 16:43 GMT
#1614
On January 31 2015 01:40 MetalMercury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 01:28 goody153 wrote:
On January 31 2015 01:21 MetalMercury wrote:
Rave is actually pretty legit; they've gone through the Chinese teams and EG and emerged on the other side with a 4-3 record, and they threw that game against VG gaming. Given how everyone else has looked so far in this tournament, you could say they're definitely top 8 bound and they're playing like they have a shot at top 4.

top 8 sure .. top 4 idk that's a bit too much .. at least 3-4 teams are more solid than them


I'd say really only 3 teams right now look better than Rave: EG, Secret, and VG. You could maybe say that LGD and EHome would be toss ups with them, but all you need to make top 4 the way things are going is a toss up going your way.

To be in the top four you only need to have 3 or 4 teams better than you there anyway

It's still Bo1s. They'll come out of groups 3-4, but teams that did well in groups can easily flop in bracket stage because series play is still very different from Bo1

Like, people forget how different Bo1s are from series play even though it's not exactly uncommon to see strong series teams flop in groupstage or vice versa.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 30 2015 16:44 GMT
#1615
On January 31 2015 01:42 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 01:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 31 2015 01:40 ahswtini wrote:
On January 31 2015 01:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 31 2015 01:33 ahswtini wrote:
point being, how many people here actually explicitly knew that psi blades were pure damage? I didn't, I just knew they ignored armour

Anyone who ever read tool tip on this spell.

have you read and memorised the damage type of every spell?

Dare i say yes?

well too bad there's no way I can disprove it

Well, you can, but that would rely on my honesty, and since i am not losing money on that, i ain't got reasons not to be honest.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-30 16:45:28
January 30 2015 16:44 GMT
#1616
On January 31 2015 01:42 ahswtini wrote:
well too bad there's no way I can disprove it

I don't see why it's so weird to know the damage types of every spell, lol.

Honestly, in fairness to Synd, he probably knows them all too, he just didn't have a chance to think it through in the spur of the moment. Like, he's clearly demonstrated before that he knows DotA 1's damage types thoroughly (and the changes to DotA 2).
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 30 2015 16:45 GMT
#1617
On January 31 2015 01:40 MetalMercury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 01:28 goody153 wrote:
On January 31 2015 01:21 MetalMercury wrote:
Rave is actually pretty legit; they've gone through the Chinese teams and EG and emerged on the other side with a 4-3 record, and they threw that game against VG gaming. Given how everyone else has looked so far in this tournament, you could say they're definitely top 8 bound and they're playing like they have a shot at top 4.

top 8 sure .. top 4 idk that's a bit too much .. at least 3-4 teams are more solid than them


I'd say really only 3 teams right now look better than Rave: EG, Secret, and VG. You could maybe say that LGD and EHome would be toss ups with them, but all you need to make top 4 the way things are going is a toss up going your way.

To be in the top four you only need to have 3 or 4 teams better than you there anyway

I think Rave's score is inflated. They already played TongFu, MVP and Newbee, the 3 bottom teams. Meanwhile Na'Vi for example hasn't played neither of those.
super gg
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
January 30 2015 16:46 GMT
#1618
On January 31 2015 01:45 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 01:40 MetalMercury wrote:
On January 31 2015 01:28 goody153 wrote:
On January 31 2015 01:21 MetalMercury wrote:
Rave is actually pretty legit; they've gone through the Chinese teams and EG and emerged on the other side with a 4-3 record, and they threw that game against VG gaming. Given how everyone else has looked so far in this tournament, you could say they're definitely top 8 bound and they're playing like they have a shot at top 4.

top 8 sure .. top 4 idk that's a bit too much .. at least 3-4 teams are more solid than them


I'd say really only 3 teams right now look better than Rave: EG, Secret, and VG. You could maybe say that LGD and EHome would be toss ups with them, but all you need to make top 4 the way things are going is a toss up going your way.

To be in the top four you only need to have 3 or 4 teams better than you there anyway

I think Rave's score is inflated. They already played TongFu, MVP and Newbee, the 3 bottom teams. Meanwhile Na'Vi for example hasn't played neither of those.

NaVi US day 1 TI4 never forget
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 30 2015 16:46 GMT
#1619
Can I report Yango for derailing the thread with mechanics nerdtalk?
super gg
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
January 30 2015 16:47 GMT
#1620
lol
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