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Please stop the caster bashing. You can disagree with them and post about it but posts that only serve to bash casters senselessly will be actioned.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2014 01:13 GMT
#6021
On July 21 2014 10:11 kirsed wrote:
The reason that there is a lack of hype for grand finals from the west is literally that Na'vi isn't there and casuals don't have anyone to watch.

LoL, dota hipster sighted. "Na'Vi is to main stream for me. Casuals cheer for them and EG. True dota fans love china."
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 21 2014 01:13 GMT
#6022
On July 21 2014 10:12 i99 wrote:
worst ti ever.. format is so garbage. games are so boring same heroes every game

what

almost the entire hero pool has been used over the course of the tournament.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Zizy
Profile Joined August 2012
Croatia684 Posts
July 21 2014 01:13 GMT
#6023
On July 21 2014 10:12 i99 wrote:
worst ti ever.. format is so garbage. games are so boring same heroes every game


Those heroes were given to teams by Icefrog and his patches. Don't blame it on teams if they are using the best heroes to win.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
July 21 2014 01:13 GMT
#6024
On July 21 2014 10:10 spacer wrote:
What did ROTK say/do?


He said Burning came to him after DK lost Game 1 to LGD and told RotK to win for him.

Then RotK said Burning is the #1 player in China and it's extremely unfair for Burning to maybe retire without a championship but it is what it is.
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
July 21 2014 01:13 GMT
#6025
On July 21 2014 10:12 i99 wrote:
same heroes every game

thats a little unfair...
:)
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
July 21 2014 01:13 GMT
#6026
Literally no interest in either team in the finals sad times.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
July 21 2014 01:13 GMT
#6027
On July 21 2014 10:10 spacer wrote:
What did ROTK say/do?


Paraphrasing, Kaci asked him what it was like to knock DK out as he was on DK at TI3 with Burning.
rotk said that he had no choice as the format of the bracket made it have to happen. He then told a story about how Burning went to him the night before when DK was down 0-1 to LGD and Burning told him he has to win TI4 if he doesn't make it and then said Burning is still someone he has incredible respect for.
GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
July 21 2014 01:13 GMT
#6028
Please nerf pushing strats, not necessarily nerfing pushing heroes but something like when they nerfed split push by changing the buyback.
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
July 21 2014 01:13 GMT
#6029
C'mon haters!
Bring it on more!
MORE SALT! MORE HATE
FUCKING AWESOME !!!

BEST possible result other than DK in the Finals.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 21 2014 01:13 GMT
#6030
[image loading]

WP VG..
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
soulzz
Profile Joined September 2010
39 Posts
July 21 2014 01:13 GMT
#6031
2 boring teams on the finals gg.
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 01:14:37
July 21 2014 01:13 GMT
#6032
On July 21 2014 10:10 shizaep wrote:
well thats fucking awful


finals are anticlimactic now, two chinese teams, neither of which are fan favorites exactly

i highly doubt that vici will win a bo5 doing the same shit that they've been doing (which is literally only one fucking thing) I really feel like EG should have beat that. It's definitely hard to draft against, I'll agree

I was really hoping newbee won't win this TI. xiao8 disbanded lgd just to get in on some of this easy ti money. and not to mention the whole controversy with them boycotting DK. Literally the WORST team, even worse than iG.

Like I said before, ESPN will never take a risk of airing any esports again because all the "teens" that would be watching the final anyway, like some other poster stated, will be watching from their computers. A lot of the likeable teams with a storyline are out

Really sad about EG being out. Wish Alliance would have been in as well to add some chance of a western team in the final
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2014 01:13 GMT
#6033
On July 21 2014 10:11 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 10:10 lolnoty wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:06 oniman999 wrote:
Anyone else think smoke could use a nerf? The finals is two hyper aggressive, early game, smoke heavy teams. They draft push, use smoke to get a guaranteed kill or two, and then have the space for ez towers.

I've hated the smoke/sentry changes forever. So did Alliance, and I remember an interview where they said they were struggling because control of map vision didn't pay off as much anymore because you could just yolo smoke past good ward control.

Yeah smoke change sucks . It's unstoppable. Sure it allows comebacks which is great for watching but i think it's stupid.

I just want there to be fewer of them in the early game. The supply does not run out fast enough so supports can just yolo past wards.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34498 Posts
July 21 2014 01:13 GMT
#6034
NICE NICE NICE NICE NICE
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Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
July 21 2014 01:14 GMT
#6035
On July 21 2014 10:10 shizaep wrote:
well thats fucking awful


finals are anticlimactic now, two chinese teams, neither of which are fan favorites exactly

i highly doubt that vici will win a bo5 doing the same shit that they've been doing (which is literally only one fucking thing) I really feel like EG should have beat that. It's definitely hard to draft against, I'll agree

I was really hoping newbee won't win this TI. xiao8 disbanded lgd just to get in on some of this easy ti money. and not to mention the whole controversy with them boycotting DK. Literally the WORST team, even worse than iG.


What an obnoxious post. Also you are underestimating the fanbase rOtk has.
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
Clockwork757
Profile Joined May 2014
258 Posts
July 21 2014 01:14 GMT
#6036
ROTK is my new favorite.

~meh~
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 21 2014 01:14 GMT
#6037
based Rotk
WriterXiao8~~
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 21 2014 01:14 GMT
#6038
These finals should be really good if both teams play up to their potential!

Also, the tears in this thread are delicious. Mmmmmm
you gotta dance
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
July 21 2014 01:14 GMT
#6039
fenrir is really a robot
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32744 Posts
July 21 2014 01:14 GMT
#6040
All that hype from VG.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
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