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On October 10 2014 10:39 Kuroeeah wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:38 Seraphic wrote:On October 10 2014 10:37 Kipsate wrote: H4nn1 played Invoker quite a bit. Oh, I hardly ever follow Fnatic games so... Why state "I don't remember I'm playing Invoker" than follow it up with "Well I don't even watch Fnatic games anyway" the mans confused. hes been trying to make loda out to be a top tier carry
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you guys this was clearly a draft loss, alliance's lineup is trash and eg's actually has some coherence
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i feel so bad for c9/sna. they're either gonna play till 12 or have to play tomorrow.
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On October 10 2014 10:42 wuhan_clan wrote: Hanni's Invoker is good for Hanni (because he plays so many heroes poorly). Hanni's Invoker also seems better than it is because Invoker hasn't been a common pick in years. Compared with actually good Invoker players, Hanni still doesn't compare. The guy is Mr. Mediocre. ya invoker hasn't been picked for years
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On October 10 2014 10:42 wuhan_clan wrote: Hanni's Invoker is good for Hanni (because he plays so many heroes poorly). Hanni's Invoker also seems better than it is because Invoker hasn't been a common pick in years. Compared with actually good Invoker players, Hanni still doesn't compare. The guy is Mr. Mediocre.
I don't think Voker pick would have mattered that greatly in this game if everything has gone the same way. Just instead of Gyro being an natural MKB holder, they have Voker in his place.
They both take awhile to come up, with some decent magic nukes at the start. If everything has gone the same way, Voker being in place of Gyro probably wouldn't have mattered too greatly anyway.
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Arteezy used to be like Dendi in a sense, when he rose to prominence Dendi was one of the best mid players in the world if not the best, he did crazy shit and everyone was like oppa oppa Dendi. Then other people caught up and nowaydays Dendi is mediocre. Arteezy to prominence and everyone was like 2ez4tzy. Nowaydays its Universe, Zai and PPd who do the shit.
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On October 10 2014 10:42 beifru wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:39 blobrus wrote:On October 10 2014 10:37 beifru wrote:On October 10 2014 10:35 blobrus wrote:On October 10 2014 10:33 shizaep wrote:On October 10 2014 10:32 FHDH wrote:On October 10 2014 10:31 TheTenthDoc wrote:On October 10 2014 10:29 Nymzee wrote: who said game 3 would be a 15 minute stomp?
you cursed us all Nonono, you have been saved from another 70 minutes of debating who's better RTZ or Loda. I only regret that I didn't say 20 minute. Was anyone actually arguing that Loda was better than Arteezy? Arteezy is literally the exact opposite of Universe. Honestly arteezy gets so much shit he's actually kinda underrated whereas Universe is given so much praise. Wouldn't say Unis overrated but in a sense what you said is kinda true, just probably not what you meant. No. Both rtz and Universe (he used to be underrated but is not now) are overrated currently. Its ppd that is underrated in EG. Pretty sure without him, EG would be a middle rank Tier 1 team. Pretty sure you could say EG would be an average t1 team if you swapped out any of their players so I'm not sure what you're trying to say. All the players are important. Mason disagrees. EG with fear is infinitely more versatile and scary than EG with Mason.
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On October 10 2014 10:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:35 Kabras wrote:On October 10 2014 10:33 Zea! wrote: that gyro pick was just stupid and no sense (as vengeful) gyro's really good vs pa cuz he's a natural mkb buyer and he can nuke her down with rocket barrage. pa also can't jump him for the same reason. the pick was good, the play wasn't. Gyro as the last pick in this particular draft was terrible. Invoker would have been so much better and allowed Alliance to fight all around the map. Gyro pick was super fine and Kabras explained why. You sjust throw out "facts" with no reasoning behind.
Pick WAS good, execution not so much.
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On October 10 2014 10:44 zev318 wrote: i feel so bad for c9/sna. they're either gonna play till 12 or have to play tomorrow.
ehh they only need to play 1 series right? It's not like how Na'Vi played like 3 series in a row
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On October 10 2014 10:45 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:44 zev318 wrote: i feel so bad for c9/sna. they're either gonna play till 12 or have to play tomorrow. ehh they only need to play 1 series right? It's not like how Na'Vi played like 3 series in a row
well if they make them play tomorrow, that would be 3 series. not quite in a row, but it'll be a hell of a long day.
im not sure if MSG has a time limit like most places or not.
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maybe stop bashing the picks and start bashing bulldog for playing for the wrong alex garfield team al series??
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On October 10 2014 10:43 WolfintheSheep wrote:That's how it's actually pronounced, you know. Obviously he has a terrible accent, but the "ce" isn't silent. yea i think i know how it is pronounced, i just like the accent 
coup de gras would be funny though :D
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On October 10 2014 10:44 Kreb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 10 2014 10:35 Kabras wrote:On October 10 2014 10:33 Zea! wrote: that gyro pick was just stupid and no sense (as vengeful) gyro's really good vs pa cuz he's a natural mkb buyer and he can nuke her down with rocket barrage. pa also can't jump him for the same reason. the pick was good, the play wasn't. Gyro as the last pick in this particular draft was terrible. Invoker would have been so much better and allowed Alliance to fight all around the map. Gyro pick was super fine and Kabras explained why. You sjust throw of "facts" with no reasoning behind. Pick WAS good, execution not so much.
they needed to rotate supports to kill arty mid. RTZ got support rotations that saved his ass multiple times. They could have also ganked brew to try to give AB some more space. I think they could have let NP go 1 v 1 against gyro for a bit
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On October 10 2014 10:43 calmasfok wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:39 Kuroeeah wrote:On October 10 2014 10:38 Seraphic wrote:On October 10 2014 10:37 Kipsate wrote: H4nn1 played Invoker quite a bit. Oh, I hardly ever follow Fnatic games so... Why state "I don't remember I'm playing Invoker" than follow it up with "Well I don't even watch Fnatic games anyway" the mans confused. hes been trying to make loda out to be a top tier carry
Please read my post to see where I said Loda is a top carry. I said Alliance would not come that close in Game 1, or held out that long without Loda.
You're argument with carry is absurd. Even Burning made mistakes. Being an observer allows you to say things. There is no such thing as a perfect player. Get that through your head.
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So hows G3 going? [A] lost?
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On October 10 2014 10:44 blobrus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:42 beifru wrote:On October 10 2014 10:39 blobrus wrote:On October 10 2014 10:37 beifru wrote:On October 10 2014 10:35 blobrus wrote:On October 10 2014 10:33 shizaep wrote:On October 10 2014 10:32 FHDH wrote:On October 10 2014 10:31 TheTenthDoc wrote:On October 10 2014 10:29 Nymzee wrote: who said game 3 would be a 15 minute stomp?
you cursed us all Nonono, you have been saved from another 70 minutes of debating who's better RTZ or Loda. I only regret that I didn't say 20 minute. Was anyone actually arguing that Loda was better than Arteezy? Arteezy is literally the exact opposite of Universe. Honestly arteezy gets so much shit he's actually kinda underrated whereas Universe is given so much praise. Wouldn't say Unis overrated but in a sense what you said is kinda true, just probably not what you meant. No. Both rtz and Universe (he used to be underrated but is not now) are overrated currently. Its ppd that is underrated in EG. Pretty sure without him, EG would be a middle rank Tier 1 team. Pretty sure you could say EG would be an average t1 team if you swapped out any of their players so I'm not sure what you're trying to say. All the players are important. Mason disagrees. EG with fear is infinitely more versatile and scary than EG with Mason.
Not denying Fear's strengths, but showing that he is replaceable contrary to your statement.
Anyway, no one is saying your dear Arteezy is shit. Its just that he is not the god that people make him out to be.
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On October 10 2014 10:44 Kreb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 10 2014 10:35 Kabras wrote:On October 10 2014 10:33 Zea! wrote: that gyro pick was just stupid and no sense (as vengeful) gyro's really good vs pa cuz he's a natural mkb buyer and he can nuke her down with rocket barrage. pa also can't jump him for the same reason. the pick was good, the play wasn't. Gyro as the last pick in this particular draft was terrible. Invoker would have been so much better and allowed Alliance to fight all around the map. Gyro pick was super fine and Kabras explained why. You sjust throw of "facts" with no reasoning behind. Pick WAS good, execution not so much. i agree gyro wasn't the problem. it was a good response to pa
but they locked themselves into having 2 fragile cores by firstpicking void and geting PA'd on
and then their 2 supports aren't as good earlygame as aba/bane so aba/bane outplayed vs/visage in the PA(+np) vs gyro(+void) skirmishes
think centaur would've been better than clock but im centaur-biased
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On October 10 2014 10:46 Kabras wrote: maybe stop bashing the picks and start bashing bulldog for playing for the wrong alex garfield team al series??
I was honestly quite surprised when they kicked EGM over bulldong.
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