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klo8
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria1960 Posts
April 12 2013 12:32 GMT
#1721
On April 12 2013 06:34 aintz wrote:
honestly useast is a good compromise. most eu players get like 150ms. uswest players would get 200+ on eu servers.

The problem is that US East works fine for folks in central Europe, but Russia is quite a lot farther away as well.
This post is clearly not a hurr, as you can see from the graph, the durr never intersects with the derp.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
April 12 2013 12:57 GMT
#1722
Tbh, with a pretty average internet speed (got 60mb/s here in Poland) You're getting AT MOST 90ms to USE, EUW is like 32ms, so there is no big difference between EU and USE servers.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18002 Posts
April 12 2013 13:56 GMT
#1723
On April 12 2013 21:57 739 wrote:
Tbh, with a pretty average internet speed (got 60mb/s here in Poland) You're getting AT MOST 90ms to USE, EUW is like 32ms, so there is no big difference between EU and USE servers.

Well, CIS players are another 1000 km (or more) to the east from you and I have no clue what kind of connections they have. For Fnatic and NTH I agree that this shouldn't matter much and their pings should be okayish to US East, but US teams will still have a slight advantage there and that is unfair in a European tournament. US tournaments on US servers, Euro tournaments on Euro servers should be the rule if there are region problems.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18002 Posts
April 12 2013 14:01 GMT
#1724
On April 12 2013 17:27 hfglgg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 11:46 crms wrote:
well based on the last TI and all recent games, what would make you think anyone but Na'Vi (and LGD.INT if you count them as EU) would do anything vs the chinese? when you watch g-league or g1 and then you watch d2l/the defense etc., it's like watching the NFL vs high school football. It's not much different than KR in SC2. We like to cheer for the western teams because we can relate and like the underdogs but if you watch the level of play objectively, the west by and large is still very far behind. Some games are cringe-worthy from a professional gaming point of view.


i think a lot of it comes down to preparation for certain matches. if you play 40 official "maps" a month (thats what fnatic played in february i think) you cant expect them to be as well prepared and focussed as the chinese who play maybe 10 "maps".
yeah IG is unbeatable and lgd.cn is probably better than anything in the west but with the right strategy and a bit of luck, the top 4 of the west (atm i'd say nth, fnatic, vp and liquid on a good day) could beat xiao8 and co.
DK isnt so far ahead anyway and the sea teams are not very consistent in their performance. (these ice3 plays...)

I'm not sure I agree. Unless you refer to preparing specifically for a matchup with one team (somewhat like GSL in SC2), those 40 maps that Fnatic plays in official games are a high level of practice. No, they aren't as free to experiment with new setups/heros as they might be in the ladder, but even without that explicit mandate for exploration of your playstyle, new things happen: just look at TL in the D2L finals tossing out an Ogre Magi which they said they had never trained with.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-13 08:37:58
April 13 2013 08:36 GMT
#1725
Lol, I just realized the LGD showmatch is overlapping with the finals (depending on how long it takes), wanted to check if anyone else noticed.
Once you Goblak...
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
April 13 2013 12:33 GMT
#1726
On April 13 2013 17:36 teapoted wrote:
Lol, I just realized the LGD showmatch is overlapping with the finals (depending on how long it takes), wanted to check if anyone else noticed. https://twitter.com/robertohlen/status/322780763466653696

And that WePlay tournament as well. And people give shit to Adebisi for saying our scene isn't a cluster fuck, lol.
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 13 2013 13:03 GMT
#1727
Weppas! 8)
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-13 13:11:19
April 13 2013 13:11 GMT
#1728
Gyrocopter 3-11, damn O_o
Dodge arrows
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
April 13 2013 13:11 GMT
#1729
Yeah... this A logo now that I look at it looks like a logo completely rushed.
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
April 13 2013 13:16 GMT
#1730
Not really liking the name Alliance.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
April 13 2013 13:19 GMT
#1731
On April 13 2013 22:11 duoform wrote:
Yeah... this A logo now that I look at it looks like a logo completely rushed.


It was cropped from the rest of their logo it seems. Not surprising considering that it was announced yesterday, but I'm curious to see what their "official" logo looks like.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 13 2013 13:19 GMT
#1732
On April 13 2013 22:16 Fwizzz wrote:
Not really liking the name Alliance.


Welcome to the club.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19349 Posts
April 13 2013 13:19 GMT
#1733
Alliance using [A] tag.
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 13 2013 13:20 GMT
#1734
Alliance is about as good as naming your team after a state of matter.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19349 Posts
April 13 2013 13:21 GMT
#1735
On April 13 2013 22:20 nihlon wrote:
Alliance is about as good as naming your team after a state of matter.

i see what you did there
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 13 2013 13:22 GMT
#1736
Admiral prophet. wooo
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
April 13 2013 13:23 GMT
#1737
On April 13 2013 22:19 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 22:11 duoform wrote:
Yeah... this A logo now that I look at it looks like a logo completely rushed.


It was cropped from the rest of their logo it seems. Not surprising considering that it was announced yesterday, but I'm curious to see what their "official" logo looks like.

Am I the only one who would like to see something like this?
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I mean, it's NaNiwa man.
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
April 13 2013 13:28 GMT
#1738
[image loading]The Alliance (Sentinel)

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[image loading]Fnatic.eu (Scourge)

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Poll: Who do you think will win?

Fnatic.eu (3)
 
60%

The Alliance (2)
 
40%

5 total votes

Your vote: Who do you think will win?

(Vote): The Alliance
(Vote): Fnatic.eu

"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
April 13 2013 13:30 GMT
#1739
It's not sentinel and scourge, it's radiant and dire.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 13 2013 13:31 GMT
#1740
On April 13 2013 22:30 BlitzerSC wrote:
It's not sentinel and scourge, it's radiant and dire.


Genius. :p
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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