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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:54 Kuroeeah wrote: level one roshan being an all in is almost indisputable imo. that draft was fine through all stages of the game for newbee, they would have needed to lose 2-3 at rosh to titan to lose | ||
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:55 teapoted wrote: It's not like NB would have lost 5 heroes. In fact they probably wouldn't have lost any. Worst case scenario, you have some shit skills in lane level 1. Yep, I'm just saying. Even in the worst possible outcome, it's not an ez gg. | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:54 Kuroeeah wrote: level one roshan being an all in is almost indisputable imo. I'm not so sure. Alliance's level 1 rosh before this left them with a slight gold/xp adv. even after teamwiping in the pit. They lost because their lanes were complete garbage after the rosh. In this case Newbee had the lanes after the rosh, if they wipe in the pit with no rosh kill, it would probably be a fairly even trade of heroes and then into good lanes. | ||
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:55 ch33psh33p wrote: No chance titan could contest level 1 rosh. They had a fucking AA. Chilling touch on 5 heroes. You'd need a 5 man burrow into 5 man earth split for NB to lose. This must be a big joke right? You do rosh halfway and you have 1 guy still tanking roshan and another guy healing up, not to mention that you are down on stat items for a couple of heroes. It's an instant team fight loss once it's scouted. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:56 lolnoty wrote: I'm not so sure. Alliance's level 1 rosh before this left them with a slight gold/xp adv. even after teamwiping in the pit. They lost because their lanes were complete garbage after the rosh. In this case Newbee had the lanes after the rosh, if they wipe in the pit with no rosh kill, it would probably be a fairly even trade of heroes and then into good lanes. Because they actually managed to get Rosh. It wasn't a complete failure. If they didn't, it would be over. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:56 giftdgecko wrote: exactly, they invested how much gold into it? regen, items, skills are all lvl'd a certain way for it and if it fails you are generally starting from behind None of the skills they leveled were ones they wouldn't level anyway though. NB would have had to lose their whole team to come out behind if Titan went to fight. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:56 giftdgecko wrote: exactly, they invested how much gold into it? regen, items, skills are all lvl'd a certain way for it and if it fails you are generally starting from behind In that regard its a lot less chessy than most things since everybody on the team more or less got what they would have in lane and didn't blow tps/extra regen | ||
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Weasel-
Canada1556 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:54 Hassybaby wrote: They had the better lvl team fight as well. If they got spotted, they would've won the fight If the enemy team runs in when all your heroes are half hp from being hit by rosh I don't think you win the fight | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:56 Procake wrote: Sheever's favourite piece of analysis is saying a team should "play their own game" for every single game. I love consistency, too.Glad to meet another Sheever fan  | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:57 Oktyabr wrote: This must be a big joke right? You do rosh halfway and you have 1 guy still tanking roshan and another guy healing up, not to mention that you are down on stat items for a couple of heroes. It's an instant team fight loss once it's scouted. They had a ward setup did they not? No way they don't see Titan coming | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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wairai
Malaysia1000 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:56 ch33psh33p wrote: Ugh was hoping I'd get a Whaleblade. Just got stache + arcana and some random value items intsead. Damn you rich kids.  | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:55 SKC wrote: You don't need the better lvl 1 fight to stop a rosh attempt. Well, you're going to need some way to scout into the pit. Then what? You run up with leshrac and hope for a 5 man earth split? Whoever goes up close is going to lifted by rubick and bursted down in half a second. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:55 SKC wrote: You don't need the better lvl 1 fight to stop a rosh attempt. You don't but if they have the better level 1 fight and AREN'T doing Rosh, you could get forced into a bad fight checking. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:58 cecek wrote: I think Na'Vi on paper but I don't trust Na'Vi's drafts to be consistently functional at the moment.Newbee or Na'Vi? I think Na'Vi, they beat them in groupstage and they're a bo3 team, they usually perform in playoffs. But I'm a Na'Vi fanboy so I can't tell if I'm just biased towards them. Any thoughts? | ||
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:58 Weasel- wrote: If the enemy team runs in when all your heroes are half hp from being hit by rosh I don't think you win the fight Only 1 hero was tanking rosh at a time + treants. | ||
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