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On November 29 2012 04:10 Yoshi- wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 04:08 Kupon3ss wrote:
Group A has 1 good team and 3 teams that are about as good as a random pubstack in SEA
Group B has 2 good teams and 2 "good teams by western standards" Not even the full navi could right now compete with the good teams, and half navi + half empire + guy who doesn't even play competitively certainly doesn't compare. And mouz is just a random german pubstack
iG also has "guy who doesn't even play competitively", the problem is that there's 3 tier of teams
good
"good by western standards"
joke
and all the "good by western standards" tier teams are in one group along with 2/3 good teams, wheras one joke team is surely to make it out of the group stages
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On November 29 2012 04:16 Kupon3ss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 04:10 Yoshi- wrote:On November 29 2012 04:08 Kupon3ss wrote:
Group A has 1 good team and 3 teams that are about as good as a random pubstack in SEA
Group B has 2 good teams and 2 "good teams by western standards" Not even the full navi could right now compete with the good teams, and half navi + half empire + guy who doesn't even play competitively certainly doesn't compare. And mouz is just a random german pubstack iG also has "guy who doesn't even play competitively", the problem is that there's 3 tier of teams good "good by western standards" joke and all the "good by western standards" tier teams are in one group along with 2/3 good teams, wheras one joke team is surely to make it out of the group stages
Considering that the "joke" teams most probably actually prepared for the event, i would value them higher than teams that most probably will play their first match as a team during the groupstage.
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Rooting for mongolia 
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On November 29 2012 04:19 Yoshi- wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 04:16 Kupon3ss wrote:On November 29 2012 04:10 Yoshi- wrote:On November 29 2012 04:08 Kupon3ss wrote:
Group A has 1 good team and 3 teams that are about as good as a random pubstack in SEA
Group B has 2 good teams and 2 "good teams by western standards" Not even the full navi could right now compete with the good teams, and half navi + half empire + guy who doesn't even play competitively certainly doesn't compare. And mouz is just a random german pubstack iG also has "guy who doesn't even play competitively", the problem is that there's 3 tier of teams good "good by western standards" joke and all the "good by western standards" tier teams are in one group along with 2/3 good teams, wheras one joke team is surely to make it out of the group stages Considering that the "joke" teams most probably actually prepared for the event, i would value them higher than teams that most probably will play their first match as a team during the groupstage.
one of the joke teams wasn't even sure what its roster was yesterday
another one of the joke teams queues at "high" as a stack
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On November 29 2012 04:21 Kupon3ss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 04:19 Yoshi- wrote:On November 29 2012 04:16 Kupon3ss wrote:On November 29 2012 04:10 Yoshi- wrote:On November 29 2012 04:08 Kupon3ss wrote:
Group A has 1 good team and 3 teams that are about as good as a random pubstack in SEA
Group B has 2 good teams and 2 "good teams by western standards" Not even the full navi could right now compete with the good teams, and half navi + half empire + guy who doesn't even play competitively certainly doesn't compare. And mouz is just a random german pubstack iG also has "guy who doesn't even play competitively", the problem is that there's 3 tier of teams good "good by western standards" joke and all the "good by western standards" tier teams are in one group along with 2/3 good teams, wheras one joke team is surely to make it out of the group stages Considering that the "joke" teams most probably actually prepared for the event, i would value them higher than teams that most probably will play their first match as a team during the groupstage. one of the joke teams wasn't even sure what its roster was yesterday
Nor was mouz roster sure
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The point is there's a difference between "good by western standards" and "teams that might lose in the finals of the TL community league" in terms of level of jokes
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On November 29 2012 04:26 Kupon3ss wrote:
The point is there's a difference between "good by western standards" and "teams that might lose in the finals of the TL community league" in terms of level of jokes
And how is that mouz team not a joke?
Going 1-2 in an easy group at dreamhack, than replacing their main player with a scrub. Doesn't really support that they are good for western standards.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
in not sure what it is mongolia, joke teams are even jokier
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On November 29 2012 03:52 Implenia wrote:nvm I can't read. Also I really really reaaaaaaaaaaally hope that Doa actually knows something about Dota and we don't get a joke like Tasteless casting league for OGN. I checked his twitter and he hasn't posted a single thing about dota in the past 3 weeks. I'm not very happy but we will see.
It's very ironic because that's how Tasteless got his casting gig...let's hope DOA proves the presumptions wrong. I won't be judging him regardless as surely he is inserted to prevent Tobi from asphyxiating.
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On November 29 2012 05:16 hmsrenown wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 03:52 Implenia wrote:On November 29 2012 03:36 Kupon3ss wrote:
WCG #1.... random draw OP
nvm I can't read. Also I really really reaaaaaaaaaaally hope that Doa actually knows something about Dota and we don't get a joke like Tasteless casting league for OGN. I checked his twitter and he hasn't posted a single thing about dota in the past 3 weeks. I'm not very happy but we will see. It's very ironic because that's how Tasteless got his casting gig...let's hope DOA proves the presumptions wrong. I won't be judging him regardless as surely he is inserted to prevent Tobi from asphyxiating.
LD, Godz, Aysee, Lumnious, Triumph, Draskyl, Purge, etc.
I don't see the reason to bring him in if he has no clue about the game. The only reason I can see is his connections and that he can cast SC 2.Still I'm very sceptical. Not to mention that they forgot to invite v1lat. lol
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On November 29 2012 05:58 Dattish wrote:
prolly cheaper to fly DoA over :D
It's just so easy to think that DoA is a DotA person :D
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
On November 29 2012 05:22 Implenia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 05:16 hmsrenown wrote:On November 29 2012 03:52 Implenia wrote:On November 29 2012 03:36 Kupon3ss wrote:
WCG #1.... random draw OP
nvm I can't read. Also I really really reaaaaaaaaaaally hope that Doa actually knows something about Dota and we don't get a joke like Tasteless casting league for OGN. I checked his twitter and he hasn't posted a single thing about dota in the past 3 weeks. I'm not very happy but we will see. It's very ironic because that's how Tasteless got his casting gig...let's hope DOA proves the presumptions wrong. I won't be judging him regardless as surely he is inserted to prevent Tobi from asphyxiating. LD, Godz, Aysee, Lumnious, Triumph, Draskyl, Purge, etc. I don't see the reason to bring him in if he has no clue about the game. The only reason I can see is his connections and that he can cast SC 2.Still I'm very sceptical. Not to mention that they forgot to invite v1lat. lol Yeah, but most of the people they're bringing are in Korea, because it's significantly cheaper. To add to that they might also have contacts in Korea and just said 'we need English casters'. And they said "Alright, here's Khaldor, DOA, etc...". Because if someone who knew the scene was making the decisions, they'd get GoDz. Hell, they could even fly over that Vietnamese caster, he's amazing.
I just hope that if he is casting Dota he has at least done his homework and doesn't start using LoL terms. If he's not that educated on the scene or in-depth strategy, doesn't really bother me.
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well... you don't need much game knowledge to be brought up to par with half of the current roster of dota casters.
some of them will admit it too, like 2gd or ayesee(?). i say judge him not for his lack of dota knowledge but for his ability as a caster
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
No, but you need to know ability names at least. And if you don't play/cast then that's not going to end pretty.
But hell, Tobi is put in the same position doing WC3 (1v1) commentary. But if he's teamed up with Khaldor for that it'll be fine.
Then the question is also who's this 'Brendan/Bendan' guy.
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Why is the event not in the TL calender? And why the SC2 casters like Khaldor? Sorry but when I see high level play I want to hear two top casters stroking their genitals in excitement instead of one caster not truly understanding what he saw. I want to see predictions based on experience.
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Well it is in the calendar now. Khaldor is not casting Dota 2 but apparently Doa who is also casting LoL for OGN will cast dota 2. If he is going to say champions I'm not sure how I will react.
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3030 Posts
I think you guys are smoking things... it was always in calendar ! =x
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Canada2068 Posts
On November 29 2012 09:53 blahz0r wrote:
I think you guys are smoking things... it was always in calendar ! =x
blahz0r could you also change the thread title to WCG World Finals Dota 2 or something else cool, so lots of people will check this thread?
edit: much appreciated =x
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United States11390 Posts
I think you guys are smoking things... it was always named that ! =x
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