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Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-10 01:21:11
October 10 2014 01:21 GMT
#3001
Alliance getting wrecked early every single game. Address it already?
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
October 10 2014 01:21 GMT
#3002
This abaddon PA combination really makes RTZ extremely durable, Alliance just can't burst him down quick enough
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 10 2014 01:21 GMT
#3003
PPD completely owning everythign Alliance is trying.
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
October 10 2014 01:21 GMT
#3004
i wish i had this much luck with my coup de grace lol
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 10 2014 01:21 GMT
#3005
wait Loda tped to the T1 O.o

anyway looking grim for Alliance.
WriterXiao8~~
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
October 10 2014 01:21 GMT
#3006
On October 10 2014 10:21 Kreb wrote:
PPD completely owning everythign Alliance is trying.

PPD confirmed mastermind
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-10 01:22:25
October 10 2014 01:22 GMT
#3007
On October 10 2014 10:21 Demand2k wrote:
Alliance getting wrecked early every single game. Address it already?


It's too late, they've gone full C9.
calmasfok
Profile Joined September 2014
91 Posts
October 10 2014 01:23 GMT
#3008
On October 10 2014 10:20 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 10:18 calmasfok wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:14 FHDH wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:11 calmasfok wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:10 calmasfok wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:05 FHDH wrote:
Saying Loda makes dumb plays some times and pretending like Arteezy doesn't is just silly. I would draft Arteezy over Loda but this is still a silly conversation. They are both excellent players.

loda is not excellent.. an excellent player doesnt use his manta right after euls when being guaranteed stuned by icepath when theres a dp running at him which will silence him and then kill him with exorcism cause he cant dispel the silence with manta and simply blink. (game 1 towards the end in mid river). an excellent player doesnt push with aquilla and 8k gold stacked up on his slotless terrorblade. and excellent player dioesnt wait 20 minutes to long to replace his now useless radi with an in that game invaluable assault cuirass or satanic. an excellent player with 14k gold in the bank on tb doesnt refuse to get a refresher in stash for second metamorphosis and possibly sunder in case they need to push after a defence or he might need those abilities and his bkb after a buyback.

this is only from 2 games and only the stuff i was too angry to forget by the way

Well my point was that Arteezy also does really dumb things some times and you named some dumb things that Loda did, and he still managed to carry that game hard against an EG that was playing a really tight game.

But ok man be angry it's cool. I've made similar points about XBOCT.

you wont see arteezy making this amount of mistakes in 20 games unless hes playing Ember at the last starladder. also what i named arent dumb plays. they are the absence of good plays. loda is replacable at any second.

But what if...bear with me here...Arteezy is overrated, and Loda is underrated due to the recent lack of his team's success. How would you respond to this hypothetical.

id probably just continue listing the atrocities commited by loda in this series which really clearly prove hes far from excellent. hey that tp to top tier 2 was a good example
pussy and patrol make me feel alright
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 10 2014 01:23 GMT
#3009
Tough cookie for Alliance. Should've given h4nni Invoker instead of Gyro.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
October 10 2014 01:23 GMT
#3010
On October 10 2014 10:20 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 10:18 calmasfok wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:14 FHDH wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:11 calmasfok wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:10 calmasfok wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:05 FHDH wrote:
Saying Loda makes dumb plays some times and pretending like Arteezy doesn't is just silly. I would draft Arteezy over Loda but this is still a silly conversation. They are both excellent players.

loda is not excellent.. an excellent player doesnt use his manta right after euls when being guaranteed stuned by icepath when theres a dp running at him which will silence him and then kill him with exorcism cause he cant dispel the silence with manta and simply blink. (game 1 towards the end in mid river). an excellent player doesnt push with aquilla and 8k gold stacked up on his slotless terrorblade. and excellent player dioesnt wait 20 minutes to long to replace his now useless radi with an in that game invaluable assault cuirass or satanic. an excellent player with 14k gold in the bank on tb doesnt refuse to get a refresher in stash for second metamorphosis and possibly sunder in case they need to push after a defence or he might need those abilities and his bkb after a buyback.

this is only from 2 games and only the stuff i was too angry to forget by the way

Well my point was that Arteezy also does really dumb things some times and you named some dumb things that Loda did, and he still managed to carry that game hard against an EG that was playing a really tight game.

But ok man be angry it's cool. I've made similar points about XBOCT.

you wont see arteezy making this amount of mistakes in 20 games unless hes playing Ember at the last starladder. also what i named arent dumb plays. they are the absence of good plays. loda is replacable at any second.

But what if...bear with me here...Arteezy is overrated, and Loda is underrated due to the recent lack of his team's success. How would you respond to this hypothetical.


Why even argue this hypothetical?
Back during TI3, all of the credit was (correctly) given to the other 4 players on Alliance and Loda was just an afterthought.
Get real dude, Loda hasn't been relevant since Dota 1.
Chill Penguin
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia756 Posts
October 10 2014 01:23 GMT
#3011
Hanni has been so poor across this series. He needs to start contributing for Alliance to have a chance.
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
October 10 2014 01:23 GMT
#3012
faith in loda
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
October 10 2014 01:24 GMT
#3013
On October 10 2014 10:19 calmasfok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 10:17 Nocticate wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:15 calmasfok wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:12 Nocticate wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:10 calmasfok wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:05 FHDH wrote:
Saying Loda makes dumb plays some times and pretending like Arteezy doesn't is just silly. I would draft Arteezy over Loda but this is still a silly conversation. They are both excellent players.

loda is not excellent.. an excellent player doesnt use his manta right after euls when being guaranteed stuned by icepath when theres a dp running at him which will silence him and then kill him with exorcism cause he cant dispel the silence with manta and simply blink. (game 1 towards the end in mid river). an excellent player doesnt push with aquilla and 8k gold stacked up on his slotless terrorblade. and excellent player dioesnt wait 20 minutes to long to replace his now useless radi with an in that game invaluable assault cuirass or satanic. an excellent player with 14k gold in the bank on tb doesnt refuse to get a refresher in stash for second metamorphosis and possibly sunder in case they need to push after a defence or he might need those abilities and his bkb after a buyback.

i feel like you might be making a decent argument but use commas and capitalize letters if you're making a paragraph-long post please

cant to angry at the caster praise induced ignorance of loda defenders

oh no people might be wrong on the internet
arguing when you're angry is a terrible idea in my experience

im not really arguing. its more like venting which sems like a great idea to me when im angry

venting is usually done best when it's not towards the object of your anger otherwise it defeats the point of venting which is letting out your anger without actually getting in a fight
trust me, friend. i used to get really mad at people on the internet. i realized after a couple temp-bans from my then-favorite forum that it's really not worth it
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
October 10 2014 01:24 GMT
#3014
Void 1st pick, Loda Void, Midas Void... disasterrrr
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
October 10 2014 01:24 GMT
#3015
13 minute midas?? They've committed to losing early game and it's not like they're a lock to win late.
calmasfok
Profile Joined September 2014
91 Posts
October 10 2014 01:24 GMT
#3016
On October 10 2014 10:23 calmasfok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 10:20 FHDH wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:18 calmasfok wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:14 FHDH wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:11 calmasfok wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:10 calmasfok wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:05 FHDH wrote:
Saying Loda makes dumb plays some times and pretending like Arteezy doesn't is just silly. I would draft Arteezy over Loda but this is still a silly conversation. They are both excellent players.

loda is not excellent.. an excellent player doesnt use his manta right after euls when being guaranteed stuned by icepath when theres a dp running at him which will silence him and then kill him with exorcism cause he cant dispel the silence with manta and simply blink. (game 1 towards the end in mid river). an excellent player doesnt push with aquilla and 8k gold stacked up on his slotless terrorblade. and excellent player dioesnt wait 20 minutes to long to replace his now useless radi with an in that game invaluable assault cuirass or satanic. an excellent player with 14k gold in the bank on tb doesnt refuse to get a refresher in stash for second metamorphosis and possibly sunder in case they need to push after a defence or he might need those abilities and his bkb after a buyback.

this is only from 2 games and only the stuff i was too angry to forget by the way

Well my point was that Arteezy also does really dumb things some times and you named some dumb things that Loda did, and he still managed to carry that game hard against an EG that was playing a really tight game.

But ok man be angry it's cool. I've made similar points about XBOCT.

you wont see arteezy making this amount of mistakes in 20 games unless hes playing Ember at the last starladder. also what i named arent dumb plays. they are the absence of good plays. loda is replacable at any second.

But what if...bear with me here...Arteezy is overrated, and Loda is underrated due to the recent lack of his team's success. How would you respond to this hypothetical.

id probably just continue listing the atrocities commited by loda in this series which really clearly prove hes far from excellent. hey that tp to top tier 2 was a good example

and though this by itself is no atrocity and happens to the best, it does become one when admired in context of the other stuff loda is guilty off this series
pussy and patrol make me feel alright
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
October 10 2014 01:24 GMT
#3017
comon Alliance stop losing early game like this lol.
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 10 2014 01:24 GMT
#3018
I still don't even think fv is worth the first pick.
calmasfok
Profile Joined September 2014
91 Posts
October 10 2014 01:25 GMT
#3019
On October 10 2014 10:24 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 10:19 calmasfok wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:17 Nocticate wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:15 calmasfok wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:12 Nocticate wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:10 calmasfok wrote:
On October 10 2014 10:05 FHDH wrote:
Saying Loda makes dumb plays some times and pretending like Arteezy doesn't is just silly. I would draft Arteezy over Loda but this is still a silly conversation. They are both excellent players.

loda is not excellent.. an excellent player doesnt use his manta right after euls when being guaranteed stuned by icepath when theres a dp running at him which will silence him and then kill him with exorcism cause he cant dispel the silence with manta and simply blink. (game 1 towards the end in mid river). an excellent player doesnt push with aquilla and 8k gold stacked up on his slotless terrorblade. and excellent player dioesnt wait 20 minutes to long to replace his now useless radi with an in that game invaluable assault cuirass or satanic. an excellent player with 14k gold in the bank on tb doesnt refuse to get a refresher in stash for second metamorphosis and possibly sunder in case they need to push after a defence or he might need those abilities and his bkb after a buyback.

i feel like you might be making a decent argument but use commas and capitalize letters if you're making a paragraph-long post please

cant to angry at the caster praise induced ignorance of loda defenders

oh no people might be wrong on the internet
arguing when you're angry is a terrible idea in my experience

im not really arguing. its more like venting which sems like a great idea to me when im angry

venting is usually done best when it's not towards the object of your anger otherwise it defeats the point of venting which is letting out your anger without actually getting in a fight
trust me, friend. i used to get really mad at people on the internet. i realized after a couple temp-bans from my then-favorite forum that it's really not worth it

im not angry at any1. im simply fucking angry.
pussy and patrol make me feel alright
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
October 10 2014 01:25 GMT
#3020
On October 10 2014 10:24 Seraphic wrote:
comon Alliance stop losing early game like this lol.

it was fine when they had decent lategame
gyro and void against a PA and furion? just not seeing the comeback
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
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