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On October 10 2014 10:33 calmasfok wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:32 FHDH wrote:On October 10 2014 10:31 TheTenthDoc wrote:On October 10 2014 10:29 Nymzee wrote:
who said game 3 would be a 15 minute stomp?
you cursed us all Nonono, you have been saved from another 70 minutes of debating who's better RTZ or Loda. I only regret that I didn't say 20 minute. Was anyone actually arguing that Loda was better than Arteezy? they were arguing that loda is an excellent player which is equally ridiculous
You do realize Alliance would have lost game 1 very hard, and game 2 equally hard if it wasn't for Loda right? lol
You can be mad all you want bu tthis would be hell of a lot worse for Alliance if it wasn't for Loda. Several mistakes is natural, in the end, the W in a game is what matters.
Granted they'll lose the series, but that's hardly HIS fault. You can only do so much if your team isn't doing the thing they are required to do to win.
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On October 10 2014 10:33 Zea! wrote:
that gyro pick was just stupid and no sense (as vengeful)
gyro's really good vs pa cuz he's a natural mkb buyer and he can nuke her down with rocket barrage. pa also can't jump him for the same reason. the pick was good, the play wasn't.
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On October 10 2014 10:33 Seraphic wrote:
did A pick Void before or after the PA pick?
Void was first pick, PA was fourth or fifth.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
is there anywhere I can find Vods of Secret and navi vs VG.
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On October 10 2014 10:33 shizaep wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:32 FHDH wrote:On October 10 2014 10:31 TheTenthDoc wrote:On October 10 2014 10:29 Nymzee wrote:
who said game 3 would be a 15 minute stomp?
you cursed us all Nonono, you have been saved from another 70 minutes of debating who's better RTZ or Loda. I only regret that I didn't say 20 minute. Was anyone actually arguing that Loda was better than Arteezy? Arteezy is literally the exact opposite of Universe.
Honestly arteezy gets so much shit he's actually kinda underrated whereas Universe is given so much praise. Wouldn't say Unis overrated but in a sense what you said is kinda true, just probably not what you meant.
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On October 10 2014 10:35 Kabras wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:33 Zea! wrote:
that gyro pick was just stupid and no sense (as vengeful) gyro's really good vs pa cuz he's a natural mkb buyer and he can nuke her down with rocket barrage. pa also can't jump him for the same reason. the pick was good, the play wasn't.
Gyro as the last pick in this particular draft was terrible. Invoker would have been so much better and allowed Alliance to fight all around the map.
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On October 10 2014 10:35 Kipsate wrote:
is there anywhere I can find Vods of Secret and navi vs VG.
I think the vod for the games should be up already on Twitch isn't it? Not sure though
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On October 10 2014 10:34 Seraphic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:33 calmasfok wrote:On October 10 2014 10:32 FHDH wrote:On October 10 2014 10:31 TheTenthDoc wrote:On October 10 2014 10:29 Nymzee wrote:
who said game 3 would be a 15 minute stomp?
you cursed us all Nonono, you have been saved from another 70 minutes of debating who's better RTZ or Loda. I only regret that I didn't say 20 minute. Was anyone actually arguing that Loda was better than Arteezy? they were arguing that loda is an excellent player which is equally ridiculous You do realize Alliance would have lost game 1 very hard, and game 2 equally hard if it wasn't for Loda right? lol You can be mad all you want bu tthis would be hell of a lot worse for Alliance if it wasn't for Loda. Several mistakes is natural, in the end, the W in a game is what matters. Granted they'll lose the series, but that's hardly HIS fault. You can only do so much if your team isn't doing the thing they are required to do to win.
what do u mean lost game 1 withoutn loda and not won game 2 without loda? now this is bullshit. u see without loda there would have been a competent person playing and theyd have won game 2 easily after their rax hold and maybe won game 1 even though that loss was not really on loda. he still didnt play very well that round either tho
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On October 10 2014 10:34 beifru wrote:
EG.H4nni confirmed
It's not just him. He wasn't meant to be the initiator.
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You look at body language and tell EG know they are comfortably ahead, Alliance is quiet and look exhausted.
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On October 10 2014 10:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:35 Kabras wrote:On October 10 2014 10:33 Zea! wrote:
that gyro pick was just stupid and no sense (as vengeful) gyro's really good vs pa cuz he's a natural mkb buyer and he can nuke her down with rocket barrage. pa also can't jump him for the same reason. the pick was good, the play wasn't. Gyro as the last pick in this particular draft was terrible. Invoker would have been so much better and allowed Alliance to fight all around the map.
That's if H4nni is good with voker lol. I don't remember him play that hero ever in Fnatic.
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On October 10 2014 10:37 Seraphic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 10 2014 10:35 Kabras wrote:On October 10 2014 10:33 Zea! wrote:
that gyro pick was just stupid and no sense (as vengeful) gyro's really good vs pa cuz he's a natural mkb buyer and he can nuke her down with rocket barrage. pa also can't jump him for the same reason. the pick was good, the play wasn't. Gyro as the last pick in this particular draft was terrible. Invoker would have been so much better and allowed Alliance to fight all around the map. That's if H4nni is good with voker lol. I don't remember him play that hero ever in Fnatic.
lol...LOL
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Netherlands45349 Posts
H4nn1 played Invoker quite a bit.
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On October 10 2014 10:37 Seraphic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 10 2014 10:35 Kabras wrote:On October 10 2014 10:33 Zea! wrote:
that gyro pick was just stupid and no sense (as vengeful) gyro's really good vs pa cuz he's a natural mkb buyer and he can nuke her down with rocket barrage. pa also can't jump him for the same reason. the pick was good, the play wasn't. Gyro as the last pick in this particular draft was terrible. Invoker would have been so much better and allowed Alliance to fight all around the map. That's if H4nni is good with voker lol. I don't remember him play that hero ever in Fnatic.
do u even follow dota? iuf no that would explain how you dont realise loda is not a top tier carry player :/
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On October 10 2014 10:35 blobrus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:33 shizaep wrote:On October 10 2014 10:32 FHDH wrote:On October 10 2014 10:31 TheTenthDoc wrote:On October 10 2014 10:29 Nymzee wrote:
who said game 3 would be a 15 minute stomp?
you cursed us all Nonono, you have been saved from another 70 minutes of debating who's better RTZ or Loda. I only regret that I didn't say 20 minute. Was anyone actually arguing that Loda was better than Arteezy? Arteezy is literally the exact opposite of Universe. Honestly arteezy gets so much shit he's actually kinda underrated whereas Universe is given so much praise. Wouldn't say Unis overrated but in a sense what you said is kinda true, just probably not what you meant.
No. Both rtz and Universe (he used to be underrated but is not now) are overrated currently.
Its ppd that is underrated in EG. Pretty sure without him, EG would be a middle rank Tier 1 team.
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On October 10 2014 10:36 PhoenixVoid wrote:
You look at body language and tell EG know they are comfortably ahead, Alliance is quiet and look exhausted.
this wait is killing them inside, i can feel it
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alliance 100% deserves this stomp for their terrible picks, they would've had to have godlike execution to not be stomped into the ground
aba/bane/pa/brew are sooo good earlygame (huge powerspike at level 6) this snowball would've taken an equally good earlygame comp to deal with, and vs/gyro/visage isn't that at all, they're all heroes with more linear powercurves (arguably vs and visage are greedier supports that have a bit of powerspike in the mid-lategame relative to more straightforward nuking supports)
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On October 10 2014 10:37 Kipsate wrote:
H4nn1 played Invoker quite a bit.
Oh, I hardly ever follow Fnatic games so...
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On October 10 2014 10:37 Seraphic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 10 2014 10:35 Kabras wrote:On October 10 2014 10:33 Zea! wrote:
that gyro pick was just stupid and no sense (as vengeful) gyro's really good vs pa cuz he's a natural mkb buyer and he can nuke her down with rocket barrage. pa also can't jump him for the same reason. the pick was good, the play wasn't. Gyro as the last pick in this particular draft was terrible. Invoker would have been so much better and allowed Alliance to fight all around the map. That's if H4nni is good with voker lol. I don't remember him play that hero ever in Fnatic.
He did play Invoker for Fnatic. And it was good.
I think that it's AdmiralBulldog who's not really pulling his weight yet again. He gets all those initiators and then fails to have any impact with them.
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