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HolydaKing
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Kaipi/Nth vs Na'Vi VP vs Fnatic Not a bad line-up. Still hoping that this isn't all the production we're getting, but It wouldn't surprise me. Will be interesting to see if CS:GO is equally bad, considering they have Redeye and Joe Miller don't they? So they have to be in the studios surely. | ||
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2/b/364306811 I highly doubt they will put ReDeYe and Miller casting it from their home. | ||
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renfree
4485 Posts
Edit: wow, half of the games is not listed under EMS tab ingame, glad i didn't buy a ticket. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Why can't we have all matches from quarters (the ones with pro teams) broadcast on stream? They're bo1's, yet we need to have 4 separate streams to cover them. And then they don't even get admins to go into the matches so some of these games weren't on dotaTV, not just without commentary, but they aren't even available as a replay. You have a fucking 'official broadcasting partner' who's streaming games from their other league at the same time. Are we not supposed to be watching these cups? Are we only supposed to be watching the final? Because except for round 1 there are a lot of interesting matches here, but it doesn't seem like anyone wants us to watch them. And most of the matches were covered by Epi, who I don't even think has a fully partnered account on Twitch, so there weren't even stream quality options. And seriously, get your ESL graphics guys to send some assets over to jD because god knows they won't sort the look of their stream out. It's a big and somewhat confusing format, this needs to be conveyed on the stream. The brackets need to be shown. A line of scrolling text is just not good enough. You know what happened when Na'Vi picked Axe in the EMS? Someone posted on reddit that Na'Vi just picked Axe in the Defense. Shit, get it together please. And I'd like an official word if this is what the whole EMS is like or if we'll ever get some actual ESL coverage except for the LAN events. ~ Sorry for the rant but I can't have been the only one who was expecting some well produced regular dota content in the west for the first time and this was a terrible first impression. | ||
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Vadrigar
Bulgaria2379 Posts
On February 12 2013 09:06 teapoted wrote: These cups just don't make any sense at all. You'd figure they made them so condensed with so many matches at the same time because they won't have studio time to cover them all or something? Well that's clearly not the case. Why can't we have all matches from quarters (the ones with pro teams) broadcast on stream? They're bo1's, yet we need to have 4 separate streams to cover them. And then they don't even get admins to go into the matches so some of these games weren't on dotaTV, not just without commentary, but they aren't even available as a replay. You have a fucking 'official broadcasting partner' who's streaming games from their other league at the same time. Are we not supposed to be watching these cups? Are we only supposed to be watching the final? Because except for round 1 there are a lot of interesting matches here, but it doesn't seem like anyone wants us to watch them. And most of the matches were covered by Epi, who I don't even think has a fully partnered account on Twitch, so there weren't even stream quality options. And seriously, get your ESL graphics guys to send some assets over to jD because god knows they won't sort the look of their stream out. It's a big and somewhat confusing format, this needs to be conveyed on the stream. The brackets need to be shown. A line of scrolling text is just not good enough. You know what happened when Na'Vi picked Axe in the EMS? Someone posted on reddit that Na'Vi just picked Axe in the Defense. Shit, get it together please. And I'd like an official word if this is what the whole EMS is like or if we'll ever get some actual ESL coverage except for the LAN events. ~ Sorry for the rant but I can't have been the only one who was expecting some well produced regular dota content in the west for the first time and this was a terrible first impression. Don't worry they have the second biggest dota prize money behind TI!!! It's fine, we through a bunch of money at dota and the people come watching. And some of the teams might actually get some of that money... a couple of years from now... may be... 2013 ESL still full of shit. | ||
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D.Devil
Germany227 Posts
We actually do have a very pretty graphics package and if you accidentally happened to tune into one of the foreign-language streams, you might have already seen it. I'll reach out to joinDOTA in order to work something out regarding graphics, but their crew naturally also has a say in this. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
But anyway I'll take that as confirmation that this is what we can expect in the future for the most part and guess that means ESL really still doesn't care about Dota. They were told to run a tournament and they just gave it over to jD, is essentially what it looks like to me. Unless I'm wrong and the CS:GO will be the same, but I have a feeling CS:GO won't be like this. You can't assure something if you're willing to let partners do whatever. I mean just the point that the MAIN stream that you have linked from your site for English coverage doesn't even have quality options. Come on. | ||
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D.Devil
Germany227 Posts
Please keep in mind that we hired our own full-time caster, Kawa, so we're cooperating with joinDOTA, not "outsourcing" our broadcasting to them. Anyway, Jarrett and me will talk things through with joinDOTA tomorrow and there will be several improvements. joinDOTA is also working hard and I don't doubt that our production value is going to become significantly better - if it doesn't, please don't stop complaining until it's finally good. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
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renfree
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G3CKO
Canada1430 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On February 12 2013 13:49 G3CKO wrote: So Axe does pretty well against Naix with the kill steal chop and call. Anyways where can I find the VODS, I missed the treant game. I wouldn't draw that same conclusion. Empire did not play particularly well that game which is why they lost. Navi didn't win because they countered naix with an axe pick. Their draft was pretty poor with zero disables. | ||
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cerb
Germany215 Posts
 I tuned in for a moment and was suprised that I found just two streams: One from TobiWan and one from Epi. Asked myself what about Kawa and an ESL stream? Maybe I was just too blind to find it, what could be possible as well. I really hope that the quality improves for the next cups. Money alone does not guarantee a good tournament. Keep in mind that it was the first cup for the EMS One in Dota 2 and they are gathering feedback now (even though the ESL should actually know how to run a good tournament/cup by now). | ||
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
ESL has their own studios so why not put Kawa broadcasting it like a regular Go4SC2 and having Epi and Tobi joining him for the cast? We don't know how good the production for CS will be but then again, I highly doubt they will put ReDeYe and Miller casting it from their own home with poor quality stream. Also a lot of people is complaining about not having all the matches available in DotATV. Let's see how the next cups will be.. | ||
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BallinWitStalin
1177 Posts
Chill out guys, there's a few mistakes (I really wanted to see my favorite team, nth, play!), but overall be stoked that there's another tournament! Anyhow, will there be VODs availalbe for the matches somewhere? I really, really, really would love to see the nth vs. Navi game but work is going to prevent me from being able to tune in. | ||
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
Yes. Tobi and Kawa will cast today's matches. I think they are bo3. Both Na'Vi vs Nth and VP vs Fnatic. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392116 We will not always be available to add events or have adequate knowledge of it, in submitting an event you, as a tournament organizer can make sure that your stream will always be listed at the sidebar and on the calendar with added information. | ||
miwi
Sweden647 Posts
On February 13 2013 00:30 Kipsate wrote: I have added this to the calendar, however please consider in the future to submit a calendar event here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392116 We will not always be available to add events or have adequate knowledge of it, in submitting an event you, as a tournament organizer can make sure that your stream will always be listed at the sidebar and on the calendar with added information. This has been on the calendar since yesterday silly you  | ||
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
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