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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On May 10 2013 03:13 Dexington wrote: Well they never did a Wisp gank and didn't have a really good partner for him. Assuming DK was supposed to be the partner, why not pick Sven or Tiny, who do the job better? The wisp pick just didn't make any sense to me. You can't gank against a 5man lineup who just barrels down a lane. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On May 10 2013 03:12 SkelA wrote: CK would have offered much less.Wisp was really useless. They shoulda picked CK together or not picked it at all. Liquid's entire strategy was the problem, not who wisp was ganking with. Of course it's not like it was impossible to win, but if you need ganks and the enemy is fine with 5-manning, you're going to have a problem. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On May 10 2013 03:14 Dexington wrote: Which is why it didn't make sense. Why not put TA mid and DK lane with Wisp and KotL? DK mid was fine imo, the thing is that if they wanted to go for a farming hero to go for midas and couple with the wisp to guaratee safe farm a Sven or something makes more sense. You don't need another ganking hero if you are already forcing their team to 5man. I guess they may have overestimated Kotl's antipush, specially against a bat that was picking him off every time. They also had no reliable stuns to prevent bat from picking him off. | ||
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mrk1
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Tsutchie
Australia951 Posts
On May 10 2013 03:10 Numy wrote: West just has a whole bunch of teams that on any given day can beat each other. You can't invite them all though tl qualified for g1 smashing through the lower bracket right before invites came out really helped them with their spot. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
And either way, EG has always done well against Liquid in recent history. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
On May 10 2013 03:16 Emnjay808 wrote: The lost there was that Bulba didnt get wall. Not even level 1. I saw so many great vacuums then expected to see a big wall, but he never leveled it. Gotta get pass the 3/4/2/0 syndrome and just get a early wall vs push heavy compositions. Yes that was what I noticed as well. Outside of pickofs, the fights were really close and came down to which team had more overall damage. DS wall gives you the edge in damage. Maybe Bulba needs to adopt Bone7's skillbuild. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 10 2013 03:14 Dexington wrote: Which is why it didn't make sense. Why not put TA mid and DK lane with Wisp and KotL? You can't risk TA mid vs. the possible Bat mid. Consider the possible lane arrangements: Bat vs TA mid, BM vs DK safe - TA gets crushed, DK freefarms and BM stacks ancients/jungles Bat vs DK mid, BM vs TA safe - DK loses slightly, but stalemates with Bottle, TA freefarms and BM stacks ancients/jungles BM vs TA mid, Bat vs DK safe - BM loses slightly but stalemates with Bottle, DK freefarms and Bat jungles BM vs DK mid, Bat vs TA safe - BM and DK both stalemate, TA freefarms and Bat jungles The average outcome is better if you put TA safe lane, because the safe laner freefarms regardless, and Bat doesn't crush DK as hard if they put Bat mid. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
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andy186
Australia1058 Posts
On May 10 2013 03:22 teapoted wrote: Slightly off-topic but I just looked through the odds on dota2lounge for all the matches they have on the front-page. All of them were won by the favorite except for some EG matches. (and staff-cup but that doesn't count) im loving the eg bad rates atm gotta get on that a lot before it flips the other way | ||
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
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SilverStar
Sweden18511 Posts
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On May 10 2013 03:25 AwfuL_ wrote: I don't know why that would sound paradoxical, you bet for the team with the best odds not the best team. And EG has been underestimated for a bit too long so their odds are always very good.EG quickly became quite good, but IMO they're not quite on TL's level yet. They always do better against the US teams though, so if I was into betting, I probably would've even bet on EG. Yes I realize that sounds paradoxical. That's the thing with dota2lounge though, because the barrier to entry is so low compared to real money betting, people don't really think things through too much and the lines are always very good for betting on "underdogs". | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
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pyro19
6575 Posts
On May 10 2013 03:25 AwfuL_ wrote: EG quickly became quite good, but IMO they're not quite on TL's level yet. They always do better against the US teams though (for example, they've won the last 3 BO3's against Dignitas), so if I was into betting, I probably would've even bet on EG. Yes I realize that sounds paradoxical. Keep in mind Liquid have played their last 2 series without ixmike.. Just a draft Loss this tbh , not that big of a deal | ||
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eieio
United States14512 Posts
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