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frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
August 27 2012 08:12 GMT
#2321
where do I find VODs? Apologies if this has been asked before. the dota2 youtube channel used for TI1 is barely updated
<3 DongRaeGu <3
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 15:59:22
August 27 2012 08:17 GMT
#2322
Team A Bans
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Team A Picks
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WriterXiao8~~
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 27 2012 08:18 GMT
#2323
On August 27 2012 15:20 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 14:28 figq wrote:
Navi and "Navi of the East"
dead last in both groups

fun play no win
morph and lycan all day long..


luna and wisp tiny beg to differ

oh the wisp plays were amazing indeed
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
August 27 2012 08:22 GMT
#2324
Meh, I'd like to follow this, but the groupstage with everyone advancing kinda feels oversized. Gonna watch highlights and tune in for the knockout stages.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 27 2012 08:27 GMT
#2325
On August 27 2012 17:17 Kipsate wrote:
Also what I have noticed(and everyone has noticed)

here is a protip:

Ban Morphling or pick him.

the prevalence of morphling in first three picks makes me think that doom is a plausible option. get to pick him in last two against morph, and have two bans to help set him up. doom just shutting down morphlings ability to be so slippery let's you gank and shut him down with ease, though you'd likely need doom to grab kobold aura and go roam-ganking with Earthshaker or venomancer. and that means doom as a 4th position.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
August 27 2012 08:42 GMT
#2326
On August 27 2012 17:17 Kipsate wrote:
Also what I have noticed(and everyone has noticed)

here is a protip:

Ban Morphling or pick him.


I would like to add rubick to this statement
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
August 27 2012 08:44 GMT
#2327
Chinese teams too good.
Dear Sixsmith...
drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
August 27 2012 08:51 GMT
#2328
On August 27 2012 17:42 Canas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 17:17 Kipsate wrote:
Also what I have noticed(and everyone has noticed)

here is a protip:

Ban Morphling or pick him.


I would like to add rubick to this statement


According to http://dota-academy.com/tournament/58/

only 62% winrate for morph.
...
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 27 2012 09:02 GMT
#2329
On August 27 2012 15:33 shostakovich wrote:
Complete statistics of Day 1

Wow, my fingers hurt.

Do you manually enter the data ? :O
Good job in any case, appreciated :-)
shostakovich
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Brazil1429 Posts
August 27 2012 09:04 GMT
#2330
On August 27 2012 17:17 Kipsate wrote:
Also what I have noticed(and everyone has noticed)

here is a protip:

Ban Morphling or pick him.

A small fix to your statement: Ban Morphling, or pick and play him as a solo mid. I can't give you the exact number, but his winrate in games he went to solo mid are much higher than games he went to other lanes.
shostakovich
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Brazil1429 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 09:04:52
August 27 2012 09:04 GMT
#2331
On August 27 2012 18:02 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 15:33 shostakovich wrote:
Complete statistics of Day 1

Wow, my fingers hurt.

Do you manually enter the data ? :O
Good job in any case, appreciated :-)

Yes, but only for now. Valve will give us an API (I hope).
shostakovich
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Brazil1429 Posts
August 27 2012 09:07 GMT
#2332
On August 27 2012 16:36 Bswhunter wrote:
Hey I got two questions
Is it possible to easily access replays you have already downloaded, and is it possible to run dota w/o an internet connection? (To watch replays of course!)

Plce your replays in the dota folder, then you just need to type "playdemo *filename*" and the replay will run. For example, playdemo 85729759.

I'm not sure if you can run it offline.
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 27 2012 09:07 GMT
#2333
On August 27 2012 16:04 superstartran wrote:
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On August 27 2012 15:03 Azarkon wrote:
They are completely capable of playing a hell of a lot better than they did today.

Everyone is able to see that this is not the Na'Vi that we're used to playing today. The Na'Vi we're used to doesn't make the sorts of amateur mistakes this team called Na'Vi has been making all day long.

This is not just me hyping up Na'Vi. People who have followed Na'Vi before know this.

The question is whether Na'Vi is able to achieve that form again and within the span of a week.

Because 3-29 vs. iG sure as heck isn't the best they're able to do. Shit, they did better than that in Dota 1 with 1-2 months of practice.



They are having issues but Na'vi clearly is just way below iG on an individual skill level. You don't get 3-29'd unless you're just completely outclassed or are seriously jacking around (which I highly doubt they were). Dendi for instance got completely crapped on mid by Ferrari in one of the games.


I said it before and I'll say it again. Na'vi is the best team from the EU/NA scene, but they are not by far the best team. They were completely overrated, and many teams from the EU/NA scene are very close in terms of overall level of play. coL proved this that despite being on a lower level of individual skill, they are much better at overall strategy and teamwork coming into the International.


I think they are slightly outclassed skill wise, but I think the main problem is that since the departure of artstyle/winning a shit ton of money and everyone telling them they are the greatest they stopped working as hard and wanting it as bad which was quite evident multiple times in the past year. They are good enough to compete with top teams, they just aren't good enough to "turn it on" just when they need it while coasting most of the time.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 27 2012 09:09 GMT
#2334
On August 27 2012 14:17 GogoKodo wrote:
With the whole bo2 thing we could possibly be seeing some ties and thus some tiebreaker matches. There doesn't seem to be much detail on exactly what format the tiebreakers will be though. This is all I could find on dota2.com
"If tiebreaker games are necessary, they will be played after all other Prelim games are completed."


There are 2 completely free days not to mention most of tuesday that are open for more tiebreaker games.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 27 2012 09:12 GMT
#2335
On August 27 2012 18:04 shostakovich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 18:02 MrCon wrote:
On August 27 2012 15:33 shostakovich wrote:
Complete statistics of Day 1

Wow, my fingers hurt.

Do you manually enter the data ? :O
Good job in any case, appreciated :-)

Yes, but only for now. Valve will give us an API (I hope).

Ho wow, I thought an API already existed.
Well, I have found a even bigger respect for your site !
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 27 2012 09:13 GMT
#2336
Na`vi used to run on superior team fight for a while, but then the gaps in the early game started getting bigger and bigger and now the competition is higher than ever. Not sure what they need to do or what they CAN do to get things back together.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 27 2012 09:18 GMT
#2337
Not only the competition got better, but na vi play is far from flawless like it was before. Not sure is the 2 are related, but some of their plays yesterday (xbox storm spirit ><) were sad.
shostakovich
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Brazil1429 Posts
August 27 2012 09:21 GMT
#2338
On August 27 2012 18:12 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 18:04 shostakovich wrote:
On August 27 2012 18:02 MrCon wrote:
On August 27 2012 15:33 shostakovich wrote:
Complete statistics of Day 1

Wow, my fingers hurt.

Do you manually enter the data ? :O
Good job in any case, appreciated :-)

Yes, but only for now. Valve will give us an API (I hope).

Ho wow, I thought an API already existed.
Well, I have found a even bigger respect for your site !

It technically does, but only for matchmaking, and not for the private, competitive matches.

And still, the API doesn't give you lanings, for example. I want something that gives me lanes and heatmaps for each game, and I have good hopes that they'll deliver.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 09:22:17
August 27 2012 09:21 GMT
#2339
The Chinese teams sure mean business this year.

On August 27 2012 15:33 shostakovich wrote:
Complete statistics of Day 1

Wow, my fingers hurt.

Thanks. This is very informative.
Brood War loyalist
shostakovich
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Brazil1429 Posts
August 27 2012 09:23 GMT
#2340
On August 27 2012 18:13 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Na`vi used to run on superior team fight for a while, but then the gaps in the early game started getting bigger and bigger and now the competition is higher than ever. Not sure what they need to do or what they CAN do to get things back together.

I think there are three factors right now playing against Na'Vi: 1) they're out of shape. Maybe burned? 2) Teams seems to have them figured out; 3) They didn't figured out the other teams.

But still, they played against super strong teams. We'll see if their performance will change in Day 2.
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