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Please stop the caster bashing. You can disagree with them and post about it but posts that only serve to bash casters senselessly will be actioned.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
July 21 2014 02:26 GMT
#6401
On July 21 2014 11:24 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:24 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:21 Kipsate wrote:
I think thats quite a small sample size, a lot of people (and all who love rat dota) love Alliance

Bulldog was picked up to standin for Alliance by Dendi and has his thing with Sheever, Akke and Loda are veterans and have a bromance that eclipses Kelly's relationship with Loda., EGM has his stuff with Blitz and S4 just feels like a pretty cool guy and made a reputation as the son of Magnus.

All in all I think its vastly overrated how many haters they have.


Except the part where they kicked EE out of NTH and every EE fan hated Alliance.

Except EE didn't really have that many fans until he joined up with sing and all that at that point. By the time that Alliance were at TI all that had already died down.


I guess so, heh. I just remember the forums blowing up about it.
CherryNubCakes
Profile Joined July 2012
United States972 Posts
July 21 2014 02:27 GMT
#6402
On July 21 2014 11:09 opterown wrote:
what makes people rate sylar so highly? o.O

For me, his Morphling.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 21 2014 02:27 GMT
#6403
On July 21 2014 11:26 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:24 Kipsate wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:24 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:21 Kipsate wrote:
I think thats quite a small sample size, a lot of people (and all who love rat dota) love Alliance

Bulldog was picked up to standin for Alliance by Dendi and has his thing with Sheever, Akke and Loda are veterans and have a bromance that eclipses Kelly's relationship with Loda., EGM has his stuff with Blitz and S4 just feels like a pretty cool guy and made a reputation as the son of Magnus.

All in all I think its vastly overrated how many haters they have.


Except the part where they kicked EE out of NTH and every EE fan hated Alliance.

Except EE didn't really have that many fans until he joined up with sing and all that at that point. By the time that Alliance were at TI all that had already died down.


I guess so, heh. I just remember the forums blowing up about it.

True, for about 2 weeks or so, by the time TI3 rolled around most people forgotten about it because Alliance were on their hot streak and rekt everyone which was much more important.
WriterXiao8~~
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
July 21 2014 02:28 GMT
#6404
On July 21 2014 11:26 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:24 Kipsate wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:24 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:21 Kipsate wrote:
I think thats quite a small sample size, a lot of people (and all who love rat dota) love Alliance

Bulldog was picked up to standin for Alliance by Dendi and has his thing with Sheever, Akke and Loda are veterans and have a bromance that eclipses Kelly's relationship with Loda., EGM has his stuff with Blitz and S4 just feels like a pretty cool guy and made a reputation as the son of Magnus.

All in all I think its vastly overrated how many haters they have.


Except the part where they kicked EE out of NTH and every EE fan hated Alliance.

Except EE didn't really have that many fans until he joined up with sing and all that at that point. By the time that Alliance were at TI all that had already died down.


I guess so, heh. I just remember the forums blowing up about it.


That's how drama in esports work. One day pitchforks, next day all is forgiven.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 02:30:34
July 21 2014 02:28 GMT
#6405
On July 21 2014 11:25 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:21 Kipsate wrote:
I think thats quite a small sample size, a lot of people (and all who love rat dota) love Alliance

Bulldog was picked up to standin for Alliance by Dendi and has his thing with Sheever, Akke and Loda are veterans and have a bromance that eclipses Kelly's relationship with Loda., EGM has his stuff with Blitz and S4 just feels like a pretty cool guy and made a reputation as the son of Magnus.

All in all I think its vastly overrated how many haters they have.

But i get a lot of flak whenever i say i like alliance

I really don't know. From my perspective it's really different in terms of hate when it comes to alliance. I mean people hate EG because of the arrogant vibe. I don't think anyone hates C9 at all rofl. And other teams are hated for variety of reasons but alliance is usually hated because people think they don't play fair and they shouldn't have won but the other team since they think winning fights is how dota should be won.



I still remember comment on joindota few hours after TI3 ended when guy said "Okay, let's remove towers, fountains and Roshan, redesign map into arena and just fight".

Can't understand though why do you need to hate anyone, it's like in football when visitors fans and home crowd start to chant some shit into each other instead of supporting your team. Pathetic.

Alliance have that aura of bromance, friendship and stuff, C9 have that flamboyance, EG have hype, trashtalk and stuff, and so on. Every team have pros and cons, just choose and go all the way until disband.

On July 21 2014 11:29 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:24 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:21 Kipsate wrote:
I think thats quite a small sample size, a lot of people (and all who love rat dota) love Alliance

Bulldog was picked up to standin for Alliance by Dendi and has his thing with Sheever, Akke and Loda are veterans and have a bromance that eclipses Kelly's relationship with Loda., EGM has his stuff with Blitz and S4 just feels like a pretty cool guy and made a reputation as the son of Magnus.

All in all I think its vastly overrated how many haters they have.


Except the part where they kicked EE out of NTH and every EE fan hated Alliance.


Except for EE who still cheered for [A] in the end.
It's like people never saw kicks and shit in dota history.


Yeah i think he and loda has a superficial but good relationship. Idk if that makes sense but you get the point. They are careful with how they talk to each other due to history but they are sort good to each.


Well, ofc EE is salty a bit, but shit happens. He won way more than Alliance did this time, so i guess, 1-1. But in general, players are okay with each other.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
July 21 2014 02:29 GMT
#6406
On July 21 2014 11:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:24 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:21 Kipsate wrote:
I think thats quite a small sample size, a lot of people (and all who love rat dota) love Alliance

Bulldog was picked up to standin for Alliance by Dendi and has his thing with Sheever, Akke and Loda are veterans and have a bromance that eclipses Kelly's relationship with Loda., EGM has his stuff with Blitz and S4 just feels like a pretty cool guy and made a reputation as the son of Magnus.

All in all I think its vastly overrated how many haters they have.


Except the part where they kicked EE out of NTH and every EE fan hated Alliance.


Except for EE who still cheered for [A] in the end.
It's like people never saw kicks and shit in dota history.


Yeah i think he and loda has a superficial but good relationship. Idk if that makes sense but you get the point. They are careful with how they talk to each other due to history but they are sort good to each.
this is a quote
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
July 21 2014 02:29 GMT
#6407
It's ok guys, if korea picks up dota then we'll be saved from an all chinese TI 5 and can have a chinese vs korea finals instead.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
July 21 2014 02:31 GMT
#6408
On July 21 2014 11:29 Canucklehead wrote:
It's ok guys, if korea picks up dota then we'll be saved from an all chinese TI 5 and can have a chinese vs korea finals instead.

Lol no it will be KOREAN vs KOREAN finals.

Historically they have proven to beat everyone massively in a competitive scene !
this is a quote
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 02:32:41
July 21 2014 02:31 GMT
#6409
have you seen korean dota as of late. think the real talents will stick with lol and sc2.

maybe TI6 we'll see a top tier korean team.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 21 2014 02:32 GMT
#6410
I mean I don't think the relationship between EE and Loda is as good as Burning and rOtk despite the latter also parting ways but I don't think they really hate each other.
WriterXiao8~~
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 21 2014 02:32 GMT
#6411
On July 21 2014 11:27 CherryNubCakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:09 opterown wrote:
what makes people rate sylar so highly? o.O

For me, his Morphling.

hao and burning also play impeccable morphs too though
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 02:36:16
July 21 2014 02:33 GMT
#6412
On July 21 2014 11:31 HighTimeDotA wrote:
have you seen korean dota as of late. think the real talents will stick with lol and sc2.

maybe TI6 we'll see a top tier korean team.

it was a joke buddy i know koreans have a long way to go


On July 21 2014 11:32 Kipsate wrote:
I mean I don't think the relationship between EE and Loda is as good as Burning and rOtk despite the latter also parting ways but I don't think they really hate each other.

I think burning and Rotk are good friends .. they seem to always hang out together in lan events more than any other teams who hang out with another member from another team. And they may have just agreed that they don't work well together in one team.
this is a quote
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
July 21 2014 02:35 GMT
#6413
On July 21 2014 11:28 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:25 goody153 wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:21 Kipsate wrote:
I think thats quite a small sample size, a lot of people (and all who love rat dota) love Alliance

Bulldog was picked up to standin for Alliance by Dendi and has his thing with Sheever, Akke and Loda are veterans and have a bromance that eclipses Kelly's relationship with Loda., EGM has his stuff with Blitz and S4 just feels like a pretty cool guy and made a reputation as the son of Magnus.

All in all I think its vastly overrated how many haters they have.

But i get a lot of flak whenever i say i like alliance

I really don't know. From my perspective it's really different in terms of hate when it comes to alliance. I mean people hate EG because of the arrogant vibe. I don't think anyone hates C9 at all rofl. And other teams are hated for variety of reasons but alliance is usually hated because people think they don't play fair and they shouldn't have won but the other team since they think winning fights is how dota should be won.



I still remember comment on joindota few hours after TI3 ended when guy said "Okay, let's remove towers, fountains and Roshan, redesign map into arena and just fight".

Can't understand though why do you need to hate anyone, it's like in football when visitors fans and home crowd start to chant some shit into each other instead of supporting your team. Pathetic.

Alliance have that aura of bromance, friendship and stuff, C9 have that flamboyance, EG have hype, trashtalk and stuff, and so on. Every team have pros and cons, just choose and go all the way until disband.

Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:29 goody153 wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:24 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:21 Kipsate wrote:
I think thats quite a small sample size, a lot of people (and all who love rat dota) love Alliance

Bulldog was picked up to standin for Alliance by Dendi and has his thing with Sheever, Akke and Loda are veterans and have a bromance that eclipses Kelly's relationship with Loda., EGM has his stuff with Blitz and S4 just feels like a pretty cool guy and made a reputation as the son of Magnus.

All in all I think its vastly overrated how many haters they have.


Except the part where they kicked EE out of NTH and every EE fan hated Alliance.


Except for EE who still cheered for [A] in the end.
It's like people never saw kicks and shit in dota history.


Yeah i think he and loda has a superficial but good relationship. Idk if that makes sense but you get the point. They are careful with how they talk to each other due to history but they are sort good to each.


Well, ofc EE is salty a bit, but shit happens. He won way more than Alliance did this time, so i guess, 1-1. But in general, players are okay with each other.


Don't follow other sports I guess.
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Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
July 21 2014 02:35 GMT
#6414
On July 21 2014 11:28 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:25 goody153 wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:21 Kipsate wrote:
I think thats quite a small sample size, a lot of people (and all who love rat dota) love Alliance

Bulldog was picked up to standin for Alliance by Dendi and has his thing with Sheever, Akke and Loda are veterans and have a bromance that eclipses Kelly's relationship with Loda., EGM has his stuff with Blitz and S4 just feels like a pretty cool guy and made a reputation as the son of Magnus.

All in all I think its vastly overrated how many haters they have.

But i get a lot of flak whenever i say i like alliance

I really don't know. From my perspective it's really different in terms of hate when it comes to alliance. I mean people hate EG because of the arrogant vibe. I don't think anyone hates C9 at all rofl. And other teams are hated for variety of reasons but alliance is usually hated because people think they don't play fair and they shouldn't have won but the other team since they think winning fights is how dota should be won.



I still remember comment on joindota few hours after TI3 ended when guy said "Okay, let's remove towers, fountains and Roshan, redesign map into arena and just fight".

Can't understand though why do you need to hate anyone, it's like in football when visitors fans and home crowd start to chant some shit into each other instead of supporting your team. Pathetic.

Alliance have that aura of bromance, friendship and stuff, C9 have that flamboyance, EG have hype, trashtalk and stuff, and so on. Every team have pros and cons, just choose and go all the way until disband.

Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:29 goody153 wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:24 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:21 Kipsate wrote:
I think thats quite a small sample size, a lot of people (and all who love rat dota) love Alliance

Bulldog was picked up to standin for Alliance by Dendi and has his thing with Sheever, Akke and Loda are veterans and have a bromance that eclipses Kelly's relationship with Loda., EGM has his stuff with Blitz and S4 just feels like a pretty cool guy and made a reputation as the son of Magnus.

All in all I think its vastly overrated how many haters they have.


Except the part where they kicked EE out of NTH and every EE fan hated Alliance.


Except for EE who still cheered for [A] in the end.
It's like people never saw kicks and shit in dota history.


Yeah i think he and loda has a superficial but good relationship. Idk if that makes sense but you get the point. They are careful with how they talk to each other due to history but they are sort good to each.


Well, ofc EE is salty a bit, but shit happens. He won way more than Alliance did this time, so i guess, 1-1. But in general, players are okay with each other.


EE is always salty about something. Then he goes on twitter to rant about crap that doesn't really matter lol
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
July 21 2014 02:35 GMT
#6415
On July 21 2014 11:31 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:29 Canucklehead wrote:
It's ok guys, if korea picks up dota then we'll be saved from an all chinese TI 5 and can have a chinese vs korea finals instead.

Lol no it will be KOREAN vs KOREAN finals.

Historically they have proven to beat everyone massively in a competitive scene !


Indeed, but I'm giving the Chinese a 1 year grace before korea dominates so still have one chinese team in finals. TI 6 though would be all koreans. Of course I don't know how serious koreans will get about dota though with lol dominating there so hard.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 21 2014 02:35 GMT
#6416
On July 21 2014 11:32 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:27 CherryNubCakes wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:09 opterown wrote:
what makes people rate sylar so highly? o.O

For me, his Morphling.

hao and burning also play impeccable morphs too though

Judging players are always hard but you have to look at map movement, decision making, the balance of aggressiveness vs passiveness, item decisions etc. Hao has done some pretty bad shit this TI.
WriterXiao8~~
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 02:39:55
July 21 2014 02:36 GMT
#6417
On July 21 2014 11:32 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:27 CherryNubCakes wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:09 opterown wrote:
what makes people rate sylar so highly? o.O

For me, his Morphling.

hao and burning also play impeccable morphs too though


Comparing Hao and Sylar is like comparing XBOCT and Lod[A] last season.
Explosive "go hard or go home" against reliable weapon that will work everytime you need it.

Doesn't mean though, that roles can't be changed at some point.

On July 21 2014 11:38 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:35 Kipsate wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:32 opterown wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:27 CherryNubCakes wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:09 opterown wrote:
what makes people rate sylar so highly? o.O

For me, his Morphling.

hao and burning also play impeccable morphs too though

Judging players are always hard but you have to look at map movement, decision making, the balance of aggressiveness vs passiveness, item decisions etc. Hao has done some pretty bad shit this TI.

I think burning should be the most stable of out of all them. Just basing around his map movements. He barely gets ganked but again it could be the work of supports or the offlane/mid trying to grab attention of the other team why he is not ganked often.


Arguably AAA just lost DK a grandfinals tonight, so already not the best tournament in his glorious career. Will be truly an era though if he retires finally.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
July 21 2014 02:38 GMT
#6418
On July 21 2014 11:35 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:32 opterown wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:27 CherryNubCakes wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:09 opterown wrote:
what makes people rate sylar so highly? o.O

For me, his Morphling.

hao and burning also play impeccable morphs too though

Judging players are always hard but you have to look at map movement, decision making, the balance of aggressiveness vs passiveness, item decisions etc. Hao has done some pretty bad shit this TI.

I think burning should be the most stable of out of all them. Just basing around his map movements. He barely gets ganked but again it could be the work of supports or the offlane/mid trying to grab attention of the other team why he is not ganked often.
this is a quote
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 21 2014 02:38 GMT
#6419
On July 21 2014 11:35 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:32 opterown wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:27 CherryNubCakes wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:09 opterown wrote:
what makes people rate sylar so highly? o.O

For me, his Morphling.

hao and burning also play impeccable morphs too though

Judging players are always hard but you have to look at map movement, decision making, the balance of aggressiveness vs passiveness, item decisions etc. Hao has done some pretty bad shit this TI.

eh i don't think non-pros are really informed enough to judge all but the most glaring of errors for those metrics.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
July 21 2014 02:39 GMT
#6420
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/22jzws/we_are_now_officially_100_days_from_the/cgnn3uu
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