EPT[TI4] Grand Finals - Page 155
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Serbia976 Posts
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yyfpulls
United States2185 Posts
game 2 - 26:11 Newbee victory game 3 - 17:34 Newbee victory game 4 - 15:08 Newbee victory avg. match length: 20:15 | ||
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Destructicon
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On July 22 2014 05:58 Bam Lee wrote: you seem to forget how navi fountain hooked a clearly superior team out of the tournament! Oh about that, Newbee being formed out of the ashes of TongFu basically means they also got revenge on Na'vi for last year. I guess justice really does exist. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
On July 22 2014 05:57 opterown wrote: eh newbee was going pretty even with both DK and iG during june and really smacked them around during may At a point people did say Newbee is best team in the world, that lasted maybe 1 month, 2 max. But they never had that international presence, etc. Like even though I wasn't a fan of Alliance, I was happy they won, they shown they were the best. I would be happy if Navi won too, just because I like them, but I was the team who has been showing how incredible they are to win, not just some team that turns it up for the TI4. That's why I really liked TI3 - I can't comment on other TI's since I started watching Dota 2 at around the point that TI3 started. | ||
Champloo
Germany1850 Posts
Excited for the post TI reshuffle and I hope next year will be better again! | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 22 2014 05:59 Derity wrote: I strongly agree, that the way to the finals was not building up any hype. Never had the feeling that they play for so much money, could as well have been a 50k tournament. Could have done the poker thing and just dump a gigantic amount of money in front of their booths. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 22 2014 05:58 Bam Lee wrote: you seem to forget how navi fountain hooked a clearly superior team out of the tournament! Plz, if its in the game, its fair game. Its not like the other team didn't know it was an option. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On July 22 2014 05:56 FiWiFaKi wrote: I'll quickly share my thoughts on why this finals and tournament didn't do it for me. Obviously like other people mentioned, Newbee and Vici aren't the most hype teams and the games weren't very intense. But I think what really mattered to me, is that before TI4, they were not looking solid. Vici losing to Fnatic, not really going far, Newbee still looking good but being bested by DK and iG relatively frequently... I can't call them the best teams in the world just because they have won TI. Their performance before hasn't shown it, so if they keep demolishing everyone for the next 4-6 months, then sure, I'll be happy for Newbee, and really say this was the start of something huge for them, but if Newbee just goes to disband since they all just made $1,000,000 USD, then there is this void of a champion to me. That's the main thing that did it for me, don't know if anyone else really feels this way. So Navi looking average prior to TI2 and TI3 didn't massively impact how you felt over the finals since you couldn't call them the 2nd best team in the world? | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 22 2014 05:59 superstartran wrote: Doesn't matter, if one of them decides to retire that's pretty much it. Xiao8's pretty much done everything at this point, there's no reason for Director 8 to stick around. If he just gets to TI5 ro8, thats a free 100k. Better than a lot of yearly salaries, may as well stick around  | ||
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Mensol
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Poll: Best TI? TI3 (52) TI4 (18) TI2 (11) TI1 (2) 83 total votes Your vote: Best TI? | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 22 2014 06:00 FiWiFaKi wrote: At a point people did say Newbee is best team in the world, that lasted maybe 1 month, 2 max. But they never had that international presence, etc. Like even though I wasn't a fan of Alliance, I was happy they won, they shown they were the best. I would be happy if Navi won too, just because I like them, but I was the team who has been showing how incredible they are to win, not just some team that turns it up for the TI4. That's why I really liked TI3 - I can't comment on other TI's since I started watching Dota 2 at around the point that TI3 started. well they've only been around for like 5 months, being called the best for 40% of their life is pretty good. pity they didn't dominate any western tournaments before TI as well i guess | ||
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
On July 22 2014 06:00 Numy wrote: So Navi looking average prior to TI2 and TI3 didn't massively impact how you felt over the finals since you couldn't call them the 2nd best team in the world? NaVi didn't look average prior to TI3, they did prior to TI2 but so do every western team | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
On July 22 2014 06:00 Numy wrote: So Navi looking average prior to TI2 and TI3 didn't massively impact how you felt over the finals since you couldn't call them the 2nd best team in the world? Sorry, I mentioned that in the one above this one. Navi is one exception out of all the teams because I am a huge fan boy, and the first TI I saw was TI3, so I can't comment on anything outside of that. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 22 2014 06:00 Numy wrote: So Navi looking average prior to TI2 and TI3 didn't massively impact how you felt over the finals since you couldn't call them the 2nd best team in the world? na`vi never looked average before both, they were top 2 western team each time going in | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 22 2014 06:00 Destructicon wrote: Oh about that, Newbee being formed out of the ashes of TongFu basically means they also got revenge on Na'vi for last year. I guess justice really does exist. VG could not win because there was no more vengeance left to enact. | ||
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
On July 22 2014 06:00 stuchiu wrote: Could have done the poker thing and just dump a gigantic amount of money in front of their booths. "There is your prize. Now you find a way to get it home" | ||
disciple
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I wouldve been extremely happy if newbie were all new previously unknown players bursting through. Thats not my point. My argument was that reforming teams with the same ppl and have basically teams form and get into TI is kinda underwhelming to me and makes it hard to cheer for the teams. If KT rolster disband every year and the same players form new teams every year but say with fantasy or rain or snute coming and going every year would you care about a team competition where 50% or so of the teams are formed like that ? There's very little in terms of brand continuity and team fandom, which was even apparent by the miserable numbers of pennants for both teams in-game | ||
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