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On October 10 2014 10:11 calmasfok wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:10 calmasfok wrote:On October 10 2014 10:05 FHDH wrote:
Saying Loda makes dumb plays some times and pretending like Arteezy doesn't is just silly. I would draft Arteezy over Loda but this is still a silly conversation. They are both excellent players. loda is not excellent.. an excellent player doesnt use his manta right after euls when being guaranteed stuned by icepath when theres a dp running at him which will silence him and then kill him with exorcism cause he cant dispel the silence with manta and simply blink. (game 1 towards the end in mid river). an excellent player doesnt push with aquilla and 8k gold stacked up on his slotless terrorblade. and excellent player dioesnt wait 20 minutes to long to replace his now useless radi with an in that game invaluable assault cuirass or satanic. an excellent player with 14k gold in the bank on tb doesnt refuse to get a refresher in stash for second metamorphosis and possibly sunder in case they need to push after a defence or he might need those abilities and his bkb after a buyback. this is only from 2 games and only the stuff i was too angry to forget by the way
Well my point was that Arteezy also does really dumb things some times and you named some dumb things that Loda did, and he still managed to carry that game hard against an EG that was playing a really tight game.
But ok man be angry it's cool. I've made similar points about XBOCT.
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Loda has had good void games, they just don't stick in the memory. I must admit though I'm a little nervous about how it's gonna pan out this time around.
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On October 10 2014 10:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Holy what is that PA face
It looks like a werewolf or something. Too spooky.
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Is Bane picked as a Void counter? I see C9 do it all the time too, Enfeeble seems really good against it
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On October 10 2014 10:12 Nocticate wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:10 calmasfok wrote:On October 10 2014 10:05 FHDH wrote:
Saying Loda makes dumb plays some times and pretending like Arteezy doesn't is just silly. I would draft Arteezy over Loda but this is still a silly conversation. They are both excellent players. loda is not excellent.. an excellent player doesnt use his manta right after euls when being guaranteed stuned by icepath when theres a dp running at him which will silence him and then kill him with exorcism cause he cant dispel the silence with manta and simply blink. (game 1 towards the end in mid river). an excellent player doesnt push with aquilla and 8k gold stacked up on his slotless terrorblade. and excellent player dioesnt wait 20 minutes to long to replace his now useless radi with an in that game invaluable assault cuirass or satanic. an excellent player with 14k gold in the bank on tb doesnt refuse to get a refresher in stash for second metamorphosis and possibly sunder in case they need to push after a defence or he might need those abilities and his bkb after a buyback. i feel like you might be making a decent argument but use commas and capitalize letters if you're making a paragraph-long post please
cant to angry at the caster praise induced ignorance of loda defenders
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In before blink dagon Gyro
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On October 10 2014 10:15 Procake wrote:
Is Bane picked as a Void counter? I see C9 do it all the time too, Enfeeble seems really good against it
Enfeeble ruins him, Nightmare ruins him, Fiend's Grip ruins him.
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On October 10 2014 10:14 FHDH wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:11 calmasfok wrote:On October 10 2014 10:10 calmasfok wrote:On October 10 2014 10:05 FHDH wrote:
Saying Loda makes dumb plays some times and pretending like Arteezy doesn't is just silly. I would draft Arteezy over Loda but this is still a silly conversation. They are both excellent players. loda is not excellent.. an excellent player doesnt use his manta right after euls when being guaranteed stuned by icepath when theres a dp running at him which will silence him and then kill him with exorcism cause he cant dispel the silence with manta and simply blink. (game 1 towards the end in mid river). an excellent player doesnt push with aquilla and 8k gold stacked up on his slotless terrorblade. and excellent player dioesnt wait 20 minutes to long to replace his now useless radi with an in that game invaluable assault cuirass or satanic. an excellent player with 14k gold in the bank on tb doesnt refuse to get a refresher in stash for second metamorphosis and possibly sunder in case they need to push after a defence or he might need those abilities and his bkb after a buyback. this is only from 2 games and only the stuff i was too angry to forget by the way Well my point was that Arteezy also does really dumb things some times and you named some dumb things that Loda did, and he still managed to carry that game hard against an EG that was playing a really tight game. But ok man be angry it's cool. I've made similar points about XBOCT.
He only "carried" that game because he happened to be the carry.
You swap Loda and RTZ on the rosters and Alliance win quite easily.
You swap Loda and Fear and Alliance win quite easily.
It's been a long time since Loda was on par with the top talent.
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RTZ is actually an rng lord lol
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On October 10 2014 10:15 calmasfok wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:12 Nocticate wrote:On October 10 2014 10:10 calmasfok wrote:On October 10 2014 10:05 FHDH wrote:
Saying Loda makes dumb plays some times and pretending like Arteezy doesn't is just silly. I would draft Arteezy over Loda but this is still a silly conversation. They are both excellent players. loda is not excellent.. an excellent player doesnt use his manta right after euls when being guaranteed stuned by icepath when theres a dp running at him which will silence him and then kill him with exorcism cause he cant dispel the silence with manta and simply blink. (game 1 towards the end in mid river). an excellent player doesnt push with aquilla and 8k gold stacked up on his slotless terrorblade. and excellent player dioesnt wait 20 minutes to long to replace his now useless radi with an in that game invaluable assault cuirass or satanic. an excellent player with 14k gold in the bank on tb doesnt refuse to get a refresher in stash for second metamorphosis and possibly sunder in case they need to push after a defence or he might need those abilities and his bkb after a buyback. i feel like you might be making a decent argument but use commas and capitalize letters if you're making a paragraph-long post please cant to angry at the caster praise induced ignorance of loda defenders
oh no people might be wrong on the internet
arguing when you're angry is a terrible idea in my experience
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On October 10 2014 10:14 FHDH wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:11 calmasfok wrote:On October 10 2014 10:10 calmasfok wrote:On October 10 2014 10:05 FHDH wrote:
Saying Loda makes dumb plays some times and pretending like Arteezy doesn't is just silly. I would draft Arteezy over Loda but this is still a silly conversation. They are both excellent players. loda is not excellent.. an excellent player doesnt use his manta right after euls when being guaranteed stuned by icepath when theres a dp running at him which will silence him and then kill him with exorcism cause he cant dispel the silence with manta and simply blink. (game 1 towards the end in mid river). an excellent player doesnt push with aquilla and 8k gold stacked up on his slotless terrorblade. and excellent player dioesnt wait 20 minutes to long to replace his now useless radi with an in that game invaluable assault cuirass or satanic. an excellent player with 14k gold in the bank on tb doesnt refuse to get a refresher in stash for second metamorphosis and possibly sunder in case they need to push after a defence or he might need those abilities and his bkb after a buyback. this is only from 2 games and only the stuff i was too angry to forget by the way Well my point was that Arteezy also does really dumb things some times and you named some dumb things that Loda did, and he still managed to carry that game hard against an EG that was playing a really tight game. But ok man be angry it's cool. I've made similar points about XBOCT.
you wont see arteezy making this amount of mistakes in 20 games unless hes playing Ember at the last starladder. also what i named arent dumb plays. they are the absence of good plays. loda is replacable at any second.
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Culling blade useful tool Loda
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What is Tobi talking about lol
Pre-6.82 he would've gotten RTZ down to half-life at best.
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On October 10 2014 10:17 Nocticate wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:15 calmasfok wrote:On October 10 2014 10:12 Nocticate wrote:On October 10 2014 10:10 calmasfok wrote:On October 10 2014 10:05 FHDH wrote:
Saying Loda makes dumb plays some times and pretending like Arteezy doesn't is just silly. I would draft Arteezy over Loda but this is still a silly conversation. They are both excellent players. loda is not excellent.. an excellent player doesnt use his manta right after euls when being guaranteed stuned by icepath when theres a dp running at him which will silence him and then kill him with exorcism cause he cant dispel the silence with manta and simply blink. (game 1 towards the end in mid river). an excellent player doesnt push with aquilla and 8k gold stacked up on his slotless terrorblade. and excellent player dioesnt wait 20 minutes to long to replace his now useless radi with an in that game invaluable assault cuirass or satanic. an excellent player with 14k gold in the bank on tb doesnt refuse to get a refresher in stash for second metamorphosis and possibly sunder in case they need to push after a defence or he might need those abilities and his bkb after a buyback. i feel like you might be making a decent argument but use commas and capitalize letters if you're making a paragraph-long post please cant to angry at the caster praise induced ignorance of loda defenders oh no people might be wrong on the internet arguing when you're angry is a terrible idea in my experience
im not really arguing. its more like venting which sems like a great idea to me when im angry
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On October 10 2014 10:19 beifru wrote:
h4nni is so fking bad
Triple rapier gyro loss, never forget.
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250 gold difference between pa and gyro.
"pa is getting way ahead of gyro and it's a problem." -merlini
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On October 10 2014 10:18 calmasfok wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:14 FHDH wrote:On October 10 2014 10:11 calmasfok wrote:On October 10 2014 10:10 calmasfok wrote:On October 10 2014 10:05 FHDH wrote:
Saying Loda makes dumb plays some times and pretending like Arteezy doesn't is just silly. I would draft Arteezy over Loda but this is still a silly conversation. They are both excellent players. loda is not excellent.. an excellent player doesnt use his manta right after euls when being guaranteed stuned by icepath when theres a dp running at him which will silence him and then kill him with exorcism cause he cant dispel the silence with manta and simply blink. (game 1 towards the end in mid river). an excellent player doesnt push with aquilla and 8k gold stacked up on his slotless terrorblade. and excellent player dioesnt wait 20 minutes to long to replace his now useless radi with an in that game invaluable assault cuirass or satanic. an excellent player with 14k gold in the bank on tb doesnt refuse to get a refresher in stash for second metamorphosis and possibly sunder in case they need to push after a defence or he might need those abilities and his bkb after a buyback. this is only from 2 games and only the stuff i was too angry to forget by the way Well my point was that Arteezy also does really dumb things some times and you named some dumb things that Loda did, and he still managed to carry that game hard against an EG that was playing a really tight game. But ok man be angry it's cool. I've made similar points about XBOCT. you wont see arteezy making this amount of mistakes in 20 games unless hes playing Ember at the last starladder. also what i named arent dumb plays. they are the absence of good plays. loda is replacable at any second.
But what if...bear with me here...Arteezy is overrated, and Loda is underrated due to the recent lack of his team's success. How would you respond to this hypothetical.
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