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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
On April 12 2013 06:26 teapoted wrote: Draskyl just making things up? Empire GG's early when they think they can't win, happens several times. TPL doesn't do bo1. Well then let's say the Defense groups. You get the idea. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
But it's made to seem much worse when they waffle around for 15 minutes on the cast making it feel like the game never actually ended. | ||
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Wazabo
Italy124 Posts
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andyrau
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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givemefive
United States300 Posts
Brew still has the crit steroid and the evasion passive. With heart and AC he becomes a moderate DPS threat in the late game while being impossible to kill. He can blink on backlline supports and completely take them out before he even has to split. | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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Wazabo
Italy124 Posts
On April 12 2013 06:34 aintz wrote: honestly useast is a good compromise. most eu players get like 150ms. uswest players would get 200+ on eu servers. Don't really want to start a dabate on this, but russians aren't anywhere close to 150 ping on US. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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SFC
2053 Posts
On April 12 2013 06:35 givemefive wrote: I don't like how Draskyll characterizes brew as peaking at 16 because he makes it seem like brew is not much of a threat after that. Brew still has the crit steroid and the evasion passive. With heart and AC he becomes a moderate DPS threat in the late game while being impossible to kill. He can blink on backlline supports and completely take them out before he even has to split. Well Brew does peak at 16, though I agree that Draskyll was laying it on a bit thick. Same for when he was saying Dignitas had no lategame, when he said that, Luna was catching up on farm and would only snowball from there. I don't know if he was having cast(He was casting quite a bit I think so he might have just be tired), or just trying to hype the game more by making it seem like Empire had more of a chance than they did, | ||
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garlicface
Canada4196 Posts
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On April 12 2013 06:43 garlicface wrote: This interview is cracking me up. GD Studio best studio. | ||
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renfree
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
 Every recent post of yours seems to be about this :DYou do have a point though. It should be possible to exploit such greedy lineups. Empire lacked a way to quickly and reliably take out a single target though - that and they simply didn't play very well. | ||
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renfree
4485 Posts
On April 12 2013 11:00 AwfuL_ wrote: You're on such a crusade renfree Every recent post of yours seems to be about this :DYou do have a point though. It should be possible to exploit such greedy lineups. Empire lacked a way to quickly and reliably take out a single target though - that and they simply didn't play very well. No, i just don't see such lineups possible against best Asian teams, you would get destroyed in first 10 mins. And if several Euro teams failed to do it (if anything, Dignitas's draft is very predictable, so you should know what to do against it), thats a wake up call for an entire western scene. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13069 Posts
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
On April 12 2013 11:46 crms wrote: well based on the last TI and all recent games, what would make you think anyone but Na'Vi (and LGD.INT if you count them as EU) would do anything vs the chinese? when you watch g-league or g1 and then you watch d2l/the defense etc., it's like watching the NFL vs high school football. It's not much different than KR in SC2. We like to cheer for the western teams because we can relate and like the underdogs but if you watch the level of play objectively, the west by and large is still very far behind. Some games are cringe-worthy from a professional gaming point of view. i think a lot of it comes down to preparation for certain matches. if you play 40 official "maps" a month (thats what fnatic played in february i think) you cant expect them to be as well prepared and focussed as the chinese who play maybe 10 "maps". yeah IG is unbeatable and lgd.cn is probably better than anything in the west but with the right strategy and a bit of luck, the top 4 of the west (atm i'd say nth, fnatic, vp and liquid on a good day) could beat xiao8 and co. DK isnt so far ahead anyway and the sea teams are not very consistent in their performance. (these ice3 plays...) | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On April 12 2013 11:25 renfree wrote: No, i just don't see such lineups possible against best Asian teams, you would get destroyed in first 10 mins. And if several Euro teams failed to do it (if anything, Dignitas's draft is very predictable, so you should know what to do against it), thats a wake up call for an entire western scene. There are actually two ways to beat what Dignitas is doing. Kill them early for their greed. Most western teams seem to be unable to do it reliably as it requires quite good execution. Or do what Liquid did in last game of D2L, just be more greedy. Frankly the draft out of Liquid in that game was in my opinion the most beautiful draft I have seen in DoTa2 ( I am new so probably there were better drafts ). And I do not mean the actual heroes, I mean the strategy behind that draft. It was such a nicely built trap/mindgame and Dignitas actually killed themselves by their greed and transparent tendencies already in a drafting phase. There are so many beautiful things about how Liquid went about that draft, TC should get a medal If he was drafting. | ||
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renfree
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