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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:45 klopetra wrote: Wow that were the first really interesting stats from statman bruno...apart from the no-legs statistic obviously! what'd he say? I needed to get myself something to eat | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:45 Oboeman wrote: yeah this game was a lot of fun for me, as a complete newbie. Then I read the thread, where everyone who understands the game was posting about how it was actually a terrible throw, not an amazing comeback. Well, when a team comes back from a disadvantage, even a very minor one, it's always a terrible throw when you read this forum, so don't read too much into it. | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13069 Posts
What did i miss ??! | ||
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Vixeness87
United States170 Posts
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:46 Azarkon wrote: Comebacks only happen in MOBA games when the enemy makes a mistake. That's just the way it is due to the level / farm mechanic. Same for sc2, a mistake might be not foreseeing the way the opponent attempts to comeback | ||
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Obelisco
Peru1962 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:46 Azarkon wrote: Comebacks only happen in MOBA games when the enemy makes a mistake. That's just the way it is due to the level / farm mechanic. shouldnt comebacks only happen if the opponent makes a mistake in any game? | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:45 Oboeman wrote: yeah this game was a lot of fun for me, as a complete newbie. Then I read the thread, where everyone who understands the game was posting about how it was actually a terrible throw, not an amazing comeback. it was still amazing play for them not making any misstakes and exploiting the opponents | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:45 Oboeman wrote: yeah this game was a lot of fun for me, as a complete newbie. Then I read the thread, where everyone who understands the game was posting about how it was actually a terrible throw, not an amazing comeback. Assuming similar draft where both teams have equally good late game, that is just the way it is. Barring terrible mistakes, the teams with early lead get early towers - more farms. There would be games where it seems like teams come back from behind, but in actual fact, their draft just became good in the mid-late game as they have more heroes that are efficient with items. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34501 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:48 Shikyo wrote: what'd he say? I needed to get myself something to eat Yesterday some team with morphling + veno + enigma + lina and something won and bruno said that it was because they had no legs (lina is floating so she doesn't count). | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:48 Obelisco wrote: shouldnt comebacks only happen if the opponent makes a mistake in any game? In dota it is more related to the picks/line up. | ||
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TR
2320 Posts
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Poorlilrich
Australia262 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:48 Obelisco wrote: shouldnt comebacks only happen if the opponent makes a mistake in any game? By that logic, how does one get ahead in the first place if not by the enemy making mistakes? It depends what you call a "mistake" versus just playing great. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:49 Firebolt145 wrote: Yesterday some team with morphling + veno + enigma + lina and something won and bruno said that it was because they had no legs (lina is floating so she doesn't count). Right but just now not yesterday, I didn't need to eat yesterday at that time | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:48 Obelisco wrote: shouldnt comebacks only happen if the opponent makes a mistake in any game? Yeah, but in Dota / LoL it's worse because the advantage you gain from taking an early lead is not easily removed by the opponent via risks. In SC 2, for example, when you're behind you're able to go for an all-in, double expand, do an off timing attack, etc. to try to get back in the game. In Dota / LoL your only option is to smoke gank. Smoke ganking doesn't work against top teams these days. There's no big 'take a risk' mechanic in Dota / LoL that allows you to gain a huge advantage when not punished. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:48 Obelisco wrote: shouldnt comebacks only happen if the opponent makes a mistake in any game? Not in any game, games decided by a huge randomness factor don't require enemy to make a mistake. For example when throwing dice  | ||
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cchriss
United States912 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:48 Shikyo wrote: what'd he say? I needed to get myself something to eat BM wins 58% against Enigma. VS wins 55% against Enigma. When both BM and VS face Enigma together, they lose 68% of the time. | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:50 Shikyo wrote: Right but just now not yesterday, I didn't need to eat yesterday at that time Team with BM > Team with Enigma Vs > Enigma But BM + VS < Enigma | ||
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[17]Purple
United Kingdom3489 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:48 Obelisco wrote: shouldnt comebacks only happen if the opponent makes a mistake in any game? some line-ups are more powerful early than late and a large discrepancy between the teams composition could make a team with an early lead lose to a more late game oriented team. | ||
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Dankleteer
United States1430 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34501 Posts
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