EPTOn January 30 2015 16:40 V1ctor wrote:
meanwhile EG is dominating IG
meanwhile EG is dominating IG
Man what a surprise !
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beifru
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Man what a surprise ! | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On January 30 2015 16:39 TheYango wrote: I think it was inevitable with the coming retirements, but it was also an opportunity for China to develop a lot of new talent with newer players on star rosters. Unfortunately, Chinese organizations seem to prefer placing their bets on second-tier veterans rather than on up-and-coming players. Indeed, I've long observed that. | ||
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drew-chan
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Dysisa
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cravin74
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On January 30 2015 16:37 ViZe wrote: isnt ti in august? isnt it like...early to be deciding these things lol Valve has rather vague criteria for inviting teams for TI. It seems they value consistent performance and roster stability so teams will want to lockdown a team for a TI push around now. I feel that if one of the more successful teams of the last six months takes DAC they are pretty much guaranteed an invite. | ||
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Kirsed
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
That's why I was saying it's possible for China to get the right players together to have a real team. Right now, the veterans and the talented new players both exist--the teams just have to get smart and put them together. | ||
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cravin74
Malaysia1088 Posts
Hasn't there also been an absence of large tournaments in China? So far a lot of chinese dota has involved qualifiers for western LANs. | ||
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Morbidius
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On January 30 2015 16:43 TheYango wrote: That's why I was saying it's possible for China to get the right players together to have a real team. Right now, the veterans and the talented new players both exist--the teams just have to get smart and put them together. Who would you say are the talented new players that deserve to be on t1 teams? Who are the veterans that don't deserve to be on them but are? | ||
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ncsix
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beifru
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On January 30 2015 16:44 cravin74 wrote: Hasn't there also been an absence of large tournaments in China? So far a lot of chinese dota has involved qualifiers for western LANs. Yep, alot of the pros were streaming or playing MMORPGs. The Chinese dota scene only usually livens up after Chinese New Year. But since DAC came right before Chinese New Year dangling a large amount of money, Chinese teams that wanted to disband or swap players decided to hold out for awhile longer till DAC is over. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On January 30 2015 16:44 cravin74 wrote: Hasn't there also been an absence of large tournaments in China? So far a lot of chinese dota has involved qualifiers for western LANs. WEC and WCA. Plus a few China-only tournaments. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On January 30 2015 16:44 cravin74 wrote: Hasn't there also been an absence of large tournaments in China? So far a lot of chinese dota has involved qualifiers for western LANs. No, that wasn't a problem. After TI 4, there was WEC, WCA, I-League, G-League, NEST, and I think one other. Then there were the Western qualifiers, the insane DAC qualifiers, and an amateur league too. The issue was... Newbee, VG, and LGD basically crushed every team in those Chinese tourneys, showing that the gap between even a Newbee that isn't practicing and second-tier teams was immense. It's one cause for why Chinese teams don't want to recruit second-tier new players - because they figure those guys never win in the first place. But they're wrong in the same way thinking Sumail is bad because Sumail has never won a tournament before is wrong. | ||
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Nashi
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
On January 30 2015 16:48 Azarkon wrote: No, that wasn't a problem. After TI 4, there was WEC, WCA, I-League, G-League, NEST, and I think one other. Then there were the Western qualifiers, the insane DAC qualifiers, and an amateur league too. The issue was... Newbee and LGD basically crushed every team in those Chinese tourneys, showing that the gap between even a Newbee that isn't practicing and second-tier teams was immense. It's one cause for why Chinese teams don't want to recruit second-tier new players - because they figure those guys never win in the first place. But they're wrong in the same way thinking Sumail is bad because Sumail has never won a tournament before is wrong. o shit | ||
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gDPhantom
New Zealand162 Posts
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Unattended Cake
United States877 Posts
EDIT: TongFu vs MVP. Assuming there's a Jugg every friggin' game. | ||
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ymir233
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